I'm of Spanish origin, I was born in France, so of course I'm French, but people in my family left Spain a long time ago to come to France. But without hesitation I feel entirely French and I will always defend France.
Are you more attached to your country of origin or to the country that welcomed you or your family?
You ARE? Oh no! This is quite a revelation! I thought you were a White French girl😂 You're like the most French person on here! I'm not really attached to either to be honest, except when it comes to sports, in which case is the country that "welcomed" me. But I never felt like I really belonged to either and that either accepted me as their own. I don't really fit in with either of them. I'm not Polish enough for Poland and not American enough for America. I feel more connected to my race, to be honest.
To be honest, I think it's terrible not to feel part of a country. I'm French and proud of it, I don't disrespect my ancestors, but for example when I see the wars in the past between France and Spain, when France was defeated it makes me sad, when we won those wars it made me happy, and when we lost to Spain in the Euro ( soccer ) it really pissed me off 😅
Yes, I know that being American isn't an ethnic group, and neither is being French, even if I think it's easier to be Chinese-American or something else than to become "French" because the USA has a different history.
I don't know, you should feel you belong to a country, it's important I think lol.
Personally, I don't look much like a Spaniard, but my father looks a lot like a Spaniard.
I think that makes things easier though. Yeah, you aren't wrong. But a lot of people take issue with the "Chinese-American" thing and all those others. They argue, why can't you just be "American"?
Yes, I agree.
I used to think ethnicity was more important and what defines you. For example I never considered Martinique or Maghrebi people "French", but now I think my views have sort of changed. Although I still think TRUE French people are White. LOL French is a little confusing, because there isn't really a "French ethnicity". It's more a collection of various ethnic groups. Which is why I think it's easier for them to just identify and be labeled as "French". Corsicans maybe being the only exception. But there are many mixed people like Isabelle Adjani, Jean Reno, Charles Aznavour, Charles Aznavour, etc... that I still consider "French", but black people is a little weird. LOL But if we're talking "stereotypical Frenchies", it would be people like Sophie Marceau, Jacques Cousteau, Lea Seydoux.
But Quebecers for example, I think feel more connected to France than to Canada.
The thing about French people, is you guys are amazing at preserving your culture. For example, I visited a "Serbian" town in California, and there was nothing Serbian about it. But if you go to Acadia, Cajun Country or Quebec, you feel the Frenchness.
One lady said she went to St. Martin and the Dutch side had nothing Dutch about it, but as soon as she crossed over to the French side, she felt that she was in Europe.
LOL. I haven't seen your face, so I wouldn't know.
There are overseas territories that have been French for longer than Nice for example, so they are French, being French is more related to culture rather than ethnicity (but I'm not saying that ethnicity plays no role) already for example under the monarchy Richelieu, had said that the Amerindians who converted to Christianity would be considered French.
That's my definition of being French, the one who adopts the culture and makes the history of France, his history.
It's quite funny what you say, because in France a lot of people complain because they have the impression that our culture isn't preserved enough 😂
The Spanish hate the French? Seriously why? Every time I go to Spain people had been nice to me as a child, teen and adult. When I was a child they gave me free lollipop and as a teen / adult the women of the hairdresser my grandmother go to always wanted to find me a Spanish dude to date XD They always said I should date and marry a Spanish guy it was both funny and embarrassing XD
I know some Spanish Catalan dislike French but they also dislike Spanish and French Catalans but I never realized they didn't like us as a whole?
@alice55 The ones in Catalonia do. 😂 Nah, don't marry a Spanish guy. A Polish-American guy is better ^^
Sounds like when I went to Poland and my aunt tried to set me up with Polish girls and Polish-American girls, and every single meeting was a disaster. I only had a guy set me up once in 6th grade
Yeah, it was in Catalonia. That's the only region I've been to.
Catalonia is special though they even hate French Catalan and hate Spanish (not all but some extremist do). But in my experience they're nice people. At least to me they have always been nice, one time a Spanish guy had a huge ham with him and he put it on on the bench and I wanted to sit so when he saw me coming near the bench he put it away directly without me needing to say anything and he must have know I was French cause I was talking to my father so they don't all hate us ><
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Old women like to set up people they love it, my Italian aunt mother also try to do it too, she want to pair me up with a Sicilian case she's from Sicily this is so funny XD After If they're successful they're gonna talk about it all the time XD
In my town, people will take up empty seats on the bus with their belongings and won't move them, especially women. In general, they don't want strangers sitting next to them at tables, benches, etc...
I'm born Australian , live in Thailand , but similar will always defend Australia and root for it ( So to speak ) ..
Had , I been able to get to the US , I would also support USA too , but my heart would be with Australia , and I will always , always be grateful to Thailand , for accepting me ( for the most part ) and allowing my life to be Sabai Sabai , generally mostly wonderful people.
And , I can't forget Dubai for 3 very fulfilling years also.
My great grandparents on dads side were from Germany where from my moms side were from Ireland and although I think both are great countries, the one my parents and I were born in we are much more attached to.
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My roots. My blood. I’m not a spinless one who would abandon my ancestors just because another country welcomed me.
All of my family came to Australia in the 1850's. I don't have any conflict of loyalty consequently. My direct patriarchal line comes from Prussia which later became part of Germany. I do feel a connection to that side and going back further to the Western Slavs. Those guys raided the Vikings which I think is pretty cool.
So I am attached to my country and attached to my ancestry.
I see, so you look like a Spanish woman then.. Nice.. But yeah.. Born and raised in the U. S, and so far it's work out decently... I'm definitely attached to the country in every way..
Yeah I think that the U. S is a great country.. And oh yeah I was saying that you are French but you probably look like a Spanish woman.. 😏.. Then again, maybe French and women from Spain don't look to dissimilar.
My father was born in France, as was my mother, in fact my great-grandparents is born in Spanish. But my father took a lot from the Spanish side physically. Yes, I look more like my mother
I moved to South Africa in 2003 to get married. These days I feel like I'm in exile to avoid my Facebook page and being a white, Anglo-Saxon male of British citizenship landing me in jail for years because I'm not going to accept Two-Tier Queer Kier Starmer the Farmer Harmer turning my home into a caliphate for illegal muslim migrants seeking to "escape" the oppressive regime created by sharia bollocks in their home country by recreating it in my home.
I have been to Paris. I liked it. Yes, I saw the Arc de Triomph. As a child we were taught French as a second language for 9 years in school (my sisters class learned Spanish). I can understand French fairly well and speak a little bit (but you would probably laugh if I tried! <I have a story about that if you are interested in hearing it).
I have mixed feelings about France. On one hand I will always be grateful to them for helping America defeat the British in our Revolutionary War in the 1770s. France provided us with weapons to help defeat them. However, the only reason they probably did it was because they hated the British too and wanted to see them defeated. But nonetheless, it helped Americans defeat the British and win our independence. Our country was part of the British Empire then and many of our citizens have British roots. But the first (well publicized) European to land on American soil was in 1492 when Columbus sailed from Europe to America (which was not part of any other country at the time).
Sorry it was two long so I had to write it in two parts... Here is Part Deux...
Although Columbus was Italian, his voyage was funded by Spain. So we also have some history of our heritage in Spain as you do.
The United States more than returned the favor to France in both WWI and WWII when we liberated France from the Germans. America suffered tremendous losses both financially and in American soldiers lives to accomplish that. I had a family member who was in the US Navy and fought in the Battle of Normandy... one of the most vicious battles in history to liberate France.
The French people were extremely grateful for what we did for them against the Germans. But unfortunately, that seemed very short lived and since then, they have engaged in a number of things that I am not particularly happy about.
So today, I have mixed feelings about France as a country. But in general I like the people of France. They have a tradition of a certain spirit that is something similar to the American spirit and something I can relate to.
We also sent soldiers to the American War of Independence, and read Rochambeau, or the campaign France led to India to deprive the British of their resources during the American War of Independence.
But yes, we did it because it was in our interest to do so, not out of charity.
Most French people haven't forgotten what the Americans did in the two world wars. But the Americans didn't do it out of charity either, but out of self-interest. In reality, each state acts according to its national interest.
I'm full French (except1 of my great grandmother who was Spanish and 1 great grandfather who was Italian but it's so far it doesn't really count). So for me I m fully attached to France
I am 100% Bohemian, with ancestors from the Bohemia province/area/protectorate of Czechoslovakia (now Czech Republic). I am also 100% American and am more attached to the United States of America.
Born and rasied in America. My dad's family has been here since before it existed as a country and my mom's family came before WWI and WWII respectively. My maternal grandmother is the only member of my family not born in the US.
Yes. For the moment I'm doing research on my mother's side, I've gone back to the end of the 19th century, for the moment up to this date on my mother's side all French.
They already are. It all depends on them, do they consider themselves French or Moroccan/Algerian? If they feel they belong to their country of origin, then they should not have access to French nationality.
On my Greek side, yes, I go to the Greek Church. I go to Greece almost every year. I see my aunt and uncles a few times a year on my Irish Italian side.
If you're born in France and consider yourself French, who am I to disagree. But if you're of Spanish origin I wonder did your ancestors fight for Spain against Napoleon?
Never dived too deep but my material grandmother is Irish but its not unusual to have some Irish in you here. I've a welsh surname but it's very common throughout the UK. About 80% of Welshies have a significant amount of Spanish DNA but I've never tested myself incase I find English DNA
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