Young liberal women across TikTok and Instagram are discussing and sharing information about the South Korean feminist movement, in which straight women refuse to marry, have children, date or have sex with men.
Yay! They won't reproduce and their species will die 😂
I don't know wtf was being taught when these people were in school ( I believe they're mostly millennials, and I'm gen z but I haven't been absorbed by wokism, so really don't know what their issue was)
As I mentioned in a comment, these people complaint they can't have countless abortions that were damaging to the body in the first place. Thing is Trump AVAILABLE in the cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother being at risk. It makes sense: when else would you need it? Promiscuity is not a solid reason for abortion. It costs resources, it damages the body and adults should be accountable for their actions... Truly these people do not know how privileged they are... There are countries where the elderly have no pension plans, where inflation doubles the cost of living weekly, where access to education is rare... These are real problems.
They can't all be saved, but it's their choice. The option is still there for them.
We clearly need more women like You. I mean... I know that about 52% of white women in the USA are like that (honestly, it's quite a shocking development if one only ever looks at who is the most vocal in public), but we still need more to safe the Western societies.
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@CalmUntilAbused it was quite surprising to see that 52% ! At least, some of these people understood there wasn't a real choice, even people who didn't 100% agree with everything Trump says... they took the grown up decision to bet on where the odds were better, for their future and that of their children... But I also find it frightening how there is a 48.5 % who clearly don't know what they're asking for... I don't have to be religious or anything to see we need prayers for humanity đđť but let's recognize this victory and keep up the good spirits!
Oh, the struggle is far from over. Have You heard about MATGA? The name is quite funny to me since in Poland, a mother would be called "matka", and some extremely irresponsible mothers are jokingly or mockingly called "madka" (like, a "mad matka") here. "MATGA" is a fun reversion of this consonant substitution that kind of reflects how those women value abortion over being a mother. I agree that we have to keep up the high spirits, though. At this point, only us giving up on fighting could make us lose this struggle. What's more, we have to maintain unity, which means MGTOW must accept the fact that there is some 52% of conservative women in the society and reconcile with them.
lol this is why a number of women should not make decisions on a lot of things. All emotional based. I did not say all, so for those women who are going to screech at me understand what I wrote. First of all to do such a thing would make it easier for those men looking for a partner to eliminate those leftist women. Iâm sure they donât want a female like that. So thank you. Second theyâre just taking responsibility for what they should have been responsible for in the begging. Being held accountable. Over time a lot of these women will grow up, realize what a mistake they made. By then the chances of them meeting a man will be slim to none. As for those women who are also shaving their heads. Thatâs disrespectful to the women who are battling cancer who have to go through chemotherapy. Which does cause hair loss if you didnât already know. Itâs also disrespectful to the women who are suffering from alopecia. Youâre also saying that bald women arenât beautiful, that no man could love an ugly, bald woman thatâs why weâre doing this so we donât attract men. All these women complained, said men shouldnât have a say in womenâs reproductive rights, so now when a lot of us men voted the other way now you want us to have a say by voting for Kamala? Make up your mind. Iâm not even sure why itâs the men who are being demonized for this when a lot of women voted for Trump as well. No wonder why men are checking out. Blamed for everything no matter which way we choose. Told men we arenât shit, we donât need you, weâre independent but the minute some girl is getting smacked around now all of a sudden women are chirping about why no man stepped up to help. Imagine being told things like this, then still expecting men to support you. Good luck w all those feminine men on the leftist side.
Apparently this is no marriage, no childbirth, no dating, and no sex.
The fact is that the women opt for this would 1) only stick to a few rules or just vibe for the concept 2) advocate for it without participating 3) would likely have done this without Trumpâs Presidency for numerous of reasons
In the umbrella of this movement lies an individual. She might feel unsafe, unstable, or insecure just as the men who choose this lifestyle. The truth is, the cost of living is too damn high also the political waters are high & boiling over with so much hatred from both sides though mainly male leaning issue. Women who choose to be part of 4B or choose not to, have all the reasons in the world to take part or not maybe they already have children so childbirth isnât a priority / have been single for such a long time that they just cling to this concept for the time being to send a message I donât know. Whatever they choose doesnât affect me, live your life and God Bless.
Though I do want to voice concern, if people are doing this just to send a message to others then that isnât the way. If it genuinely makes you more comfortable, happy, fulfilled in life, and empowered then go for it though donât do it for the wrong reasons either.
I think the best response I've seen about this movement was from a woman living in the states who has family in Iraq, I believe, and she made it clear... liberal women are the most spoiled in the world.
While there are countries where women actually have their rights taken from them, from having to be covered from head to toe (not choosing to do that, handmaid's tale style), to not being able to do anything or go anywhere without male escorts, to not being allowed to speak, not even with other women, these lib women complain about their imagined rights being taken from them and choose hysterics, emotional manipulation, main character energy, false narcissistic "empathy" and crazy eyes.
I see... so it's better to wait until your own country enacts those policies which you see COMING before you raise voices to prevent the obvious onslaught. Brilliant. Got it.
Guess what girlie - losing your bodily autonomy is not losing "an imagined right"; it's the START of losing all the rights you might ever have. You should KNOW this, living in a country where women have been fighting for rights for hundreds of years.
So basically, no one should ever complain about anything - anywhere because someone else always has it worse. you should never speak up about issues, because someone else - has it worse.
Stop being such a whiner for those women, at least they're alive and not being aborted - they should be forever grateful for that and not complain. Those aborted have it worse.
Not that I'm a fan of this "movement" or what it even is - don't care enough, since I gave the huge ass privalige of not being a murican woman.
@loveslongnails and @Potteplante
1. "Imagined rights being taken from them"
2. Putting things in perspective helps keep one balanced, yes. It's like people living in a desert, while some are parched barely gettinf a drop of water but for the occasional rain, the others in their air-conditioned oasis complain about their champagne being warm.
3. Show how the US laws or the proposed laws by Trump or any woke person will lead to what happens in extremist muslim countries. What are the similarities between the liberal west and extremist countries... since to you the conservative west inevitably leads to that.
"Show how the proposed laws will lead to extreme measures, hmm?"
* First of all, DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK. If you don't know how the laws that were put into effect in certain of our states have KILLED women, then I don't have the time to explain it to you.
Look up the restrictive abortion measures enacted by Republican states in the USA.
* Secondly, it never happens all at once. You take away one liberty here, another there, it when they're gone you ask "how did this happen?" First it's bodily autonomy. Now there's talk of trying to repeal a woman's right to vote. It wasn't until 1974 a woman could have a credit card in HER OWN NAME based on HER OWN INCOME, but that could be reversed, along with the right to get a mortgage.
Trump and the GOP want to eliminate "no fault divorce". So if your husband abuses you mentally or physically beats you, sorry. You're stuck. It's not a leap to imagine the patriarchy imposing "modesty codes" on dress, by law, beginning on the local level. Just look at the Muslim countries where it was in effect for centuries, and still is in many.
To summarize, I don't have to "prove" anything to you. This is history repeating itself, and you're some kind of troll.
@loveslongnails oki doki then
@loveslongnails I mean... If a husband hurts his wife, the divorce would be his fault, right? Thus, I can't see how a woman could be trapped with an abusive husband if no fault divorce is done with. What's more, I do not personally believe in no fault divorce as an idea. There is always someone at fault in case of a divorce. It might be both sides, but it's never neither side. Oh, and abortion does not save women's lives from anything else than their own irresponsibility - no sane person would forbid abortion if the life of the mother is at stake. Not even the hardcore-conservative Catholic Church does. A direct threat to the mother's life is actually the only and explicitly stated exception to the rule that abortion is a sin.
@CalmUntilAbused Since you do not live in the USA or follow the news of such events, I'm going to cut you some slack.
" abortion does not save women's lives from anything else than their own irresponsibility"
You're talking about elective abortion. Not going to address that. I'm talking about NECESSARY abortion to save the life of the mother when the embryo in not viable and will not grow or survive.
" no sane person would forbid abortion if the life of the mother is at stake."
Again, you haven't been paying attention to what's happened here in the USA. Who EVER said these people are SANE?
Just Google "women who have died in Texas from abortion laws". Do some research. It's happened in several different states as well. Don't try and tell me there's verbiage in some of these laws addressing "saving the life of the mother", because to date, NO doctor or hospital has intervened to do so. Why? Because the STATE has informed them they'll be investigated for their medical decisions, and Dr's are too afraid to risk their livelihoods.
The state even arrested and tried to prosecute a woman for have a miscarriage while on her toilet, and flushing the remains. It was just of mass of cells. What else should you do with it?
Saving the life of the mother is NOT a priority any longer in US states that have these abortion restrictions. Women have been told to "come back when you're crashing", in other words, near death. One woman did, but by the time they gave her proper care, she was septic and died 3 days later.
The Catholic Church has no say in what happens in these states - it's law. Please try to lecture anyone when you don't have any FACTS to back you up.
www.propublica.org/.../josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage-texas-abortion-ban
@CalmUntilAbused You don't understand how the laws work in this country, depending on the state. If a husband physically abuses a wife once, and she reports it, very little happens except now she's made him even MORE angry and likely to hurt her again, physically. But there's also mental and emotional abuse, which is tough to prove in court, but equally as real and devastating. It's not his "fault" until you PROVE it in court.
No fault divorce covers a list of other reasons. Bottom line is, you take away the right for a person to have control over their life. It still has to be "granted" by the court, so this is not some arbitrary practice that gets executed on a whim.
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u Pathetic people clamoring for 15 minutes of fame!
Who in the hell wants them anyway?
They aren't any thing special and if I was a man I wouldn't have any desire to even want to get near them in the first place.
I am an anti-feminist Christian woman and I believe that all of this is a bunch of hooey!!
Fun animated response! I agree. I often quip that nature made its poisonous creatures brightly colored for a reason. Think brightly colored hair scheme by those ascribing to this moment ⌠It is as if their hair fashion of choice wasnât already depicting the cautionary, Skull & Crossbones to their detractors as their own version of a warning, poisonousâŚ
I don't know why all of these women are so worried about their rights... nothing is being taken away from them other than the ability to murder their unborn children... and from what I've heard that stays at a state level anyways. It's odd to me that the same women who are worried about their rights are OK with men using the same restroom as them and their daughters, and they're ok with people who were born men competing with them in women's sports, and they're ok people who were born men being named "woman of the year". Wake up people... those are our rights being stripped away. I can only imagine how offensive it must be for other women around the world who really do have their rights taken away to hear of all these American women worried about their rights. We can drive and have jobs. We can show our hair. We can voice our opinions... as we should!!!
Ikr! Oh no, can have countless abortions that were damaging to the body in the first place. Why would you even wanna do that to you body? PLUS, he stated that abortion will be available in the cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother being at risk. I mean, that's all you really need!! Promiscuity is not a solid reason for abortion. It costs resources, it damages the body and adults should be accountable for their actions... Truly these people do not know how privileged they are... There are countries where the elderly have no pension plans, where inflation doubles the cost of living weekly, where access to education is rare... These are real problems.
And these women will just make themselves more miserable in the process. And I say emphasize more miserable because these women were always miserable to begin with regardless whoever is our president.
Trump just gives these women a manufactured boogeyman to point to their fingers at vs. taking accountability for their own problems and self inflicted misery.
I am also more optimistic this time around vs 2017-2020. Reason being Trump won the popular vote and leftists are finding themselves increasingly divided amongst each other and alienated from people. Some women are noticing and quietly walking away from that self destruction.
Also some women who might of got caught up on the #metoo band wagon year ago are now looking back and having second thoughts about that gross stupidity. They probably wonât want to do something even more stupid like what this sounds like.
I've been living that lifestyle LONG before this became a "movement" so... I'm just living a normal life 🤷ââď¸😂
But power to the women choosing to do so! It's a VERY peaceful life.
Sad, Hopefully you find someone
@monorprise it's not sad in her case because she did it as a personal choice. What's sad is these people thinking what they are doing now poses some kind of threat đ sad is how easily people like that are swayed đ
@monorprise Not looking, but thank you for your kind words regardless :)
I gave up on relationships a LONG time ago. I got sick of dealing with guys pretty much making me and my self esteem feel like crap so I went on an hiatus-
And it's so nice I'm just choosing to stay this way, lol
It only seems nice in the short term, in the long run unless you have children to experienced that 2nd half of life your really missing out.
wouldn't they be better off with a ban on guys under 6 inches?
lol.
Sadly for you, those are normally the ones who actually have to work for a living.
As long as they're not hostile to all men or become vengeful misandrists, sure. They're entitled to their own MGTOW (who I don't approve of aggression from either). Getting pregnant became a bigger risk than it has in decades and it's just a way to keep themselves safe and send a message at the same time that they don't approve of having their freedom to manage their body taken away. I do hope they can find both male and female friends that they can trust, because I don't blame them for being angry. It's not because they loved going through with the option, but having the option at all. Raising a baby, in this economy? Without a dedicated partner? (Not always the case but you understand what I mean) Lastly, not everyone who gets pregnant willingly chose to have sex, and I don't feel rapists deserve to spread their bloodline however they want.
Nope! That movement is mostly made up of women that already hate men. Men are beautiful beings and I'm glad those women are removing themselves from the dating/gene pool just as my son has become an adult.
No.
they can go their own way⌠and live miserably on their own and see what their life will be like around 50, 60 years old. They will regret.
also they are free to leave this country⌠when I asked what country they would go⌠they went silent.
I think it is highly positive that ladies who are unsuitable to relationships are dealing themselves out. Plus wearing insignia that identifies them as such.
I would bet that 95% of people who don't use reddit or gag would not even know what that is, let alone be a part of it.
More like 99%.
so basically they're trying to copy MGTOW but instead this would only self-correct the abortion issue. no sex = no pregnancy = no abortions.
at least you had Dave Ramsey and other economists bashing MGTOW for "tanking" the economy. nobody is gonna miss 4B who only have sex to offer to society
the 4B movement would only end up punishing their "male allies" who would be driven away towards Trump even more and then Republicans win the 2028 election!
No. But you guys should be grateful for the 4b movement.
Hell yeah, it basically outs them as undateable.
@worldscolide exactly.
first it was feminism, then #metoo and now 4B.
women just love recycling their own failures dont they? but the better question is how the fuck is them claiming their false celebacy gonna change anything?
but isn't it ironic how these are the same women who bitch and whine about making abortion legal and free?
No but I find this crazy because it will only attract men more since men love to try to get what they can't have. It's like a challenge for them
In this regard I am not sure whether this applies as the women ascribing to this moment already are not being sought after by men. Even still, us wanting to get what we cannot have doesnât really apply to most menâs nature. Frankly this sort of behavior seems to apply to a very small segment of men âandâ women of diminished character and to neither sex at large. Granted I can see where one can develop this perspective if certain life choices causally place one within the circles of which such individuals gravitate towards.
@MannMitAntworten everyone wants forbidden fruit. Especially with men they seem to want things more that they can't have. It is in their nature to do so
Then I am speaking for myself and my circle of men friends ⌠forbidden fruit holds no allure. The way I see it, lesser developed will want to stick their finger in the outlet in spite of being told it will hurt if you do. I never stuck my finger in the socket nor did I stick my finger in fire to prove the hurt to myself.
I'm with you, Mann, forbidden fruit is such a turn off. I think that's mostly a female thing, to be drawn to that. I'm attracted to interest, and repulsed by lack of interest. One tiny indication to me that a girl isn't interested and I lose all interest.
Apple, I think you just know too many weird dudes
@BetaBucks no this is really a man thing. It is weird but many men are attracted to what they can't have. Shit tell a man he can't have anything and he'll randomly start wanting it. Not even just about attraction/sex
@BetaBucks men have a Adam's apple for a reason... that forbidden fruit got stuck so now they have to forever crave it
@BetaBucks sure daddy I believe you đ
dude the women who partake in the 4B movement aren't attractive at all to begin with. so no
@Filthy_Immigrant I'm not doing the 4b movement. Does that mean I'm hot? đ¤
I dont know since I dont know what you look like. but nice sweeping generalization by the way
@Filthy_Immigrant didn't you see my pic the other day? Haha
I never have
I grew up in the wrong era, to any guy whoâs hard working, kind, decent looking and healthy shouldnât have trouble finding a young woman to marry and start a family with. Unfortunately, ideologies that have warped the minds of both males and females, right wing and left govt parties has destroyed this world essentially.
Women are too horny and harmonal to not have sex anyways let them try the sex fast might it more delicious for them then they might value it more. re-state//background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft
No, they will simply continue refusing to have sex with Trump voters like they have been doing for the past 10 years.
It only exist in Korea though?
Kinda the same things as MGTOW if you think about it
I find the both movements kinda stupid
No I will not. Iâd remain single before joining such a ridiculous movement.
No thank you. I want get married, have children, and have sex with my future husband
lol. You are ware Trump and his ilk are down for paying for sex, and rape; right?
Hey heâs got goetz as attorney general. Trafficking underage kids is apparently how you get promoted in this administration
good job... exactly what the right wants...
It's the smart move.
Lmao, just here for the comments of women outing them selves unworthy of being wife/marriage material.
Sound like women that are going to be single forever anyway because nobodyâs going to want to be with them if thatâs how they act
Bro, the immense of women aren't worried about stupid silly ish going on social media movement.
Bills gotta be paid.
They could name a new political party the 4B IDIOTS. if the government does anything we don't like we will shave our heads to start and we will become more unhinged by the moment.
Fuck no. I still want my husband all the time. I'm a horny woman and Im done having children.
At least. 4B will weed out the Trump haters. Then it will make it easier to find a SO of the same political mindset!
They can try, but I guarantee you they won't last 5 days. re-state//background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft
You mean the Femcels that where already doing what they where doing for a while
No one really cares about their fake movement.
No!! I am still interested in a relationship with a man and want to have kids
I already made those decisions before the movement. I ainât good enough for a man.
Are You alright? I mean, You don't seem fanatical like those women, just feeling inferior. And in this case, You are most likely one of those people who are the most worthy of happiness.
Not specifically, but I'll stay single for quite some time probably. Regardless of the movement.
Women inclined to that way of thinking should absolutely go the 4B way. We will all be better off for it..
They won't, if they could abstain from sex abortion wouldn't be an issue in the first place lol
Canât be impregnated by woman last I check unless that has change and start packing. as in the 2nd amendment.
Women think they are oppressed in the West. They have no idea what the rest of the world is like.
Let's hope they all do, overpopulation is a chronic issue
Actually they refused to do that with low class men. Which was a lot of Korean men at the time. It was their Me Too movement.
So does that mean that these women will only date, marry and have sex with women?
If mine does, I join my own MGTOW movement.
I really don't see that going anywhere!
They helped him win the election. Pay attention.
Iâm celibate and thatâs not changing
yeah for sure, and im not even from america
Hopefully they will
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