Is the net a required utility to live?

[OddBeMe]

Yes

No

[Syntosi]

Being connected has basically become a requirement for basic living at this point. Maintaining friendships or jobs for example is increasingly becoming reliant upon the net and just like the mail service it is something that simply has to work at all times or the country collapses.

[Anonymous]

Of course it isn't. Stop conflating things that you will not die without as being required to live.
'required' means there is no way around it, not that it is highly advantageous.

You only require food, and shelter.

[OddBeMe]

Water. Oh heat if cold. Ac if hot. I mean I could list what child protective services demands...

[Opinion Owner]

Water is included with food and heat with shelter to the extent you need in trade for clothing.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

In this day and age? Yes, the internet is required if you want to keep a great deal of jobs. I work pizza delivery, and if it weren’t for the internet I wouldn’t know my work schedule because they don’t print the paper versions until Sunday and I don’t work on Sunday.

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of necessary things only found online including a number of banks. So yes. The great divide has long been breached.

[molonski2]

Its basically now considered an essential service , but I dont think its " required " . but neither is electricity.

[OddBeMe]

Pretty sure cos requires electricity

[molonski2]

Yes , but neither are " required " is my point.

[OddBeMe]

I'd aruge if it's required by child protective services... it's essential

[molonski2]

Not if you dont have a Child , people live in the Hills and other places.

[OddBeMe]

Sure that's a choice. I'm just offering a metric of essential needs. What the cps requires for children may be a good baseline.

[molonski2]

Yes reasonable point , for basics..
I know I certainly need.

[OddBeMe]

Internet is probably not on cps list. But I'd imagine it's a parents need.

[molonski2]

Well , many now demanding payment this way yes..

[Johnsmth]

As we get more reliant on technology the internet is becoming more and more necessary to live. It's necessary for education such as university, online banking, and many other things. It's pretty difficult to live without it these days.

[exitseven]

/i do not have internet at my summer house. Sometimes I sit in front of the library to get my emeail but I could do withoit it

[ProbablyClueless]

Yeah, I think it is at this point. Even if you're basically a caveman, at some point, you'll need the internet to access some government or company service

[Anonymous]

the 5 basic needs of food, water, oxygen, protection and rest are still the only requirements to live

everything else is a luxury

[OddBeMe]

Heat?

[Opinion Owner]

heat would fall under protection

[OddBeMe]

Protection from joblessness might require internet

[Opinion Owner]

jobs are not one of the 5 basic needs. jobs are social constructs

[OddBeMe]

Earning currency in a society is absolutely a need. Whatever that currency is. How else would they have food water and protection?

[Opinion Owner]

then how did our ancestors survive without currency?

[OddBeMe]

Again the currency was furs, or tusks or whatever. An economy is ubiquitous to wherever creatures are located. A squid rides the back of a turtle and eats the barnacles off its back. I don't know...

[Opinion Owner]

so you're counting the gathering of natural resources belonging to no one and transactions as currency?

[OddBeMe]

Yes like you spouting off the *true" essentials of life... I'm looking for any pattern in life that resembles an economy.

[Opinion Owner]

none of that is accuracy because it can be obtained on your own

[OddBeMe]

How can protection be obtained on your own?

[Opinion Owner]

learn self-defense? make your own weapon/armor/shield? build your own shelter?

does everyone who gets lost in the jungle all eventually die because they're by themselves?

[OddBeMe]

Protection is a third party instrument. That's the whole fcking point of living in a society. So something else protects you so you don't have to

[Opinion Owner]

which still has nothing to do with currency and the internet by extension

[OddBeMe]

How do you pay for it? Currency is taxes or your govt demanded labor

[Opinion Owner]

currency nor the internet is a need. you can survive without either

[OddBeMe]

Currency is absolutely needed in any type of society.

[Opinion Owner]

what currency do chimps use? what currency did humans during hunter-gatherer times use?

if it's so necessary, why are socialists attempting to abolish currency altogether with their promises of free stuff?

currency is just a social construct and the internet is not a necessity

[OddBeMe]

Chimps do trade food in their clans or herds or whatever. Like lionesses doing the hunting. You're pretty bad at this.

[Opinion Owner]

none of that is currency. face it dude, currency is not a need. it's just a social construct

[OddBeMe]

Hey you're learning. Social constucts are a need... in society.

Jesus you're a fcking moron. Took you days to get this far

[Opinion Owner]

funny because it's people like you and those on your side who have been advocating for dismantling social constructs. to dismantle capitalism and replace it socialism therefore removing currency entirely

when everything is free as per socialism, why would currency need to exist? answer that or are you too retarded to realize you want your cake and eat it too?

[OddBeMe]

You think every leftist is socialist?

Not even Bernie wants that.

In communism there were ration cards. Traded on the black market along with coffee or candy bars. Why is this hard for you?

[DrPepper12]

If you said no you're a ignorant self deluded fool. I'll die on this hill

[Juxtapose]

No, people literally live without it all over the world.

[najekim]

IMHO, the Internet is more of a required "conveinance" than a necessity.