Why is it illegal to opt out of society and do as you please?

[Deserter2]

For example you can't build your own home and live in it, you can't grow your own food unless you own land, you need a passport to visit other countries, everything requires ID, if you work a job and evade taxes you're arrested, even if the job is off the books, you got paid therefore the government gets a big cut.

[LazerBean]

The only the ng out of the things you listed that is true is the tax one.

You can build your own home and live in it.

You can only grow your own food on your own land, as you said. But of course that makes sense because why would you be entitled to use someone else's land to grow your food? Just like you wouldn't want someone else to be entitled to your land.

Our government doesn't require you to have a passport to leave our country. Other countries just don't want you migrating to them without knowing you aren't a criminal. Likewise for major airlines if you want to use their facilities.

Of course there are many outrageous things the government does, but I don't think most of those really qualify as that.

But as for opting out of society, you pretty much can. The only thing really required for it is to pay your property taxes.

[Darklydarkened]

You need to learn from ground up, what civilisation actually means.

Unchecked, unchallenged freedom is a cute myth. It's also not the case in any society ever since agricultural revolution happened some 8.000 years ago

[Deserter2]

It's a means of making the individual beholden to the group and limiting his freedom for "the greater good"

[Darklydarkened]

Fuck greater good, it's about society and structure of power.

You, as an individual, have the benefits you have in accordance to your contribution and duty.

Elsewise, you have naught. What gives you the right to even exist and be protected? What's the source of human rights, the concept of property?

Even the concept of freedom is completely made-up by civilisation itself. Nothing more

[Deserter2]

You don't have a real argument, you're justifying slavery

[Darklydarkened]

If you think adhering to social structures and laws is slavery, you really need to be enslaved

[Deserter2]

It literally is, I didn't agree to this shit. Why do you assholes think you have authority over other people?

[Darklydarkened]

Because that's what society is. Sucks to be you if you think you should not have any sort of responsibility or if you believe everything that effects your life is suppsed to be asked first

Even the idea of individual freedom is extremely new and it has a lot of philosophical problems intrinsic to itself

[NaultD]

Implicit social contract. Internet is awesome right? So you have to play be the rules. You could go "into the wild" style and die from a wild potato. There won't be anyone to say anything.

[Anonymous]

it's only illegal for MGTOW men and passport bros because men are the backbone of society whether society acknowledges it or not which is why the "male loneliness epidemic" is suddenly being discussed by politicians, scholars and the media. 4B feminists can opt out of society and nobody gives a shit and nor should they

[DryGermanGuy]

In the first world this is not possible anymore because everything and everywhere is regulated. To really opt out you would have to move to a part of the world with minimal regulation (and accept all the downsides as well).

[exitseven]

This is why people move to northern Maine. There are not as many rules. You can shoot deer in your backyard and drive drunk as long as you don't kill anybody.

[MK1997]

We are all slaves