Do you think the USA should take over Gaza?

[Jersey2]

President Trump wants to take over the Gaza Strip and level it. He also wants to relocate the Palestinians to other Muslim countries. Once the rubble is taken away and the Arabs gone, he will build a series of resorts. Do you support this?

I don’t. I think it would be fine except the Palestinians will have a series of terrorist attacks and the resorts will be empty and some American soldiers will die. Palestinians are stupid AF and they will sacrifice future generations for the dirt that they lost over and over in countless efforts to take some of it back. Keep them in the rubble that their latest attacks created for them and bottle them up.

This will take them two generations to fix for the Palestinians

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[WhiteSteve]

There’s another word for what that plan entails, and it’s something I THOUGHT America used to stand against…. ETHNIC CLEANSING.

I feel like we need to re-read WWII and remind ourselves what side America is supposed to be on, because a lot of us are acting REAL fucking weird lately, and I’m not sure I recognize this place anymore.

I’d love to live in an America where this isn’t reflexively defended and excused🤯

[Jersey2]

Relocation is not ethnic cleansing.

October 7th the Palestinians, not just Hamas, did brutal terrible things. They deserve what is happening. Just leave the rubble. Leave them in it and Israel should attack them anytime they try their shit again. FAFO.

[WhiteSteve]

October 7th was horrific. Israel are pieces of shit in their own right. Netenyahu is a wanted war criminal. This is who we’ve thrown our lot in with, and that’s gross. All because Bible thumpers thinking this will bring about the Second Coming Of Christ, I mean HOLY FUCK, you guys🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[Jersey2]

Yeah I am not into the Bible thumping or the strange ideas of the second coming. I also don’t have a dog in this hunt between the two but the Palestinians are the bigger shits in this world. They get what they deserve for what they have done. They literally fucked around and found out. They couldn’t stop themselves from escalating all the time from rock throwing to rocket firing to finally attacking, killing, raping on a massive scale. F Hamas, F Palestinians. We need to stay out of it and at best ship weapons to Israel to allow them to defend themselves from these barbarous people.

[WhiteSteve]

They have more right to be there than Israel does, and they’re fighting for liberation. Level of societal development doesn’t make you a more or less valuable human life, holy shit, dude…

[Jersey2]

They lost their land. They were defeated many time so it isn’t their land anymore. That’s over. Now they are just losers who cannot win so they kill and rape and look for sympathy when they get their ass kicked.

[WhiteSteve]

[Jersey2]

Yep. Losers who now have no right or claim to that land and can only murder and rape in retaliation. They need to be pushed down and kept down and then punched hard when they attack again. This is how the world works.

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[WhiteSteve]

[exitseven]

Something needs to be done or else Hamas will be back killing civilians and Israel will have to finish the job and exterminate them all. Trump is figuring out what to do as he goes along.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO

[Anonymous]

Yes we need to use our power to bring stability where we can.

[Jersey2]

But if we make it beautiful and prosperous the Palestinians will say it is theirs and attack. Then it is empty as people don’t want to be blown up.

[midnightmoon05]

They will find ways to come after us…. Eventually…

[Jersey2]

The that simply means we must continuously kill them and keep them down in the dirt.

[midnightmoon05]

I don’t have an answer…
as long as we get involved… they will come after us… at some point.

[blueonblack22]

Maybe not literally “take over” but we the “two state” solution does not work. It’s been tried for decades and all does is proliferate terrorism.

Also Gaza civilians are leaving in absolute horrid conditions right now. Are just supposed to leave them to fend for themselves there or something? That will only leads to more hate, animosity and future terrorism.

[Jersey2]

The Palestinians will want it back once the US cleans it up, build a resort area and it is successful. Then they will attack when told no.

[blueonblack22]

If they get dispersed all over the world then the chances of them starting up another large scale terrorism until like Hamas is far less likely.

It’s also perfectly legal to TEMPORARILY move civilians during a war time effort via the Geneva convention rules.

Either way the two state solution is absolutely ridiculous suggestion at this point. Whether or not trump’s idea actually happens you do have to credit him for thinking outside the box.

[Jersey2]

Bin Laden’s terrorists came from all over and joined together for their common cause. Same will happen here.

[blueonblack22]

I am not saying I know the perfect answer to all this. But I do know the “two state solution” does not work.

[Caroline91]

@blueonblack22 It very well might work if there really was a two state solution. But, Israel has continuously infringed on the Palestinian "state". www.amnesty.org/.../

[blueonblack22]

@Caroline91 this is a rabbit hole conversation. I do have a long response to that (for the record I am not Jewish) but let’s just lay off this one.

Also I am not saying Trump has the “right” idea but he is thinking outside the box. I mean if you were a native Gazan civilian would you rather stay among the rubble and destruction or start anew somewhere else? There are some merits to Trum’s idea even if it’s not plausible. I don’t think very many countries are going to be gung ho about accepting Palestinian refugees. In fact many countries (Kuwait, Jordan, etc.) have a checkered history of expelling Palestinians.

But still this curve ball trump threw is some food for thought.

[Caroline91]

@blueonblack22 Yeah, not sure if it's a rabbit hole or a black whole. Either way, it's a big hole. Glad to skip this one!

[Caroline91]

*black hole

[blueonblack22]

@Caroline91 fair enough 👍

[lightbulb27]

On the surface of that... HELL NO!

I volunteer all of Trumps kids to be the first ones to go there...

I know better than to stand between the hatfields and mccoys and say "y'all be nice to each other".

[Jersey2]

I agree

[BCA6010]

No.

Also your caption is wrong- it will never get fixed no matter how many generations of Palestinians come and go because they can't and/or won't do anything without someone else (usually the US or Israel) footing the bill and doing much of the labor.

[KostasKouvalis]

I was thinking the same thing. Even if they relocate them, they'll still find some way to commit terror attacks. Even if we got rid of them, they have too supporters.

[Jersey2]

Yep. A big problem waiting to happen. We need to let Israel bottle them up for decades.

[KostasKouvalis]

I think that's the only solution honestly, considering they want to wipe Israel off the map

[DryGermanGuy]

Even with all the fucking dumb ideas Trump spewed out, this one takes the cake.

[Jersey2]

Trump is doing some great things now like uncovering corruption and waste, getting rid of DEI. Allowing girls to play sports without trans taking their fun away but this idea is bad and won’t fly in the end. Conservatives don’t need to support him all the time, that is the difference here as they let an incompetent Biden do horrendous things like have an open border. Germans, Brits, Irish, Swedes need to fix their borders as well.

[OneViewpoint]

Gaza is another fools game of colonialism with the US trying to pick the winners and losers. Because we're so good at that. (/S)

This will come back to haunt us!

[oldpigg]

No, their progressive laws would ruin Palestine.

[Jersey2]

If by Progressive you mean they wouldn’t stone women to death, then yeah it would be. But it is true that today progressives are nuts and would ruin it and invite many suicide bombers.

[oldpigg]

In Palestine they don't stone people. However, I still prefer Palestinian laws to American ones.

[D_Bone_Steak]

We should say fuck it and just take over the entire world.

[Dargil]

I think the should assemble a group of rich nations to clean it up. We should lead that because nobody else will.

[Jersey2]

9 do t want any dead American soldier for that F’ing mess which will always be a mess. The solution is that Israel needs to wipe out a Palestinian general every 20 years.

[Jersey2]

I don’t want any dead *

[Dargil]

The Palestinian Arabs should be resettled to Sinai below a line south of Nuweiba so there's no common border with Israel and they are out of rocket range. Then a collaboration of the USA, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar and UAE should clear and rebuild it. There should be some sort of right of return. Gaza, Judea and Samaria should be restored to uncontested Israeli territories and have active police and military and respect human rights. That is the two-state solution.

[Jersey2]

No. I think the Palestinians should be left to rot in Gaza and bombed when they start their shit again. Israel will need to kill a generation of the Palestinians every 20 years or so and then get peace for another 20 years.

[blackeagle007]

Fuck no. This psychotic president wants an empire

[FunkyMonkee]

Netanyahu thinks it's a great idea.

[Jersey2]

Yes, it brings the American military into the fight.

[Massageman]

I don't think I'd really see that happening.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Why? So that POS can displace more suffering Palestinians so he can build images to his swinishness?

[Anonymous]

Trump needs to start his fitting for the orange jumpsuit

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Nope. It's their land.

[Jersey2]

Nah. They lost it in many battles and wars. Even with the help of other countries like Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iran over the decades they haven’t even come close to taking it. From the river to the sea is just a saying of the losers.

But I don’t like the presidents plan for it. Palestinians are frustrated losers who will convince the young to do suicide missions.

[AnonAndrew]

Hahaha, no thanks!

[Anonymous]

Trump is a genius

[Jersey2]

He can be but these people only know how to kill and die.

[jimmy2]

Sounds good

[Jersey2]

Perhaps but I think not.