Will the election be close?

[OddBeMe]

They said the same in 2020. Biden ended with 8-10 milliom more votes and locked in the electoral pretty damn quick. And trump is doing a fraction of the work this year because he knows it's lost.

He's already prepping for "its rigged! Campaign" Coming to you wherever dumb people are.

Yes

No

[goaded]

He's telegraphing that he doesn't need people's votes, he's got a plan to "win" without them with the aid of seditionists in Congress. This might be it.

If your state's votes for president aren't certified by the December deadline and Speaker Johnson refuses to extend it, what will you do?

I hope the FBI is gathering evidence of a conspiracy to defraud the people of their vote as we speak. Then they might have time to put it before a grand jury and act before it's too late.

[Still-alive]

I heard there’s undercover agents within these maga groups so they likely already know about it all

[goaded]

@Still-alive Unfortunately, it's not low level idiots, it's more or less the same bunch already under indictment in Georgia under RICO laws. Oh, and the Speaker of the House. Somewhat harder to infiltrate.

[Still-alive]

I think we got this dude. i do appreciate the concern but we are not unprepared for this. i fully believe this. They caught us by surprise the first time they will not do it this time.

[lightbulb27]

It's a thrilla... thrilla night... I can scare you more than any Michael Jackson short film could ever dare try...

[Juxtapose]

Many, many votes that were duplicates have already been thrown out and other shenanigans are currently happening. I think if it wasn't for that, Trump would win in an utter landslide. 70% to 30%.

[OddBeMe]

Nope just duplicate ballots being mailed. Only one can be counted.
pbswisconsin.org/.../

[Juxtapose]

"Fulton County, Georgia, acknowledges, in a major Consent Decree, that 3,600 individual ballots were DUPLICATED (36 Batches). THAT’S A LOT OF CRIME."

- Trump

[OddBeMe]

Remember when you posted a fact check... boom
www.factcheck.org/.../

[goaded]

"Shadow of Ezra is a Telegram channel that posts news, videos and opinions on global events, especially related to the US, Israel and Russia. The channel claims to expose the hidden agendas and conflicts behind the headlines, and warns of impending wars and disasters."

Someone else posted something similar last time, but they'd moved house and the first ballot was invalidated when the second was sent out.

[Juxtapose]

Don't care about that biased website.

[goaded]

What biased website?

[OddBeMe]

@goaded probably factcheck. org that he himself posted a few weeks ago to prove a point.

[goaded]

I didn't post that link. It's probably right, though.

[Juxtapose]

I am more than willing to use even the most unreliable sources in the world against you if you yourself believe in them.

[goaded]

You're also happy to post nonsense even if you don't have good reason to believe it's true.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded nice projection.

[goaded]

That's your game. You know http://stopthesteal.org was registered by Roger Stone in 2016, just so that this shit could be used to steal elections.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded LOL people are allowed to question elections and the results should be vigorously reviewed, especially in places without voter I. D.

[Juxtapose]

The people trying to actually steal the election are those pushing for rapid immigration, illegal immigration and lack of voter identification.

[goaded]

Usually people wait both for evidence and until after the election to question it. Trump did neither (especially when he accidentally won - funny how you had no problem with that election or any congressional elections). It's an obvious plan to break American democracy, and you're involved.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded no it's not. It is perfectly valid too question elections that you think are fishy and that is part of free speech. You're just coping because people don't disagree with your Trump derangement bullshit.

[goaded]

I just hope one day America goes back to having politicians who respect the results of elections instead of undermining them for no reason, with no evidence, and starting before the election. And fewer useful idiots who enthusiastically support their lies.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded you mean like you who supports their voter fraud by running cover for them?

[goaded]

That's what you call keeping eligible voters on the rolls.
Do you think an illegal alien who's incorrectly on the voter rolls is going to intentionally put their name and address on record as illegally voting? ↗

[Juxtapose]

No, that's what you call gaslighting to preserve a corrupt state of government.

[goaded]

Elections are not the corrupt part of government. Unlimited dark money in elections is corruption. Insider trading is corruption. Sitting in judgement in cases involving the person who gave you that position and is dangling the possibilty of the AG post if they win is corruption. Over-charging the government for your security detail is corruption. Profiting off other country's renting of your properties is illegal and corruption. Taking vacations with and paid for by billionaires and not reporting them is corruption. Accepting a knighthood from a foreign royal family is corruption.

The elections are relatively free from corruption, apart from the threats of violence coming exclusively from the right. You only think otherwise because Trump's been lying about it since 2016 when Stone registered http://stopthesteal.org

Not a peep about elections to congress, only the presidential election, and ignoring the fact that there were thousands of ballots voting for Republicans for congress but Biden for president.

[Juxtapose]

It is incredible how you talk about political violence and don't mention how Trump had his life in danger twice now from two different assassins.

[Juxtapose]

If this happened to Harris you would not shut up about it.

[goaded]

LMAO! You just brought violence into the conversation, I didn't mention it. Both assassination attempts were by Republicans, afaics.

Elections are not the corrupt part of government. Unlimited dark money in elections is corruption. Insider trading is corruption. Sitting in judgement in cases involving the person who gave you that position and is dangling the possibilty of the AG post if they win is corruption. Over-charging the government for your security detail is corruption. Profiting off other country's renting of your properties is illegal and corruption. Taking vacations with and paid for by billionaires and not reporting them is corruption. Accepting a knighthood from a foreign royal family is corruption.

The elections are relatively free from corruption, apart from the threats of violence coming exclusively from the right. You only think otherwise because Trump's been lying about it since 2016 when Stone registered http://stopthesteal.org

Not a peep about elections to congress, only the presidential election, and ignoring the fact that there were thousands of ballots voting for Republicans for congress but Biden for president.

[Juxtapose]

Oh don't bullshit me, they were not registered Republicans and they donated to ActBlue. That is prime time gaslighting and is sickening.

[Juxtapose]

Still going to also parrot that very fine people hoax?

[goaded]

Enough with the attempted diversions, respond to this:

Elections are not the corrupt part of government. Unlimited dark money in elections is corruption. Insider trading is corruption. Sitting in judgement in cases involving the person who gave you that position and is dangling the possibilty of the AG post if they win is corruption. Over-charging the government for your security detail is corruption. Profiting off other country's renting of your properties is illegal and corruption. Taking vacations with and paid for by billionaires and not reporting them is corruption. Accepting a knighthood from a foreign royal family is corruption.

The elections are relatively free from corruption, apart from the threats of violence coming exclusively from the right. You only think otherwise because Trump's been lying about it since 2016 when Stone registered http://stopthesteal.org

Not a peep about elections to congress, only the presidential election, and ignoring the fact that there were thousands of ballots voting for Republicans for congress but Biden for president.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded all you are doing is hyper fixating on the bullshit the media has tried to put on Trump and you attempt to reverse the narrative by saying Republicans tried to steal the election. They haven't tried to steal an election to my knowledge since Bush (Gore 100% won it after all the votes were counted but they put a stop to that).

I'm not going to focus on every single race for congress, the big money right now is on the presidency. That will shape the course of America for decades to come, this election is crucial.

[goaded]

Sir Alito, knight of the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George, would probably argue that he got the title from a princess, not a prince, so it isn't unconstitutional. What do you think?

Article I, Section 9 (Powers Denied Congress), Clause 8 (Titles of Nobility and Foreign Emoluments):
"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

Get it though your head; SCOTUS is corrupt, it has been corrupted by the extremely wealthy.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded and what King, Prince or foreign state has been giving the Supreme Court money?

[goaded]

And I'm supposed to be the one who distracts? Who said foreign King, Prince or foreign states gave them money? American billionaires with business before the court have given them things of value, and a German "princess" has bestowed an honour, which has always been explicitly against the constitution, even before the Bill of Rights.

"Sir Alito, knight of the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George, would probably argue that he got the title from a princess, not a prince, so it isn't unconstitutional. What do you think?

Article I, Section 9 (Powers Denied Congress), Clause 8 (Titles of Nobility and Foreign Emoluments):
"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.""

[OddBeMe]

As seen with justice thomas... we just don't know
And as seen with trump.. you fcks just don't care

[Juxtapose]

@goaded they did explicitly say Prince and not Princess. And they said King and not Queen.

[goaded]

I knew you'd go for that absolutely pathetic response. What if it had been Queen Victoria in 1840?

""Sir Alito, knight of the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George, would probably argue that he got the title from a princess, not a prince, so it isn't unconstitutional."

Consitution of the United States, Article I, Section 9 (Powers Denied Congress), Clause 8 (Titles of Nobility and Foreign Emoluments):
"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.""

IOKIYAA. (It's OK if you're an asshole.)

[Juxtapose]

@goaded the very precise and exact wording of laws matters. Otherwise "spirit if the law" is in play & completely subjective

[OddBeMe]

Yet courts judge each defendant subjectively.

[Juxtapose]

*Spirit of the law

I meant.

Well precise wording should be used as often as possible so it maintains itself and doesn't change to the whimsy of subjective bullshit.

[Anonymous]

Yes, 2024 will be a repeat of 2016 where Trump wins by a slim margin. Harris mostly campaigned on "I'm not Trump", worked in 2020, but not this election. In my area, I've noticed compared to 2020, there are more Trump signs, and the number of Harris signs, there aren't quite as many as there was Biden signs in 2020. Democrats knew Harris was a weak candidate and a terrible campaigner, but the handed the nomination to her anyways just like they did Hillary in 2016

[OddBeMe]

If "I'm not trump" means progressive and sound economic policy... sure. Trump campaigns on bigotry

[goaded]

People keep stealing Harris signs, and obviously it depends on where you live what signs you see.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded That's not the case where I live, Harris just doesn't have the support that Biden did resulting in less yard signs. Some of the houses where I see Trump signs, there were Biden signs in 2020, and yes the same people still live there.

@oddbeme I'm not Trump, is Harris saying, vote for me, I'm the lesser of 2 evils. Harris really doesn't have any policies different from Biden, 99% of her campaign has been why you shouldn't vote for Trump and not why you should vote for Harris. Close to 50% of the electorate is independents, and they want to know why they should vote for Harris, not why they shouldn't vote for Trump.

[OddBeMe]

haven't heard that from harris. She has plethora of campaign promises regarding home ownership and student loans. you're just not listening

[Opinion Owner]

I am listening, much would have been better word than any, as it would have signified Harris has some policies different from Biden, but not a whole lot. I was talking with a financial expert on X about Harris's $25k for first time home buyers, it doesn't really address the issue of high housing prices, will actually make them worse, and you have to meet specific requirements to qualify, such as being a first time home buyer that includes your parents never owing a house.

[goaded]

Why would she move far away from something that works for most people?

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded Because what I've been seeing/hearing from independents, they feel they are worse off under Biden than they were under Trump, that's, not me, it's what I've been observing. No presidential candidate can win the election without winning over independents, which Harris is struggling to do.

[OddBeMe]

(Tdump voice) people been talking... i hear this all over the place...

[exitseven]

No Trump hasbeen ahead the whole time and is peaking at rhe right time. Harris is making one disaster after another.

[goaded]

Like that time a speaker at her rally said Puerto Rico was garbage? Or the time she said someone who disagreed with her should be shot? Or the time she had to hold a rally at a donor's site because she hadn't paid her half-million dollar bill from last time she was in the city? Or the time she couldn't grab a truck door handle? Twice.

Oh, wait, that was all Trump.

[exitseven]

@goaded the speaker was a comedian whose presence Trump had nothing to do with. The sound bit was a conversation about Liz Cheney being a was profiteer and how our kids are getting shot and she never had to serve in the military. When did Trump have to hold a rally because he did not pay his bills. This would be 24/7 news if it was true. And Trump climbed on that truck for the first time in his life with more agility than and average 78 year old man. At least he can go up a flight of stairs/

[goaded]

No, his campaign only hired him and vetted his show, including vetoing something they didn't like.

Trump never served, and he was of an age to go to Vietnam.

I think it was yesterday that he held his rally in Albuquerque on a runway instead of a convention centre because he still owes the city nearly half a million dollars from 2019. www.aol.com/...bq-convention-center-030100323.html
You really think Fox or OANN would cover that news?

You saw Trump miss the door handle twice, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRDQMCWnl6w

[exitseven]

@goaded Yes, Trump never served in the military. He also does not sell weapons and get rich while out kids get their legs blown off like the Cheneys.

[goaded]

He sells "America Bibles" made in China to suckers. He also freed 5,000 Taliban fighters in Afghanistan before the pullout and gave the green light for Turkey to invade and steal Kurdish areas of Syria.

[exitseven]

@goaded I looked at one of those Bibles and it is not made in China. It was printed by some company I never heard of but it is made here. There might be knockoffs out there like a lot of Trump gear. There is a chain of Trump stores where I live and some of the stuff they sell is not made here.

[goaded]

"Global trade records reviewed by The Associated Press show a printing company in China’s eastern city of Hangzhou shipped close to 120,000 of the Bibles to the United States between early February and late March.

The estimated value of the three separate shipments was $342,000, or less than $3 per Bible, according to databases that use customs data to track exports and imports. The minimum price for the Trump-backed Bible is $59.99, putting the potential sales revenue at about $7 million."
apnews.com/.../trump-god-bless-usa-bible-china-32a80611605d4052d8238064bbcace4c

[Dargil]

Popular vote, yes.

Electoral Vote, no.

[OddBeMe]

And you're ok with that anti democratic result?

[Dargil]

I am OK with a result produced by the system the Founders created. They knew a few big states could deny the rest from being respected. Pure democracy is mob rule. What happens when 3 wolves out vote one sheep about what's for lunch? That's democracy.

[OddBeMe]

Weve made changes before. Like women and not just landowners

[Dargil]

Republicans got them the right to vote when Democrats were in lock step against it. And Republicans got the major Civil rights act passed when your Ku Klux Klan tried to get it blocked. Yep Changes away from straight democracy.

[OddBeMe]

Sidestep, but... Conservative or liberals gave them them vote?

[Dargil]

I won't even question what a sidestep is. I last did that in boot camp.

[Sevenpointfive]

i'm buying a gun the same day i vote just in case lol

[SolitarySolace]

Nah, I think Harris is going to concede to Trump

[OddBeMe]

Ill be back after next week here waiting for you to scream rigged!

[msc545]

very close