Is JD Vance to blame for the mineral deal between the USA and Ukraine falling apart?

[Anonymous]

Yes

No

Other / I want to see results

[Pohjolan]

Both Vance and Trump. Though I don't think that they really wanted the deal that much.

Trolling as a policy has now priority over defending US interests.

Anyway EU will present its own offer and euros can't afford to squander a 500 billion deal to please 4chan.

China might also make a offer now.

[Syntosi]

I think Zelensky was actually saving that mineral deal to make it with Trump because he knew it was probably the best chance Ukraine had to get him on board. Not sure if he will keep it in reserve for negotiations if Trump is going to be like this though.

[exitseven]

No zalensky was not serious about making a deal. I predict he will announce his retirement to the Frnch Riviera

[Agape93]

Partly but you mostly have Trump to thank for that fuck up

[KostasKouvalis]

Not at all. It's Zelenskyy's stubborness. We are under no obligation to provide Ukraine with security. His borders are HIS problem.

[DryGermanGuy]

The Budapest memorandum says otherwise:

Quote:
According to the three memoranda, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively removing all Soviet nuclear weapons from their soil, and that they agreed to the following:

Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act).
Refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the signatories to the memorandum, and undertake that none of their weapons will ever be used against these countries, except in cases of self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

[DrPepper12]

It was a scripted show. Vance played his assigned role.

[Anonymous]

Zelensky is still pissed about not having that fentanyl money to launder

[Syntosi]

Wut? "Fentanyl money" is people money, not nation money. That amount does not mean shit for a country.

[Opinion Owner]

Joey imported billions of dollars worth of fentanyl from China, sold it in low income areas and had Hunter's Ukraine links laundering the cash into off shore accounts

[Syntosi]

AHAHAHA! Billions of dollars? AHAHAHA! Yeah sure, Joe Biden is responsible for the majority of the entire drug trade including all other drugs using just Fentanyl and laundered it through Ukraine. Totally believable and not an insane conspiracy theory.

[Opinion Owner]

He got a ton of H from the Taliban during his pull out of Afghanistan but that was to keep Hunter high for life

[Syntosi]

Sure, sure. Keep believing your fairy tales dude.

[Opinion Owner]

Hunter's been monged since his daddy shipped him to the Ukraine as VP for methamphetamine and teenage hookers as well as the whole dodgy dealing