Morality is more female thing?

[fuddly]

Morality, following right and wrong, is more elevated among females than males

I was watching video about Nietche's thinking

He suggests males traditionally had power and can do what they want. Might makes right.

Females, with no power had to resort to emphasizing morality.

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I'm not supporting the macho approachI do think it's probably true Eg America wiped out the native Indian and no repercussionsIsrael is wiping out Palestinians. No repercussions. Nazis killed 6m Jews. No repercussions.

[DrPepper12]

Love nietche but he's wrong here

[Jackguyy]

Nah its not a gender thing

[OlderAndWiser]

How moral men are, and how mortal women are depends who you are asking. There are plenty of men and women who hate the opposite sex and are very eager to cast aspersions on an entire gender. And some white knights who will derogate their item gender.


More importantly, “morality” is subjective, can’t be measured, so it can’t really be compared. And why does it matter if more e women are moral? I know that i am a moral man, my wife is a moral woman, and i am generally somewhat guarded in dealing with anyone who i don’t know. Generalizations tend to miss the mark and are not helpful.

[fuddly]

I guess as well as being moral there is much signaling of morality
Hand wringing
But not really being normal

[fuddly]

Being moral I meant!

[OlderAndWiser]

Yes, to really discuss this question in a meaningful way, you would first need to define morality, Then, you would realize that it is something which can't be measured and you can never really compare individual moralities.

[fuddly]

The point I was making is all this morality, political correctness is feminine. Not even female.

The masculine approach is to do what you want and might is right.

[OlderAndWiser]

There is nothing inherently feminine about morality. There are many men who are moral and who women perceive as very masculine. If you think all guys should be like cavemen and just drag a woman into their cave and fuck her, that you are entitled to your opinion, but that is simply a reflection on your own morality/immorality, and not "the way things ought to be."

[fuddly]

Hey forget it

This was a discussion in ideas

No need to drag it down to your level

[fuddly]

Older and wiser, clearly misnomer

[OlderAndWiser]

Sorry it went over your head.

[MisterWack]

Well if men cared about right & wrong in this country, we wouldn’t have Trump as President.

Biden and Trump both stole documents, only one was held accountable by not being in the Presidential race… One had an affair on his wife then paid her off then committed crimes to cover it up which was held accountable in court of law where jurors decided the outcome and now that person is President.

No morals. In an alternate reality where 15 documents is more severe than 300+ including from a second more discrete FBI Search which happened in October fearing Trump harbored more in secret which he did. President Trump actually ordered the documents back to The White House which are supposed to be under ‘NARA’.

I could go on like wanting to host The Taliban at Camp Davids, charging Secret Service per night at Trump Tower also world leaders, and LIV Golf Tournament Deal with Saudis which was most definitely made with connections during his first term.

Hell, if men cared about right & wrong Trump wouldn’t be so corrupt and self centered that he would be likable and I wouldn’t be a former Trump supporter.

[Jamlow]

If morality were a perfect thing... but in realty, human is human and both genders use what they have to survive. No, in fact, MisterWack with his comment below shows what's really wrong with morality - it's just sick when your world view and morality can be as misguided as his. I mean he might be out there vandalizing a Tesla right about now and thinking that is the moral thing to do. People of both genders just need to group up a little, gain an intellectual acumen based on truth, learn compassion, kindness, love... Nietzsche's philosophy regarding morality is a radical and multifaceted critique of traditional Western (primarily Christian) morality. He doesn't simply offer an alternative moral system but questions the very foundations, values, and psychological underpinnings of what we consider "good" and "evil." If you don't see the danger in that playground, I suggest you slow down on the videos about radical thinkers and look into what real people think is right and wrong. You will find quite the variety, and no one seems to claim an absolute except those who follow God. For us to truly grow up and get better personally we need to observe the consequences of our actions, truly repent when we are wrong, and chose to follow the teachings of one we trust. Chose wisely dear Fuddly.

[OneViewpoint]

I don't care much about what dead German philosophers from the 19th century have to say about morality. I live my life by my rules. And I hold everyone, male and female, accountable for their morality and ethics. Beginning with myself.

I've witnessed men and women with excellent morality and ethics. And I've witnessed men and women lie, cheat, steal, and backstab other people.

Who's more moral and ethical? The people who were raised by better parents and the people who have never really had their morality and ethics tested. So the people with empathy and the lucky people who never had to make any tough decisions.

In the Army I learned about the reality of "flexible" morality and complex situations with no easy solutions. So otherwise good people can sometimes be capable of doing some pretty immoral things in certain environments.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Nietzsche is a very radical patriarchal man, and obviously a raging misogynist. However, his observations about patriarchal society thriving off of war and giving power to only masculine individuals is a correct observation. What he fails to acknowledge is that a majority of men derive their identities from women in their lives (i. e. their mothers, sisters, wives, daughters, etc.) and as such make women their living conscience rather than just learning to develop their own. Patriarchal society has made men so arrogant and so comfortable in their sense of power that their morality system, quite literally is “might makes right.”

[Anonymous]

morality is more of a female thing?

lol more women socially rebel against religion than men do and while they can't legally rebel against the law, they exploit loopholes by campaigning for defund the police

their entire premise of morality is based on their feelings which is why LGBTQIAP+ and abortion is slowly being promoted in churches and sexual degeneracy is at an all-time high where emasculated men are being gaslit into accepting infidelity and cuckoldry by wives who threaten them with divorce... that's not to mention transitioning the children to spite the dad

[fuddly]

That LGBTQXYZ is exactly the kind of "mortality" in talking about
That and protect the trees is this political correctness which is pervasive these days
Can't say anything without offending someone

[fuddly]

Morality I meant

[Opinion Owner]

that form of morality is just based on virtue signaling

it's ironic that feminists were calling Vietnam War veterans "baby killers" when the same feminists support abortion

[alice55]

It's the reverse no? Because men are stronger they have to be more moral while women can get away with more since even if theyre doing immoral stuff it wouldn't hurt as bad as men.

Also if you asked my grandfather he would definitely tell you that no women can stay faithful especially during wartime as their comfort are more important which mean women morality fly out the window fast when their comfort are on the line while men remain more morale cause tougher.

[IslaTheWitch]

nope... it's a people's thing... women and men...

[Anonymous]

I disagree completely. Women are no more moral than men today. Nietche died more than a century ago, and the world was very different during his time. Women have no less power than men today, and in some ways more.

[Opinion Owner]

You realize that "native Indians" wiped out other "native Indians" for centuries before Europeans arrived in America, right?

And what evidence do you have that women would not have participated in conquering America if they were capable of it?

[Anonymous]

Well looking at the current generation I can tell ya most of those men have no morals or common decency.

[Gayuglycowardv3]

Women have no morality, they cheat steal lie and abort children with no remorse but will proclaim murder and racism are wrong

[Sono83]

There are plenty of immoral women and plenty of moral men, so I disagree.