Is hate actually a bad political strategy?

[ClassicDropout]

Even before the election, all I've seen online from women were posts about how men don't deserve them, men should die out, men aren't needed, men are rapists by nature, etc etc. I've just been told that dating a man that makes under 100k is "settling" and that he should date women who don't put any effort into their appearance. Keep in mind that these comments are almost always aimed at the general public. They bring this negativity to every interaction they have with men regardless of whether its true about them or not. I'm not taking this away from y'all; be as angry as you want... but why are you so confused when men aren't voting in your favor? I promise you that this rhetoric cost y'all millions of votes. I know there are lots of sane, liberal women out there, but the angry and unreasonable ones are the loudest. It's hurting your cause more than you know.

[Syntosi]

Lets just point something obvious out first. Being offended or repulsed by truth is not an excuse not to listen or accept it. If you reject truth because it is wrapped in shit and on fire then you are the problem, not the truth or its delivery.

As for the whole "dont date men under 100k", that is a traditional way to view dating and not a liberal way. The tradition is that men are the breadwinners and therefore represents the income that the house will earn. The traditional value of a relationship is Women=Men+Money. If you want a woman to marry you then you must have a career and buy her a big diamond ring etc..

Honestly. You just sound confused here. Nothing you say actually makes much sense. Women are not asking for the things you claim they do and they are angry for entirely different reasons. It is almost like you are not listening and injecting your own beliefs for what they are saying.

[ClassicDropout]

No I hear you. Lots of women aren't asking for this. Lots of Democratic women don't ask for this. It's the loud minority of women that's hurting everyone involved. I brought up the 100k thing because its hardly relevant. You can be a breadwinner without making 100k. It largely depends on where you're from and what kind of lifestyle you lead. Yet that's being thrown in my face. Im not injecting my own beliefs, I'm going based on what I see and hear. I hear WAY more people insulting men than building them up. The people that aren't insulting us, are simply staying quiet, which is fine. But I fail to see how that means I'm injecting my own beliefs when it's literally women that are saying these things. I personally feel like you're portraying me as a bitter neckbeard that hates women because you're assuming I don't see eye to eye with you.

[Syntosi]

Let me rephrase that. I have literally never heard of women saying that myself. I have heard plenty of other people, such as you, who claim to have heard it so I got to assume that somewhere on the internet there are at least some women who say it. But I have never personally heard it ever said by anyone else.

I also almost never hear anyone insulting men, and when I do I always see left wing people lashing out back at them because such behavior is unacceptable in my circles.

Do you know what an information bubble is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

I happen to think that you are probably in one and it is feeding you a very specific type of content which in turn is giving you an incorrect view of what the broader reality actually is. Everything you describe is just so alien to me because I dont have that impression at all.

[ClassicDropout]

I literally never said that this was the broader reality. Again, this is a loud, vocal minority that says these things. If an information bubble is to blame for me seeing it and not you, then that shows how toxic the whole situation really is. I have a blank slate account on X. I don't tweet, re-tweet, follow, or comment except for the things I actually use X for (which is gaming). I think in the past 3 years, I've tweeted out a Dokkan ad for in-game rewards, and I've entered a couple streamer giveaways. If that's enough to put me in an information bubble, then it's just fucked and politics will never matter again.

Either way, it doesn't change the fact that this hateful rhetoric is pulling people away from their ideals. Liberals seem to want conservatives to take action against their own toxic people. It's the same for conservatives. I do not appreciate being made out as the problem. None of my friends enjoy it either. I don't ask them who they voted for, but I can assure you that more than half probably voted for Trump because they don't see liberals as tolerant people. Same goes for the other half. They clearly don't see conservatives as tolerant, but I'm focusing on the liberals because their platform was kind of based on being more accepting.

[Syntosi]

How could I possibly agree that something is a loud minority when I literally never hear it? Its not like I am sticking my head in the ground either, I engage on multiple platforms and listen to many sources but the examples you use are such a small minority that I legit can't find them. When I find more people who believe in the flat earth than I do of women who hates men then I got to start asking questions.

[sawno]

It is, especially if you just won. Problem is that people remember all the dishonest evil people from the opposite site who hated on them and are now dunking on the other side because they won. But that's not the right thing to do because your harming a ton of actually terrified / brainwashed people in return. What you should do if you win is show compassion and help them understand, its the best time to persuade someone since they know they can't do anything about it and are eager to knowing it won't be that bad. But with all stages of grief currently they will be in a state of fury and then soon enough they will hopefully accept that they have been lied to and things will be ok.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

You need to get off the redpill algorithms bc that’s what you’re being fed. I haven’t heard or seen any of this stuff on my feeds and I certainly haven’t gone looking for anything like this.

[ClassicDropout]

I wish I could. I log into X, and it's like the first 30 tweets I see each time. And then I also get this thrown in my face, too. I just got a whole lecture from one of my friends about how black men don't deserve shit anymore and that we should get out of the gene pool.. I do my best to ignore it but I see too much of this shit.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Maybe try following some non lolcow feminist accounts and see how that changes your algorithm

[exitseven]

Yes, the trick is to make as many people to like you as possible

[Anonymous]

Democrats demonstrated this week that hate is a bad political strategy.

[jahaims]

Duh. You can control a divided population