I've actually come across people who have claimed that a fetus (foetus, correct spelling) "isn't alive". Surely they can't be serious. Right?

[Pet68]

Yes, I have. Even here on GAG. People who are pro-death have actually said it. Maybe they're just being willfully obtuse, sarcastic or something else, but I've come across this daffy claim quite a few times online.

Admittedly all of these seriously misinformed people were from the US, and they've never had a very good education system over there (and now they've decided to abolish their 'Department of Education' as well), but even a four year old knows that this can't possibly be true, so what's this all about? Are they just getting incredibly desperate because they know they're losing the argument?

[HelpfulWoman]

they're not alive in the same way a baby is. Thats what most people mean. Because pro forced birthers love to over humanise a cluster of cells to guilt trip, which is truly moronic to me.
In essence, they're alive the same way cancer cells are alive.

[Pet68]

"... humanise a cluster of cells..."
But many, if not most, of these people also accept the atheistic paradigm that we're all "just a cluster of cells", with no soul, no free will, and no real future. It therefore logically follows that they shouldn't have an issue with murder and war either, and yet they do.
They're not very consistent.

[HelpfulWoman]

XD XD I love how very consistent you are on bend narratives until they fit your vision. interesting how far you take strawman arguments.

[HelpfulWoman]

but anyway... atheist is about not beliving in a big sky daddy.
we're functioning "clusters" (compared to a fetus we are enormously more than that) that can function outside of a host body. There's the difference. Seeing no ulterior goal for the life of a human being isn't this saving argument you think it to be and frankly goes to show you're not here for any sort of discussion that doesn't involve jerking you off and saying what a good job you've done with "winning" the argument.

[msc545]

I have found that some people, usually women, will say damn near anything ("it is just a clump of cells", "It isn't human", "It isn't a person". etc) to justify murdering an unborn child. Pathetic.

[DrPepper12]

Fact averse? That's all true.

[DrPepper12]

Of course it's alive!! It's just not viable!! Dumasses

[msc545]

Viability is not a criterionfor "alive".

[slatyb]

Of course it's alive. So are trees and sponges and bacteria. But it's not a person.

[msc545]

Like this, for instance. Now ask him to define a "person"...

[Dargil]

People create my truth as suits them. Facts are overcome by Feelz.

[SmokinAces2000]

No matter what it is the woman that has to carry it and risk her life delivering it deserves a say. This should be common sense.

[seeyounexttuesday]

my favorite is when they call it a 'parasite'. pure demons.

[DrPepper12]

By definition, a parasite benefits at the expense of its host, making the relationship inherently one-sided and not mutually beneficial. What benefit does the host get from being pregnant?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@DrPepper12 Well, when you’re not a fucking psychopath, you get the pleasure of providing a save and loving environment for your children.

[katiesmuff]

Losing what argument dimwad?

[purplepoppy]

A salad is alive too.

[TamYumGung]

Even a virus is considered a life form.

[Anonymous]

Educate yourself.