Is Christianity a political uniform?

[Melanie31]

Is Christianity a political uniform gathered around Trump to gain privilege?

[Ironco]

Oh come on. What kind of gas lighting is that? Or do you really think that?

[NimbleOcelot]

Many people in my church treat it as such.

[jshm2]

Christianity is more a political system, than a religion.

[NewWaves]

No it isn't

[WhiteSteve]

Evangelical Christianity enjoys some regional popularity, but isn’t overwhelmingly popular nationally. The relationship between Trump and Christians is symbiotic. He needs them to get elected, and they need him to get elected to get their mostly unpopular agendas pushed through.

We’re in a very uncertain time with Trump. He may not leave office in 4 years, for all we know, everything we ever knew is out the window. This could be nothing or this could legitimately be an attempt to install a dictatorship. It could all go any number of ways, most of them bad. But he’s in, and he may or may not still be beholden to the Christians. Trump’s allegiance is to Trump alone, he’s just good at telling people what they want to hear in the moment. His Christian act is lip service. Just depends on who he needs or doesn’t need, really.

There’s not much else to Trump. Lies constantly, says whatever he says thinks sounds good in a given moment to a particular audience, and then denies any and all wrongdoing about literally anything and everything, and claims everyone is just out to get him because he’s so awesome and is trying to give us things “they” don’t want us to have…. its all incredibly stupid, but we apparently have an abundance of incredibly stupid people who believe this guy’s lies, which are ridiculous to the naked eye, but they’re in full cult mode, they’re long gone from sensible thought.

We’ll have to wait and see just how bad this gets, but it WILL be bad.

[WhiteSteve]

Literally no clue what he’s talking about🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤣🤣🤣
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUngQUCsyE

[WowGIrl4ever]

@WhiteSteve 👋

[NimbleOcelot]

As someone from a Christian household, Fox has been telling them of the "attack on Christianity" for years, and posting videos of some of the more hysterical examples as "proof." So now they think Trump is a way to win back the rights they never lost, even realizing Trump isn't a good person. The whole people getting mad about other people saying "Happy Holidays" was the stupidest bs I ever saw.

[NimbleOcelot]

Real Christians don't support Trump.

[Quigly]

@NimbleOcelot There is an attack on Christianity. Notice how none of the radio stations ever play Christmas music that relates to Christmas as having something to do with religion or Jesus?

It's true, they have policies to separate the idea that Christmas has anything to do with Religion and simply sell it as a happy time of year for exchanging gifts. In other words, it's about materialism. not Jesus.

Communism really is against religion and Christianity in particular. All one has to do is look at Communist China and their attacks on the Churches.

[NimbleOcelot]

@Quigly Not playing Jesus centric Christmas music isn't an attack on Christianity. I don't know anyone who listens to those songs regularly aside from those who dedicate their life to it. My dad never did until he became a preacher. Also, Christmas itself is Christian, and most of the songs are either general holiday songs or Christian songs. When was the last time you heard a Muslim or Honukka song on the radio?

Again, that's corporate policies, and not an attack. Some also do it to reach a broader audience, and some just want to be inclusionary. You are free to listen to Jesus centric Christian songs on your own. They are on Spotify. But Christmas itself is a Christian holiday that is celebrated nationally.

Communism isn't against shit. Communism is just a economic ideology. Also, China is attacking Christians, yes, but the US is not. There is no attack on Christianity in the US, and I've been across the country.

[WhiteSteve]

@WowGIrl4ever yoooooo, whattup stranger!✌️

[WhiteSteve]

@NimbleOcelot well said👍

[WowGIrl4ever]

Hey dude glad to see you stranger...

[WowGIrl4ever]

What he said

[D_Bone_Steak]

The left has made it a point to be anti-God and (Just like the black community) Judeo-Christian religions are starting to understand that's not your friend unless you're all about trans kids, getting gay, and killing babies.

Yes, the left threw riots for a guy that thinks like me

It's just a political party and one of those parties still includes their interests. The other one wants to legalize fucking kids and destroy America for...

[D_Bone_Steak]

I forgot to mention Muslims are extremely conservative... I have no idea why the left is trying to pander to them as one of the victim classes. I will shake hands with a Muslim any day and help throw a homo off the roof with them.

[Adel50]

Muslims don't throw homosexuals off the roof.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Adel50 Sure Adel50, I'll take your word for it and stare at my folder here on my computer screen that is filled with videos of them doing that, or worse, that I wouldn't dare post on this site. They don't do it... not at all. 😂 🤣

Have you even been on the internet at all?

[Horn_Hog]

So why did @gym_bro post a picture of tranny-BLM in one of his questions?

[Adel50]

@d_bone_steak And you expect me to take your word for it that the folders on your computer screen contain such videos?

[Adel50]

I have been on the internet, and all I see is propaganda with no proper evidence. Until such evidence arises, the claim remains false.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Adel50 OMG... that's like saying child porn doesn't exist on the internet just because YOU (YOU), just you have not seen it yourself. You have no logic going on in your thinking meat. See your way out... or I'll block you.

[D_Bone_Steak]

boards.4chan. org/pol/catalog

Here... go fuck around and find out so that you can see some shit outside your bubble @Adel50

[Adel50]

I know child pornography exists, but I have seen the circumstances in which claims of Muslims throwing gays off roofs came to be, and these circumstances are not supported by evidence. I've seen instances of claims that turn out to be false, and that doesn't make me less logical. It just means I don't believe every piece of propaganda circulating on the internet. If you want to block me, go ahead—it only shows how weak you are in responding to criticism of your claim.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Adel50 You done yet? I gave you a link as a starting point... ask those guys and they'll tell you where to go find it. I'm not linking anything directly on this site because that would get me banned.

Go find out, or drop it, but we're done talking about this... understand?

[Adel50]

What exactly are they going to give me, videos of Muslims throwing people off the roof?

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Horn_Hog Did he get the V_Injector treatment?

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Adel50 Oh yeah... links to stuff you probably will wish you never seen. Just ask them and you'll receive. If you scroll around on their pages though, they're kinda obsessed with the Russians and Ukrainians killing the shit out of each other right now... so you'd probably have to ask. The Muslim shit is old news right now.

Keep in mind they're the shitlords of the internet. They'll figure out where you live if you piss them off. They're the same group that's given a missile location to the U. S. Government for a ISIS training camp... and the reason Liberals think the okay hand sign means white power. They're where my profile picture comes from. ... also don't be surprised if they troll you as well.

But you're internet savvy right? ... you already know all this... right?

[Adel50]

All of this is irrelevant to me. What is actually relevant to me are the videos you are talking about. In the video, does it depict Muslims throwing people off a roof?

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 have you tried googling it? I've seen one on accident a while ago. The brief time I spent on 4 chan exposed me to some sick shit. Torture videos too. People used to trick you into clicking the links. Shit that I wish I never saw because it got burned into my memory.

You can google and find it. And the rooftop video. Or videos, if there are multiple. Just know that you'll regret it unless you're into that kind of thing. Don't post the links on GAG though.

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 here, just read this article, instead of watching evil stuff that warps your brain: www.nbcnews.com/.../isis-hurls-gay-men-buildings-stones-them-analysts-n305171

[Adel50]

@KingslayerC Do these videos depict Muslims throwing people off the roof?

[Adel50]

@KingslayerC Now I remain skeptical about the media says.

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 people dressed in Islamic garb, throwing a man off a roof. If they're actually Muslim and the victim is actually gay, is impossible to know.

[Adel50]

@KingslayerC How do we know the victim is gay? How do we know he is being thrown off the roof for being gay? What are the indications?

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 we don't. Just like 100% of the videos you've ever watched in your entire life. You don't know for a fact that the details presented are accurate, or the claims within the video are genuine.

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 do you accept that literally every claim in history could have been false? Including claims about the Holocaust? Do you accept that 100% of stories you were taught about history could have been nothing but propaganda. Every single scientific claim, could be a lie presented by corporation and their government backers?

[Adel50]

@KingslayerC Then why claim otherwise? All we have is a video of so-called Muslims throwing people off buildings. No indications, nothing. And we're all supposed to believe that they were throwing people off the roof because they were gay?

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 now, you made a clear assertion, yourself, that Muslim "don't" throw homosexuals off of roofs. How did you arrive at this factual conclusion?

[Adel50]

@KingslayerC Yes, they could have been. That's why the world is built on an evidence-based system. As a matter of fact, I do. If there's one thing I have learnt, is that people lie. So I remain skeptical unless the statement is logical, or is evidence supported.

[Adel50]

@KingslayerC Because in Islam, homosexuality isn't punished by throwing people off of roofs.

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 because that's what the claim about the video is. Otherwise why ever discuss any video about anything if we have to completely disregard the claims? Have you ever discussed a video as being what the claims are about the video, or do you always completely disregard the claims. Let me ask you this, are there pictures that show evidence? Or all pictures disregarded? Should the pictures showing evidence of crimes and if the Holocaust be completely disregarded because you didn't personally witness them as being factual to the claims being presented.

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 how could the evidence be supported? Couldn't all supporting evidence also be wrong? If you believe the logical nature is required, what is your exact criteria for what is logical? Have people ever been executed for being homosexual? Have Muslims ever killed innocent people?

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 has there ever been a terrorist incident caused by Muslims?

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 how do you know that no Muslim has ever thrown someone off of a rooftop for being gay? What is your evidence to prove this, without a doubt?

[Adel50]

@KingslayerC The claim is that Muslims throw gays off buildings. I asked how he knew that, and he said because there are so-called videos of such incidents. But the video itself isn’t evidential enough to support the claim, which makes the premise false.

I don’t have to personally witness them. As I said, it either follows a logical principle or is evidence-based. Pictures can be remnants of events that have occurred. A video of someone pushing another person off a building with no context isn’t enough evidence to support the claim.

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 how do you know they DON'T do that? You made an assertive claim. How do you back your assertion?

A picture is even less useful as a piece of evidence. It can be completely faked and there is no way to know if literally any claim about it is true. What you're actually saying here is that if something goes against your personal beliefs, you will disregard it, and if something agree with you, you will consider it to be true.

But I'd like to check your logical principles here. Could you answer all of the questions I asked before?

[Horn_Hog]

@d_bone_steak nah he did not get @V_injector treatment, which just shows how easy it is to get banned.

He simply has a recent question with a picture of gay BLM.

About the missile target you mentioned when teaching Adol5 what 4chan is, I was told that it wasn't an actual ISIS training camp and those sort of rebels were ones with good intentions, and that the government that launched the missile was russian, whom they contacted through some highly ranked russian journalist.

[Horn_Hog]

@Adel50 you can literally search "muslims throw gays off roofs" and a ton of posts from official MSM channels show actual footage, some more than a decade old, up to recent ones still happening.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Horn_Hog "you can literally search "muslims..."
You see why I was just irritated with his argument style. What he's doing is disregarding the most basic of concluded premises and trying to argue to prove it or it doesn't stand... and it's just fucking annoying... it's so fucking proven by basically everyone that he sounds retarded. It's like trying to argue with a flat earther that the world is round, or with those "moon landing never happened people." He's not trying to hear anyone out about it... He's not doing his homework on it and fucking around and finding out for himself, he's just being annoying about it.

I liked how @KingslayerC was basically checking his ass with his own logic tricks though. @Adel50 slips into trying to ignore it and keep the argument going is funny... he just wants to argue over minute details of the premise to make the conclusion not valid. ... maybe he picked up a philosophy book somewhere about argument and is trying to flex his thinking meat, but it comes off as the equivalent of me benching 300lbs and him saying it doesn't count because I didn't bench it the way he thinks it should be benched. That's why I just gave up and didn't even want to try and school him... too annoying for me.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Horn_Hog As for that training camp operation... I was just observing online during all that and didn't participate. Those google map using autists are way over my brain level of autism. Like when they found Shia LaBeouf's flag from just a picture... amazing shit. A while I posted here directly from there where the shooter was and all that during the Trump shooting. They figure that shit out using google maps and math.

All in all... I know they found a thing for things to do a thing. Their autism is incredible.

[Horn_Hog]

@d_bone_steak I didn't even read the conversation with the third guy before responding. I just saw the very ending that he still denied it.

I now see the MSM article linked.

Moon landing shit is reasonable to question though. But just because the footage given to us in high definition back when broadcasting across the earth sucked which is suspicious, and for other reasons might be fake, doesn't imply the flatness of the earth or that no landing even happened, it just means the footage shared was fake.

It's the dogma that's stupid, not the topic which the dogma is about.

It happens anywhere, even with people so in love with a politician they don't want to hear any criticism. Including trump, putin, controlled oppositions who are certainly more tolerable than woke fаggоts...

... let's just wait and see if the prediction based on shit like numerology happens, I guess that will be the ultimate proof that #1 both sides work together against humanity, and #2 the validity of gematria and other occult shit.

Let's see if trump "dies" in a Jesuit ritual on February 17th. I realize it must sound like some gay ass schizo shit without having looked at the actual "evidence". Let's just wait and see.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Horn_Hog That's my usual take on the future... let's wait and see. It's good to have a theory of what may be, but at the same time, let's see if it plays out that way. Like with your theory I see validity in it because, they obviously do want Trump dead, and they (the uniparty/military complex) obviously want their war with Iran... and the main reason I didn't see my wife for over a year while Trump was still president was because of Iran... they almost had him pushed into a war back then.

This time around, the republifucks own all the branches and the popular mandate... The opposition's only option thanks to the bang up job Biden and Kamala did now, is trying to take Trump out. Your theory seems valid to me. I'm hoping he's smart enough to know that too though and put protections in place and tear up the establishment and their bullshit.

I can't even build a farm in my front yard because of "codes" which sucks a big dick. What the fuck is the point of keeping my front yard as nothing but grass and that stupid tree? It could be growing me potatoes and shit.

... oh, and by the way... wife just got new orders. I'm going back to the west side again. San Diego this time. Fuck. My. Life. ... then people wonder why I hate traveling when I've been sent all over the world and back again my entire life and I'm going to be almost 50 when it all fucking stops... and even that is a maybe.

[KingslayerC]

@Adel50 coming back to this. You're solid bro. you're legitimately on the right track. I'm legit sorry if I came off as too aggressive. I seriously think we are on the same page. I'm just trying to see how far you've been able to delve into skepticism. It's the right way to live. Just don't pick and choose your skepticism. Apply it to everything.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@KingslayerC I would only add to your advice to @Adel50 to pick battles that are worth fighting. Not every hill is worth dying on. I obviously looked at the Asker's profile pic, and was just trolling tongue-in-cheek style... not trying to make any real statement or have an in-depth Classical Philosophy Logic course in argument... IT'S CALLED A 'SHIT POST!'

A shit post on the internet isn't worth that much effort. I mean come on, I wouldn't really throw a gay off the roof, nobody has time for that 😂 🤣

Alright... maybe just a gay that really pissed me off for unspecified reasons, and he happens to be gay. Not just because he's gay though. 😂 🤣

[KingslayerC]

Lol well I hope you wouldn't! Great points though. And @Adel50 is a good dude, so I think we're right to just try to reason with him like we are.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@KingslayerC Maybe he is a good dude, but he gave me the "Where's-your-source-bro" vibes. Where's-your-source-bros are fucking annoying as fuck.

We all know them... if you go find the sources they won't even look at it or they'll find something wrong with every source you provide them. Then it becomes a never-ending cycle of basically doing homework and research for someone that doesn't intend to agree at all anyway.

It's like trying to argue with a teenager that just found his first book on classical argumentation with a dash of "I know it all" syndrome and served on a platter of The Dunning-Kruger effect. Which is cool and all, everyone should learn how to argue like that and have to start somewhere... but, when I'm just shit-posting and slamming beers, I am far from being in teacher mode.

With all that said I was impressed with how you handled it. I didn't have the patience to go through all that like you did yesterday. Great job!

[KingslayerC]

Thanks man. Much appreciated!

[Horn_Hog]

@d_bone_steak is it true that you didn't listen to techno for days once you found out that techno viking turned gay?

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Horn_Hog That is true... but then with some thought... of course, a guy that does drugs, takes his shirt off, and then dances around is probably a homosexual. Since I listen to techno and don't do any of those other things... including being gay... I no longer fear that techno music is the cause of techno Viking's homosexuality.

[D_Bone_Steak]

https://youtu.be/K0HSD_i2DvA?si=irt_U8paklmexGDJ

[SnowyOwl]

There's more to life than pragmatic ends, and socio-political revolution.

Even though Christianity gets mixed into politics depending on whether parties believe their supporters identify with it..

The ends of Christianity, or any religion, are not exclusively practical, nor technical, nor social, nor economical, nor political.

That was not Christ's intention, but for man to become aware of their divine essence and strive to embark on a journey of self improvement, hopefully spiritual development as well.

Regardless of politics, we should strive as individuals to seek personal and authentic self-actualization.

[kaucky1]

nope and Jesus never died on cross went up peeked in bad timing should brought goggles denounced name religion covering eye went house lit it on fire self in it just time to turn around walking out looked different both eyeshouse rebuilt different too, went to church no real holy water got outhis own mix put it in there stirred it gas symbol and piece of paper 🔥 spoke another language it caught on fire kicked the bowl over church not even sacred even towns ended up rubble ash all over world no drugs either but kept women n girls though

[Gwendoline]

No more than Islam or Judaism. I think Kamala misjudged the fact that certain minorities are actually Christian and Christians tend to be very conservative in most things. For instance in know quite a few Hispanics from church and they are probably the most devout Christians you could meet.

[MarjorieJ]

And Biden is a Christian, but we won’t mention that.

[Gwendoline]

@MarjorieJ he's supposed to be a Catholic.

[MarjorieJ]

Or all depends on what day it is and who’s interviewing him.

[blueonblack22]

Compared to many modern Islamic countries the church and state are the same thing Christianity definitely isn’t a “political uniform”’.

The crusades, Spanish inquisition, etc have all came and went many centuries to go on this. Also Jesus was definitely NOT a political leader. Nor was Apostle Paul.

[DrPepper12]

Yes. Without a doubt.

Include a caption for you image…

We can also add a weapons fetish, love of confirmity, insular and anti education too...

[hahahmm]

For some it is and others it isn't. Also there are Christians who are pro Trump and those who aren't. Then there's lots of fake Christians too.

So called liberalism has become a cult. You can think of it as another religion.

[ashakantasharma]

Christianity, at its core, focuses on the teachings of Jesus Christ, such as love, forgiveness, compassion, justice, and humility. These spiritual values are not inherently tied to any specific political structure. The Bible, which is the sacred text of Christianity, doesn’t prescribe a specific political system or structure. Rather, it offers moral and ethical guidance that can be applied across various contexts.

[NaultD]

Not as a whole but the evangelical Christian church is very invested. Basically dooms day cultist wanting the world to end. Second coming of Jesus, hell coming to earth stuff.

[worldscolide]

It's the same political uniform as Islam here in the states. There are a ton of them that are trying to enact sharia law in parts of the country, which let me say now.. Will. Never. Happen. Most of sharia law violates the US constitution.

[Agape93]

Let em try. No moral issue killing any flavor of tyrant

[worldscolide]

Agreed

[monkeynutts]

When you scrape the make up the face of it most Christian institutions are all quasi political and financial institutions, throughout history the only way you consolidate power is to provide privileges to those you trust or can control, and exclude everyone that's different. I could rattle off hundreds of historical examples, but it's a waste of time, and not much ever really changes.

[236color]

White American Christianity is not a faith tradition, it's a political movement based on racism.

[thatshydork]

No. I’m a Christian and I personally hate Trump and so do so many of the other Christians I am friends with.

[NewWaves]

What are Christian values? And how could Trump's agenda reflect those, in your opinion? Or not reflect them, to be fair?

[WilliamPamer446]

Eh maybe a little but it's mostly a genuine religion used to bring western civilization back unfortunately used for politics

[Adel50]

No, Christianity began long before Trump was born.

[SnowyOwl]

Facts lmao 😂

[andreasderjuengere]

Trump can't even SPELL ''Christianity''.

He's just using a label that he thinks fit to manipulate others.

[lorenzomichael]

No Christianity has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with a relationship between you and God. That is it.

[RedInnocent69]

Yeah, unfortunately. What’s worse, they’ll let any corrupt, capitalist, lying, philandering, pedo rapist wear it, without thought because they’re so thrilled to get the any attention themselves

[Dargil]

Christianity is the one true faith. Christians support those who support Christians.

[Dargil]

The only uniform we wear are the clothes G0d let us have.

[KrakenAttackin]

If anything, Christianity has been under attack for the past few decades.

[Quigly]

Christianity was around long before the Politics of modern times.

[beefcakebradybatson]

It wasn't meant to be, but in 2024 often becomes one.

[Kingofkings1992]

Christianity existed long before Trump did. Please get off your fake pink account now

[Anonymous]

Is Islam a uniform of self-righteousness used to justify the killing of innocent humans in the name of Allah?

[ClassicDropout]

Yeah Christianity began when Trump ran for office

[SnowyOwl]

the audacity 🤣

[FunkyMonkee]

What privilege might that be?

[soe11]

Absolutely yes

[Massageman]

Of course not.

[PsychicBoobs]

More like entrapment.

[Bklynbadboy12]

I don't think it's is

[Pterodon]

What?

[SnowyOwl]

Confusion, that's what

[dudeinohio]

Not at all

[DtMe89]

Yep!