



*With as much condescending deadpan sarcasm as possible*
Oh no, please don't. Stop. So many Christian conservatives, faithfully married men, and red-pillers are depending on you.
Thank you for MHO š
Sure no prob
Very easy to ignore
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4B Movement, I believe it is founded on truth. You canāt tell these women that the tables arenāt turned against themā¦. A horrible fraudster and possible rapist won an election preventing the first female president then A proven civilly liable rapist, fraudster, insurrectionist, and conman prevented the first female president and they were the same individualā¦.. We let the first guilty convicted felon become US President all because it was a woman in their eyes and I donāt blame them, since if it were Trump who was a woman running against Kamala Harris a man I believe it wouldāve changed something.
The fact is, 4B Movement is founded in truth though the solution to coping with the truth is not founded in reality. Back in the day 100+ years ago, women marched for their right to vote with the Suffrage Movement, women were used to the factory jobs & getting out of the house in 1940s America so much so they stood up for their fellow woman and demanded more jobs and opportunities which got us here today where women are in the workplaceā¦. Instead of vowing against seeing a man, falling in love with a man, or talking to a man again, you should put your time & energy to unionize as a community strong looking after one another with male and female allies alike and fight for change peacefully just like 100s of years brought change!
Isolating yourself isnāt going to fix anything, believe me. As a man, you are strong, amazing, courageous, and you deserve to be heard so be heard in a group. Thank you!
āYour voice is your powerā, so let it be heard!
God Love Ya!
It's a symbol, a social reaction in the socio-cultural context of South-Korea.
ā4B is at the extreme end of the whole spectrum of women in South Korea who choose to stay single and childless. The original 4B is concerned primarily with rejecting the institution of marriage. Why? In a conservative society in South Korea, dating is largely considered, especially by men, the prelude to marriage, and marriage the prelude for childbirth, so many of those who wish to remain single or childless end up not dating, either.ā Quoting Hawon Jung.
It's a symbol, being reused, in the socio-political context of USA, with its recent conservative impulses, aka abortion laws and 2024 presidential election.
But all will be fine, thanks to Mr. Trump's magic words:
āI want to protect the women of our countryā
āIs there any woman in this giant stadium who would like not to be protected?ā
āIs there any woman in this stadium that wants to be protected?ā
The crowd roared. Daddy is here.
The 4B Movement is one of those things that make me wonder how many people live in some alternate reality.
They're talking about shutting down men's romantic access as a punishment for what they see as depriving women's rights to bodily autonomy, but... well... did they think women were just giving it up before? So, this movement amounts to just doing the same shit they were before, but with renewed vigor and purpose.
The only people I've ever heard talk about how easy it is to get sex are people who have never tried having sex with a woman.
I am not participating in it. l am happily married. But reading those triggered boys comments here makes me fully support it! If women deciding they dont want those men and men get triggered by it, even calling it hateful, yes mision already fullfilled!
Those men that care about it are a self finding target group. Because bassicaly 4B is saying "no!" In advance and these boys show they are not accepting a no from a woman. That allone proves their movement right.
I still wouldn't go that far but for those that do, chapeau.
referring only to the current 4B movement, not the original from korea, i'll say: it's pure misandry on full display. so i think whether these individuals take part in that movement or not doesn't make a difference cause either way that group of people seems to hate men so much that there's realisticly no chance for them to find a man who'll even wanna put up with a girl like that. i will say that people who seriously take part in that movement in the western world, need a seriously good therapist.
Sadly, the movement is not very significant and can barely even be called a movement. I wish it were as common as the internet would make it out to be, but unfortunately most liberals are continuing to choose to reproduce.
@LazerBean
agree. A few diehards will carry on but mostly it will fade away
I get the feeling you are a conservative XD
Wellā¦. Theyāre really doing men a favor most of these women would be absolutely miserable to be with anyways. The only men they really attract are turds and losers anyways.
I donāt understand when it comes to abortion why they just didnāt make the choice to be abstinent earlier? But they refused to have self control and slept with any snake in the dirt that would sleep with them. But all the sudden they realize actions have consequences you donāt get to kill your child because you made poor choices.
I would say being done is the most responsible thing they could ever do. Donāt waste a decent manās time as well as donāt sleep with degenerate low life men⦠They should have done this a long time ago.
There is so much more to life then sex but people who are sex addicts will never understand that. Unfortunately
100% depends on the country you live in, hence why when people usually hear of 4B movement it's usually about the Korean Women in South Korea because too many men (not all but it happens wayy to much ) in South Korea are actually weird and crazy towards South Korean Women (I don't know the percentage) have started the 4B movement.
A similar action is to take place here in the US since with the newly elected presidential Candidate Trump in 2025; and many states rolling back on safe abortions of a fetus. Some women in those States have opted into keeping their sexual organs away from men until they are able to have safe abortions of a fetus for all peoples carrying a fetus (since unfortunately gr@p3st go after not only woman but also young girls and both depending on their states have to carry the gr@p3st baby to term of 9 months even if the fetus is life threatening to the carriers body).
Crazy, woke, far leftist, feminist not reproducing/sex over propaganda that their rights are being taken?
If there was ever a set of people who did not need to reproduce or pass their values to another generation it is these people. Let them go extinct. Yeah.
I think it's virtue signaling. I'm all for people doing what they think is right, and if that means not dating men for 4 years I'm all for it. The thing is I have a feeling that 90% of the women in the 4B movement are Lesbians or AroAce, or Bi women with a strong women preference. So I think it means nothing
I will say what I've said before. It's stupidity, mostly because for every one woman that joins it, there are 100 more that won't. Though it is a good thing, it removes their shitty genes from the gene pool, leaving rational thinking women out there to have kids, essentially we can breed the idiots out.
I don't have too much of an opinion. But if those women think avoiding men all together just so they don't get pregnant, that's all their choice. I can't say what is and isn't the right way, but everyone has their own during this time of natalism & pro-life.
I'm not into watching or participating in the stupid insignificant shit dumb bitches on the internet chose to do thinking they are making a difference when no one actually gives a fuck LOL. #StayTogetherGirls #BaldAndBeautiful #4BMovement 🤣🤣
After researching about it, I am here to give my valuable opinion,
I don't care, I look at girls who are emotionally mature and ignore those who are bitter,
If I do the same then I am also ready to face the same kind of behavior, that's all.
There seems to be a presumption that I should care about the 4B movement. But why should I care exactly?
Can't see any convincing reason to do so. This group of women are upset - is that what I should be concerned about? A group of women have always going to be upset from the 1960s onwards.
Situation entirely normal. Same Same.
Works for me... They don't reproduce so it eliminates the morons from the gene pool.
It's a noble sacrifice, they should be given the utmost respect and a heroes burial when they die.
Canāt be a movement since itās not trying to āchangeā anything.
Same with MGTOW.
Alienating yourself from society wonāt make a difference. Youāre not that important.
If these women donāt wanna date thatās fine. Weāll find someone else who wants to.
Free will and all
I support it, itās a good starting point to learn how to decenter men from oneās life and helps in becoming a person who isnāt male-identified (meaning her identity derives from male validation).
I'm a huge fan of the movement, and I fully support those women who are voluntarily removing themselves from the dating pool, and especially from the gene pool, for the reason 4B women do it. They are doing a valuable services to society, and especially to men.
In fact, like many men, I would gladly contribute financially to the movement. It's a win/win for men and society. And for those women, I suppose?
Sadly, it will never be a significant movement and will disappear from the collective conscience of Americans once the compulsory coverage by feminist and legacy media has dissipated, which will be a matter of 4 - 8 weeks, at most. Alas, not long enough to have any lasting effects on the gene pool en masse.
I generally don't complain when the trash takes itself out. Women who are that insane are not dating let alone marriage material anyway, so they are doing men who might otherwise be interested a favor.
Reactionary and short lived most likely.
While I do think we are getting fed up and settling less due to better opportunities, I donāt think the majority of us are going to become spontaneously asexual or gay just because we are mad. We will just be pickier who we date and take longer to accept a partner.
Basically guys, youāve got to stop this self destructive nonsense and up your game or youāre going be a lonely little troll.
Basically just this.
"We [women who were already not inclined to date men] have decided not to get involved with [the general population of] men, in any capacity."
"Oh, okay. So we're now just confirming the status quo, instead of merely hinting at it. Good to know we've got our priorities straight..."

Cool. I'll go find me a girl, that i can love shower with. 💜💕
Okay
I agree with the conservative commentators that its ultimately gonna make it easier to date since the ones your not compatible with anyway eliminate themselves from the dating pool.
I started a movement called ICG2F (I couldn't give two fucks).
Nice
the people who are a part of the 4b movement are being over dramatic he's only going to be in there for 4 years and he's not even in office yet. they act like by giving the power of abortion over to the states that there rights are being taken away which they're not. I personally can't take these people seriously anymore
Women choosing to withhold their genes from humanity? Oh nooooo...
Lol..
I only believe in 7Bs.
Books Before Boys Because Boys Bring Babies 😂
It's just a misandrist take on the male equivalent MGTOW movement.
So it's just incel idiots trying to get attention for nothing worth discussing.
I don't know what this movement is, but those pictures looks like the usual feminism. They can do whatever they want, less competition. Survival of the fittest.
I absolutely love it. They're literally so illogical that they're trying to change the world by dying out. It's amazing. Think of this
okay so now bc of a few women not wanting kids or a husband, weāre suddenly dying out?š
Lol do the math. If you, 4B as a group, aren't procreating as much as those who are more traditional and oppose your views, your group will soon have a much more difficult time finding partners and a reproducing. So yeah, you are suddenly dying out.
there's barely any women even joining the 4B moment, and i think its a protest against trump by the way. the point is to not have a partner or reproduce at all lmao
Lol go look up how it started and what it is.
Also yeah that is the point. . . Which perfectly aligns with my point.
well weāre overpopulated anyways soo
We appreciate your sacrifice
my brother will maybe have kids tho
Okay
Okay, and by the way could u tell me how its illogical? and why do u want them to die out?
It's illogical that they think they can solve anything (aside from financial stress) by not having children.
Also I don't "want" them to die out. I just find it incredibly stupid and amusing they're so proud of the fact that their whole plan is to just stop having kids as some sort of protest or revenge against men.
It won't work at all. Men are just going to go marry someone else and have kids with that person.
So the only thing they're accomplishing is removing themselves from the gene pool and thereby removing their ability to pass their beliefs onto their children.
the whole point isn't only not having kids, yk that right?
Does that disprove my point š
bc some still do have kids lmao, and some r js doing it bc of trump rn
Key word: "some"
The majority of them aren't.
I'd also argue that those who are having kids aren't really a part of the 4B movement, as dating and having physical relations with men is clearly prohibited by their "guidelines"
yeah true, but not many people r in it, and most who join the 4b movement alr dont want kids so they wouldn't have had them either
Okay lol so my point still stands?
yes? i still dont understand why ur against it
Okay cool lol
I'm not against it. I just think it's sorta dumb
the point is to get more women into it, so men have a reaction and actually does smth ab our sexist society
Girl. . . idek what to say. You're American. In the 21st century. Y'all already got "equal" rights with men (which in most cases are actually "greater" rights). Like yes, legally being equal doesn't mean you're always treated well. But please tell me, how have you been legitimately oppressed for being female?
Also if you want men to change, don't boycott all men, start dating better men!! Like seriously lol
im not American. im from sweden. first of all, in america, in some states, women dont have full rights to their bodies, I've alr heard cases of women dying bc of it, tell me one law that makes men unable to do what u want with ur body. and second of all, when every single woman in the world has equal rights to men, thats when weāre equal and thats when feminism isn't needed. in afganistan women are killed for showing skin, they can't go to school, they can't see a male doctor, meaning they dont have access to health care. personally I've alr been cat called multiple times, have u ever? loads of times i haven't been allowed outside after dark but my brother has bc he's a guy and a girl got raped in our neighbourhood.
there are no better men. id kms if i dated a man.
Then why does your GAG say United States? Do you live in America? Then my point still stands, because you enjoy the exact same rights and privileges as any other American.
That's a terrible reason. "full rights to their bodies" what about the child's rights? "Well it's just a fetus" literally go watch the videos of abortions, those videos are super easy to find. You can literally see the babies crying in the womb as they are physically cut into pieces. If you don't want a kid, don't have sex or at very least get your tubes tied. If that fails, deliver the baby. If you get raped, take the morning after pill. If that fails, then you can start having a conversation about abortion.
Also, men don't even have "full rights" to their finances, personal property, businesses, etc etc in case of a divorce (and that's assuming there was no reason for the divorce other than the girl wanting to leave).
"When every single woman in the world has equal rights to men" so is every single man responsible for the laws in every single country? Absolutely not, so that's not even relevant to this discussion since we're talking about America.
"loads of times I haven't been allowed outside after dark. . . a girl raped in our neighborhood" and that's sexism how? "because of my parents" Your parents are literally trying to protect you from getting raped. "because a girl got raped" when it comes to rape, women are more likely to be victims and men are more likely to be attackers, yes. But when it comes to domestic violence, women are more likely to be attackers and men are more likely to become victims. For overall violence, the stats are pretty even as to which gender is more likely to be a victim, but men are slightly more likely to be a victim. So your point falls flat.
So, now that you've failed to show me how you're oppressed for being a female, do you want to try again?
"there are no better men. id kms if i dated a man." girl are you dumb or just trolling?
This conversation is over.
I don't know why it says that, i am from sweden and live in sweden. yes ofc and im thankful for that, but women across the globe dont have that priviledge, and since they can't speak up, we have to. a fetus dont have any rights, its her body, her choice. bro what? when a baby is aborted its like 8 weeks, it cannot be crying. r u that fucking naive and believe that bs?š thats crazy u believe that. yes ill never have sex, thats also why i won't have a man, yeah im prob gna tie my tubes when im older. nope i won't deliver the baby, my body would be destroyed and i would prob be depressed and kms. and if im drunk and i wasn't even concious when they did it so i have no way of knowing? that happens a lot yk. abortion is health care. if a kid isn't allowed to adopt one, why is she forced to have one? wdym full rights? whoās forcing u to get married anyways? nope, im talking ab the mean making the laws in those countries. omfg but idc ab fucking america, not everythings ab fkn america, y'all americans think everythings ab u when women are literally killed for SPEAKING. yes ik theyāre protecting me retard. it shouldn't be that way, i should be able to go out when i want to. okay then its a good thing im not into women then, and if a woman attacked me id at least have a chance, not if a man does it. wheres ur stats for that lmao? ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME? I GAVE U A FUCKNG PARAGRAPH HOW WOMEN ARE TREATED IN SOCIETY? can u not fucking read? god i hate men. how is that dumb? there's no attractive man that is up to my standards, trust me. LAZY, can't even fucking argue, god i hate men.
do i need to write a list?
- im more likely to get cat called, raped, abused by a man
- the gender pay gap
- afganistan women.
- the abortion ban
- women being killed by men for simply saying no
is this good enough or can u not comprehend this much information? and trust me, this isn't all.
I know I said this conversation is over but i gotta come back for a moment
Girl do you even know that in many states babies can be legally aborted in the third trimester?
Also it's wild that you're complaining about "how women are treated in society" while insulting me and cussing at me š
And look up the stats. It's on government sites lol
Oh, and why would I want to argue? I'm perfectly willing to have a debate, but arguing isn't beneficial to anyone. The only problem is that to have a legitimate debate you have to do some research, which you clearly didn't do. So stop projecting š or don't, irdgaf lol
omfg, its a simple google ādoes an abortion hurt a fetusā simple google search. r u seriously comparing the fact women r assulted everyday compared to me cussing you out? what the actual fuck. what government sites, give me a link or ur lying. then do it, yes u might learn smth from it for once! what? u seriously said fetuses cry while getting abortedš and IM not doing research? fucking retards istg
what am i projecting again?
LMAO GENDER PAY GAP š¤£ š š š dudeeeee now ik you're trolling. When you compare and man and a woman at the same level in the same company with the same background, women get paid MORE. On AVERAGE women get paid less because they go for lower paying jobs, don't have the same education/grades, don't have as much experience, etc etc
How about you Google "ultrasound of third trimester abortion" instead?
and thats when yk a man hates women. lmao ok so whats ur source for that info? ill wait for a link. women are literally proven to do better in school at average than guys but ok lmaoš
Also, learn how to read "istg." I said that you'd say "it's just a fetus" (and I was right) but that in reality "babies" cry when they get cut into pieces.
yup i googled it, what now? what r u trying to prove?
bro wdym cut into pieces? where did u get that from?š they pull out the fetus out of the woman, thats it.
Now watch the video and tell me that you still think abortion is painless for the child.
nope fetus : An unborn offspring that develops and grows inside the uterus (womb) of humans and other mammals.
baby : Baby is an informal term that can technically refer to any child from birth to 4 years old, though it's most commonly used to refer to young children before they reach the toddler stage.
straight from google so u can't say anything ab lying here lmao
literally what video?
"and that's when yk a man hates a women" when is that again? When a man states facts and gets cussed out for it? Righttttt because women can't be sexist. . . right. and the source for which info? You have to be specific because I referenced multiple studies and I'm stupid remember?
what facts? u literally want women to die instead of having an abortion. when did i say women can't be sexist? the info ab a woman making more than men on average.
(since you won't believe a word I say)
"Gestation is the period of time between conception and birth when a baby grows and develops inside the mother's womb." https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002398.htm
yes i won't believe a word u say unless u have a source, youāve made that clear lmao. and by the way which point is this supposted to prove? im confused, its js a website telling me how babies r made lmao
Yeah "babies" because that's what they are. Are you going to just ignore what you said earlier about how fetuses are unborn children while babies are born children?
It's absolutely wild to that you even dare to try have a conversation (however one-sided) about the whether or not women should have a right to abortion when you don't even understand one of the most basic concepts about pregnancies.
no a baby is born, a fetus isn't lmao. no im not ignoring it? im js having a hard time seeing ur point rn. ur literally a man. what makes u think u have any right to talk ab a womans body like this? what if ur daughter was raped and was at risk of dying if she had to give birth? huh? what happens then, ru gna force her to give birth to it and maybe kill her or r u gna care more ab a fetus over ur daughter?
I "literally want woman to die instead of having an abortion" uh huh yeah soo. . . can you point out to me where I said that or where I even implied it? No, you can't, because you made it up.
I'm not even against abortions when there are health reasons for them.
For someone who's trying to change the world to make it less sexist, you're making a REALLY good argument for sexism.
ok so tell me, would u want a woman to get an abortion if there was a chance she could die giving birth? so a woman needs to be dying to have full rights over her body? wow. thats fucking disgusting. what r u on ab now?
"they pull the fetus out of the woman, that's it" oh my goshhhh you ARE dumb.
Women can get an abortion at 24 weeks. At that point in the pregnancy, the women's cervix isn't dilated AT ALL. But the baby is about 32cm, or 12.5 inches, and 0.68kg or 1.5lbs. They literally have to stretch out and hold open the cervix and then use sopher clamps to reach in and tear off the limbs to remove them, and then crush the skull so it and the body will fit through.
"istg" educate yourself
you'll never get it. You're literally saying that women should be able to kill others whenever they want. as you said "that's fucking disgusting"
thats literally what they do? how is that dumb? www.nhs.uk/conditions/abortion/what-happens/ only in some places tho. thats why the doctors r there, do u seriously not know how an abortion works? yes exactly? whats ur point? even if they didn't crush their bones they wouldn't survive without a womb anyways. wdym with āāistgā educate yourselfā r u like mocking me orr? i dont get it. yea women should have the right to do wtv they want with THEIR body. ok so when u jerk off, thats also murder in ur logic? no? its killing a potential baby, do u agree?
One moment "they don't cut babies" next moment "that's literally what they do?"
where did u say they CUT them? they CRUSH their bones so itāll be easier to get them out. do u seriously not know the difference between cut and crush?
No, it's not murder when I jerk off because guess what my semen alone doesn't = conception just like your eggs alone don't = conception
Where tf is your logic
its still a potential baby, no?
Lmao okay so you think crushing a living being is better than cutting it?
Dude fuck you I'm done with ts
Arguing with her is like arguing with a brick wall bro. šYou can't change her mind
Yeah I realized lol
thanks for the support lol
Similar to MGTOW only with the added "look at me" attitude vs. a silent removal of attention.
I don't see the women around me following through with it. The 4B movement is a small sect of women who's reaction to the world not running exactly exactly to their tastes is to stomp their feet and pout.
If you ladies were capable of closing your legs you wouldn't care about abortion to begin with lol
if men would stop raping little girls we wouldn't have to.
@chocolatetwopointo facts
Does this mean, they're going to get rid of all their dildos, too?
I almost choked on my drink.
It's cool with me. Everyone should do whatever makes them happy
Something I wonāt be participating in. I like men too much.
depends how bad the men are in a respective country. like if you live in afghanistan or india might not be a bad idea, but if you live in the west no since most men aren't misogynistic

Yeah...
I think that those whose lives are so dictated by politics would not be a good fit for me anyway.
Thereās more women than men so the few that are done with men wonāt matter, still plenty of regular women around to keep things going
No idea WTF that even is. What are you showing me? I just see freaks
MGTOW. 4B movement. I donāt care what yāall do as long as you can make humanity go extinct.
I mean I have issues with the current societal climate, but not so much so that I don't want dick. I love dick. Dick is forever.
Fuck em. If they donāt want me thereās plenty that do
I wouldn't get with them anyway so I don't care 🤷
I think is pretty darn stupid to think this movement will go anywhere!
I just think women and men are equally bad. We donāt need to patronize one gender.
Let me see... I LOVE Boppin' Boyish Buckaroo Brady !!!
Just means more dick for the rest of us.
Now THATS a optimistic practical POV!! ā¤ļø It!!!
Ridiculous, people will find sexual partners
Opting out of romantic entanglements is a choice I can respect. Probably, it's a choice I should have made myself decades ago. Women (and men) would do well to prioritize personal autonomy more and coupling less.
Absolutely ridiculous to cut your hair and abstain from men because your candidate didn't win. Reminds me of a kid throwing a tantrum because they didn't get their own way.
good riddance. nobody wants to have children which such clown femcels anyways
I canāt join because Iām done with everyoneās rudeness
They're admitting sex is the only thing of value they have.
A sad result of entrenched misogyny.
If you wanna do that, fine. I'm not though.
More power to them. We donāt want them anyway.
Never heard of it.
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