Isn't it great Elon Musk is getting kicked out?

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Elon Musk getting "kicked out" won't stop the cuts to all the waste, fraud and abuse allowed by the previous government

domestic and foreign DEI, transgenderism, feminism, LGBTQIAP+ programs are still getting cut regardless

those who scammed Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security i. e. illegal aliens, dead people and other fraudsters still won't be getting their payouts for their theft

[Syntosi]

You mean all those cuts and such that was blocked by the court system? Also it sounds like Trump is going to dismantle DOGE once Elon leaves.

Man, they really did make a fool out of you people didn't they?

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi Musk was never here to stay for all 4 years. 6 months is all he needed to expose the fraud and waste

Trump can just try again or put those blocking the cuts out of a job which he should

[Syntosi]

Oh, I predicted he would be pushed out by Trump weeks ago. It was fucking obvious because Trump always pushes the people around him under the buss. It is you people that thought that Elon and DOGE would stick around.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi Trump and Musk already agreed Musk would only lead D. O. G. E for 6 months

you didn't predict anything. Musk will still be here until the 30th of May. it's a voluntary role anyway

[Syntosi]

That is not entirely true. That limit is a formality and presidents regularly keeps these type of people around through the entire administration.

And yes, I predicted that Trump and Musk would clash eventually and that one of them (most likely Musk) would be thrown under the buss. Because that is how Trump operates.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi Musk is just an advisory role. his job is just to hire the right hackers to find all the waste, fraud and abuse

him being the face of D. O. G. E is better than some nobody who would get targeted by violent rioters and arsonists

Trump isn't going to roll back on cutting waste, fraud and abuse even if he does "kick out" Elon

Trump doesn't care what you or I or anyone else thinks. he's gonna do what he's gonna do to fix the country. same goes for Musk, same goes for Vance, same goes for Tom Homan etc. approval ratings don't mean shit. it's only something nice to brag about but not the end all be all

[Syntosi]

Trump literally admitted that the only reason he did not fire anyone over the signal disaster is because he did not want to give the news paper a "win". He cares deeply, not because he has to but because he is super vain and prideful. He demands adoration and abhors being made fun of.

And no. Musk was not "just an advisor". He bought himself into Trumps inner circle and got that position because it was most convenient as it placed him close to power but without the restrictions placed on official government employees. He was trying to have his cake and eating it at the same time. Did not work out because both of them are incompetent.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi no the Signal leak was done on purpose to root out any moles and put the world on notice

not firing anyone would give the mole a false sense of security before he/she exposes themselves

TDS infected Jeff Goldberg was added on purpose because they knew he couldn't help himself but do anything to make Trump and his team look bad

Trump already fired some NSC staffers and he'll probably fire Deputy NSA Alex Wong next who was a part of the previous Biden administration

Musk most definitely is an advisor. only Trump gets the final say on the cuts. both men are still far more competent than anyone you voted for in this election

[Syntosi]

Oh really? The signal leak was done intentionally? You do realize that this is highly illegal and could end a bunch of people in jail for breaking the constitution right?

Not to mention, if you care about things like Americans in the military then this also endangers their lives for a political stunt. Truly a stupid move but also irrelevant since this conspiracy theory of yours is really really dumb.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi why isn't Jeff Goldberg in jail then for leaking the Signal chat? if it's so illegal to release it, why isn't Goldberg treated the same way as Edward Snowden?

there were no war plans on the Signal chat. just a bunch of random timings with no target enemy or target location doesn't help the unmentioned "enemy" know how to counter such plans. who's lives were endangered? what's the name of the unit, squadron or battalion mentioned in the chat? go on, tell me

the chat was made "believable" enough for Goldberg to want to leak it yet he didn't it was "classified" enough to keep it a secret and tell Mike Waltz about it. Goldberg is the type of snake to get bitten by a zombie and never tell the entire group he got bitten

critical thinking isn't your strong suit when you're infected with TDS

[Syntosi]

Jeff Goldberg has no legal obligation of keeping that conversation secret. In fact, his profession as a journalist even compels him to share it publicly. Its literally his job.

The fact that you even suggest this tells me that you dont even understand what is so wrong and illegal about this whole situation. You are literally clueless.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi it is illegal to share classified information regardless of timing and profession. if you were accidentally sent classified information, you have a legal obligation to destroy it. releasing it is a felony. you should ask Edward Snowden why

I understand if this were classified information that Goldberg released, he'd be in prison right now. this is what you're failing to understand

[Syntosi]

Actually you are wrong. Journalists can publish classified information if they are given it by 3rd party or legally acquire them. Jeffrey Goldberg did not break the law when he was added to that group chat which means it is fair game.

"You understand" is the problem, because you dont. You just think you understand.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi no they can't publish classified information especially if the information is said to put the lives of people at risk...

publishing a private chat is absolutely not fair game otherwise you'd publish your own personal messages right now but you won't do that because you know you're wrong on this

Goldberg didn't publish any classified information so he isn't being jailed. what's so hard to understand about that?

[Syntosi]

Tell me more about how you do not understand law without saying it. Journalists in particular has broad protections when it comes to publishing classified documents as long as they did not illegally obtain it themselves. Even if its just illegally obtained by a 3rd party, such as the case with Edward Snowden, that still leaves the journalists completely immune from prosecution if they publish it.

I also find it funny how you think there was no classified information in that conversation when it included names of CIA agents as well as complete information of American military operations before they were conducted. I dont know who told you this was unclassified but they are retarded.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi tell me how you're not making excuses for someone who should be in prison had he released actual classified information

oh really? what were the names of the CIA agents then? what were the locations mentioned in the chat? what were the names of the targets of the chat? what's the name of the unit, squadron or battalion conducting their mission? answer these questions

[Syntosi]

To my knowledge the only information that the journalist redacted was the name of the CIA agent.

Otherwise, enjoy:
archive.ph/.../...2d5e87b57eac3a097a81564c021.avif
archive.ph/.../...089f43e2f64a420c52fb4c46da6.avif
archive.ph/.../...da812e9f3cea4c8322c15f807fc.avif

Again, just a few examples. And again, journalists are protected when publishing classified information so good luck going after them.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi "the only information that the journalist redacted was the name of the CIA agent" oh how fucking convenient... perhaps it never even fucking existed in the first place

the screenshots you showed only show timings which I've already mentioned

name of the unit, squadron of battalion? not there

name of the location being targeted? not there

name of the targets being targeted? also not there

it's way too vague to be war plans let alone classified information. nobody would understand any of this just from timings alone

[Syntosi]

It clearly shows that you dont understand how classified information often looks like. Go ahead, show those images to someone who has had a security clearance and ask them what they think.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi well that's too bad for you because I happen to have a security clearance and I know exactly what classified information looks like

war plans of any sort need to be extremely specific and have precise details with a who, what, when, where, why and how which is the reason they're so highly classified

[Syntosi]

Bullshit. Then you should know that most classified information has nothing spicy in them in the first place.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi classified information is extremely detailed. that's why it's classified

it wouldn't be classified if had nothing spicy on it. this is information meant to be kept away from those who are unauthorized

you know what isn't spicy? a blank piece of a paper but according to your logic, it's "classified"

tell me what you're supposed to do with information details equivalent to 2 nukes will be dropped at 0215 and 2 nukes have been dropped at 0215?

go on genius, you have the classified information in your hands now

[Syntosi]

Oh dear oh dear. No. Classified information is generally classified because of circumstance surrounding it rather than any actual information it contains. This is just fact. A picture might be classified because of the type of camera it was taken with. A document might be classified because its printed in an ink that is classified etc.. etc..

And claims that you have a security clearance and not know this completely exposes you for being a liar. Congratulations.

[Opinion Owner]

@Syntosi information defines the classification of the material that's why it's called classified information not classified circumstances

the materials themselves are used for identification purposes not because everything on them is automatically classified. all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs. do you understand better?

by your logic it's perfectly fine for a military general to draw up detailed war plans on a piece of cardboard in his parents' basement because of circumstances, right?

by your logic, a toddler drawing on a piece of paper used for printing classified information has suddenly made classified information with their drawings

I could care less if you think I have a security clearance or not. makes no difference to me if you wish remain in ignorance with your TDS

[Syntosi]

If a toddler drawing on a piece of paper used for printing classified information then yes that could very well become classified.

For example. USA has classified the bow and arrow since WW2 because they tested its military applications. Does that mean the bow and arrow is high tech or that the results were spectacular? No, its just a fucking bow and arrow. Its only classified because it was tested, that is it.

Likewise conversations between world leaders are usually also classified, for obvious reasons. Does it mean that they are talking about important stuff? Fuck no. Sometimes they do but they are also just doing stuff like small talk and whatever. Regardless, all classified.

US military satellites pictures? All classified. Does not matter what they portray, if they take a picture of my house then that picture is classified. Why? Because its taken by the military satellite.

Its important here I feel to point out that flooding the archives with mundane top secret files is not an accident. Putting aside how some of them might actually contain sensitive information, most of them do not and for good reason. USA has a strategy of overly classify information so that if someone do get access to the system then it is less likely that they get out with something they want.

If a spy spends 30 seconds downloading as much secret files as they can before escaping only to find out that most of them are cat pictures then that is better than them getting only "the good stuff".

But yeah, I can already tell that you dont know any of this. You do not have a security clearance, that much is obvious.

[Dargil]

Elon Musk will step down from lead Trump role as his 130 day service limit nears but will remain an advisor to President Trump. The ‘Doge’ team set to continue.

[exitseven]

Elon us a temporary government employee and can only work 130 days in a calendar year.