HILARY CLINTON WAS WORSE
KAMALA HARRIS WAS WORSE
BOTH WERE EQUALLY TERRIBLE
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Neither was all that bad. The problem is with the Democratic Establishment itself.
Trump is a populist and the DEMs underestimated the power of populism. They are idiots for that because it's been on the rise at least since 1993 as illustrated in the movie "Falling Down".
The DEMs __HAD__ a good populist in Bernie Sanders, but the DEM Establishment (led by women) pushed to have Hilary be the candidate in 2016. On her record, she was actually very good and better than Trump certainly. But, she had some negatives. Sanders was very popular with common people and especially the young. I would have voted for him and I was 53 in 2016. But the DNC conspired with the Clinton campaign and the Democratic apparatchiks like the NYTimes and Washington Post to sabotage Sanders chances. This was obvious. It alienated a lot of young people so they either didn't vote or voted for Trump - the other populist.
Biden did a fine job as president, but he was not a good communicator as one so the good his administration did was easy to miss. Ironically, he did more for red states than Trump ever did. Harris was a wallflower as a VP and that did her no favors when she was anointed to be the 2024 DEM candidate after Biden dropped out. It should have been an open convention.
Anyway, that's the #1 reason Trump was twice victorious: The Democratic Party/Establishment is as competent as the New York Jets.
The #2 reason is that Trump is Trump; he doesn't hide who he is and people like that no matter how ugly that is. Harris came across as duplicitous which is what many politicians do. And, people believe Trump's lies, pure and simple.
@Danzigdawson Nope. Trump says what he is going to do and then he does it unless new contract information comes to light. It doesn’t bother me or the majority of voters. It is more smoke from the Left. We are over it meaning the scare tactics of the Left.
@Danzigdawson No one really believe the complaints about Trump anymore. So many lies about HIM. The Federal Government has no credibility. The Media has no credibility. The DOJ has no credibility. The courts are lacking credibility. The smear campaign has taken its toll of credibility. We just don’t want to hear the lies anymore. We don’t really care.
Compared to Hilary, Kamala was worse. Hilary had the qualifications to be President, Kamala did not.
Hilary had both domestic and international experience, in particular as secretary of State; her experience as First Lady in DC and in Arkansas was also a plus. Most importantly, Hillary had the benefit of a longer campaign, and defeating her rivals in the primaries.
Kamala's only experience was as VP, where she did nothing memorable. Her experience as prosecutor and attorney genera , and one term in the Senate, was limited. That she was forced to be the Dem's candidate, and only campaigned for a few months, with no primary results, left her at a significant disadvantage.
You can also look at results. Hilary beat Trump in the popular vote by 3 million while Kamala lost by 5 million. In electoral votes, Kamala carried 28 states and lost by almost 100 votes, while Hilary carried 30 states and lost by 70 votes.
Great summary with numbers.
Thanks for MHO
Good job with the numbers and facts.
No problem.
Fun fact: there were only two presidential election in which the losing candidate carried more states: 1960 (Kennedy carried 22 states, Nixon carried 26 states and 2 states went to unpledged southern Democrats) and 1976 (Jimmy Carter carried 23 states while Gerald Ford carried 27).
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I think they were both pretty sad choices. I would call myself an independent not totally following either major party, but I do think the dems got taken to the woodshed this time and I don't think it will get any better for them until they gather together and change so much of their ridiculous ideas. They all couldn't have been so stupid as not to see 4 years ago the general public is tired of all the illegals flowing into the US, the crime, and all the money give away projects they supported. We are not the stupid ones when it comes to knowing nothing is free and if we are giving to someone else, its coming from me.
I voted C, but upon further reflection, I think Kamala was much worse. Hillary Clinton was condescending and unlikeable as a person, but at least she was somewhat intelligent and experienced.
Kamala Harris though? I'm not sure I can think of someone more unintelligent than her. In addition to being absolutely politically incompetent, she was soulless, charmless, and tactless. Picking Tim Walz for VP? The "white dudes for Harris" ads, which desperately tried to avoid telling guys like me that we're trash, but couldn't help being passive-aggressive about it? Going on a podcast called "Call Her Daddy"? What was she thinking?
The more I think about it, the less I think that she would have been as bad as some people thought. Wow.
Hillary Clinton had more experience as a politician and had a more professional approach but there's also something a lot more sinister about her. If both had been contenders for nomination to their party at the same time, I would have definitely preferred that it go to Kamala over Hillary
I'd say Hilary, but both are terrible. It's kinda ironic that the 2 best thst the democrat party had. Bieng Tulsi Gabbard and Rober F Kenedy are both parties of trumps cabinet.
So for any of the level headed left leaning people out there you should be happy at the election results. Trumps cabinet is surprisingly bi partisan and that's a good thing. It will allow all voices a seat at the decision making table.
Now if we could just convince trump to make alex jones the press secretary purely for entertainment value that would be epic
Hillary for sure because she is smart and ruthless and connected with the State Department, FBI, and entire deep state apparatus. I describe her as a megalomaniacal, mass murdering, psychopathic, mob boss.
Kamala is just an ambitious pawn who will do anything she is told if it makes her rich.
I disliked both but Kamala never had to work for anything. She never won an election outside of California.
At least HRC was a fighter. I don’t like her but I respected her tenacity. She had to fight and win the 2016 primaries.
Kamala was a DEI recipient for Biden’s VP role and then coronated for the presidential nominee. She was given that without even winning one primary vote.
clinton at least had an identity. a criminally corrupt identity after all but let's be real, trump has that too. harris however has nothing. nobody likes her, not even her own party. was a surprise to nobody that she lost. cause everyone who voted for her, voted for her cause they hated trump even more. not cause they liked her.
They were both "middle class" (midwits) who thought they could force their degen values on the rest of the country and that mean tweets and J6 were a bigger threat than inflation or starting WWIII
Trump is the all time biggest embarrassment.
Nobody else is in the running
That light shines too bright
And yet he somehow managed to beat both Kamala and Hilary.
He must have something going for him.
Only proving the amount of halfwits America contains.
They were both equally bad, but in different ways. Hillary was smart and qualified, but she was also supremely unlikeable. Harris was somewhat more likeable, but horribly unqualified. She because VP only because she was a woman of color, and then she proceeded to do nothing for four years. Her ineptitude and lack of action caused the worst border crises in US history.
Harris, at least Clinton TRIED. She actually had policies. Her entire campaign wasn't "I'm not Trump, vote for me!"
Honestly I think Hillary was worse. Kamala is a blithering idiot, but at least she is not actively evil like Hillary is.
Policy wise it doesn't matter but hillary could at least defend her positions.
Kamala was worse. At least Hillery was smart. Harris is a dunce
Equally bad. Both had no respect for the electorate and thought they had to barely campaign, treating it as a coronation.
Hilary was far more qualified and competent. She lost because deep down we knew she and her family are the devil itself
Both. They both ran on feminism, abortion, hatred, antagonization and demonization of men.
I don’t see any difference between them
They all parrot the same tired old talking points
Both were terrible. However between the two of them, Hillary was at least more competent
Worst person? Clinton. Worst candidate? Harris. Clinton somehow managed to win the popular vote in 2016.
Kamala is mostly a liar and a bit incompetent when it came to running for President.. She was still scummy, not far behind Hilary but Hilary was still worse because she was a bit smarter than Kamala..
One of them lost the popular vote while the other isn't. That's the answer.
Kami was George Carlin's dictum: Stupid, full of shit and fucking nuts! None of these are sins. Hillary is Evil and she will burn.
Skamala was worse, but only by a cunt hair or two. At least Hitlery had SOME experience!!
Harris was even worse and that is saying something!
Kamala was a puppet, and empty suit. Hilary is actively evil.
Oof, this is tough. Kackling Harris literally didn't have a platform and two seconds is all it takes to find her horrendous history with jailing black people for the dumbest crap.
Both are war criminals who should go to jail for their involvement in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and other countries overseas, they should go to hell when they expire on earth.
And any gutless fool on GAG who doesn’t recognize politicians either on the right or left committing or assisting or giving funds for war purposes and just wants to politicize their actions only as domestic issues within America painting this red and blue brush is ignoring many many deep rooted issues, no wonder Americans are complacent when the US govt takes tax payer money worth billions and gives it to Israel or Ukraine, pathetic.
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Kamala Harris, but she is attractive and attention seeker, I love her smile.
kamala is a dingbat who says nothing just laughs
Let me put it this way: I was able to put my misgivings on Hillary aside to vote for her. Harris did not have that luxury - she has always come across as corporatist AF and completely not genuine.
Hilary won her election by 3 million votes.
Harris is a puppet, Clinton is properly evil. Harris' campaigning was worse.
Difficult. Kamala received more votes, but Hillary won the popular vote 🤔
Kamala is dumb and has done bad things. But Hillary Clinton is an evil genius with no soul.
Neither, both were uniquely qualified however they ran in one if the most historically racist and misogynistic countries on earth.
I hate both equally but Kamala is lucky if she has IQ higher than 60
Kamala, at least Hilary won a primary.
They were both terrible
@SixFootSexy Thank you for the Like
Kamala was an empty suit.
The better candidate was Kamala
Hilary is a psychopath, Kamala is just fake
Hilary made those comments
Allegedly, as reported in the news in 2016
They both suck and so does Trump.
That's like comparing dog shit to chicken shit
it looks like a tie
Trump stays dominating women
Kamala
Equally terrible.
Harris
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