Is feminism actually just intersectional competition from ugly women against attractive women?

[14gurlz2gagonit]

We've all seen it... some non-man having, man hater club affiliate, with nothing going for herself tearing down their own gender through trying to convince women that would otherwise be treated like gold by men into being like themselves... expected to work and pay taxes because they're so unattractive that they're basically men already.

It's no longer about pro-choice, voting rights, working rights, or anything legitimate... they just hate women that skate through life on easy mode more than the most based red pilled MGTOW fucker with a beer gut imaginable.

Think of it as obfuscated hatred for women disguised as hatred for men. They have to be a man... man up... go to work... not get laid with great ease, and thus they hate women that don't suffer the same predicaments.

Side question: Are Karens also feminists?

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Shout out to @DonaldDarkko for dropping this here because it does a good job of defining what I'm looking at as well. Maybe this will help the rabid feminists that said nothing of substance about the subject here and instead seem more concerned with how much I get laid.

https://youtu.be/8IO4Udh75Sw?si=BIENVtFdKdSTveFS

[Cormac995]

Based on my experiences yes this is the case most of the time. Real actual feminism is mostly dead. It's been twisted into something selfish instead of something that was meant to help and support woman. The loudest and most nasty voices took over and turned feminism into sexism basically.

This is actually a really good video on what's happened and what these voices that hijacked the movement are actually doing.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/dkvWG42j7Qo

[Douglas1180]

Feminism was created by, and will always be perpetuated by, lesbians. They got tired of having men wave money in their brainwashed girlfriend's faces, and then that girl thinking "Jeez, look at all that money. I must be straight." I mean, damn, I'm a straight white male and I would sleep with Rosie O'Donnell for enough cash, you know what I mean?

[14gurlz2gagonit]

This is an interesting take on it. I mean it would be a reason a woman would want to control other women. Like 'mate-guarding' basically. When men do it, you can see their motivation to convince her to not like this or that type, so she won't stray with this or that type of guy. Except with these lesbians, men in general and pretty much anything a man would have to offer is the threat against her securing her clams.

Now that I'm thinking about it... it makes a whole lot of sense. They're basically using the same damn mental tactic that a lot of dudes use to keep the clam for themselves.

[Douglas1180]

Isn't everything motivated by money and vagina?

Put yourself in the shoes of an unsightly, butch lesbian. If you don't have equal opportuntiies to get a job, then "the man" is always going to be a threat to your ability to maintain a steady stream of scissor f***ing sessions.

[Pleasure_Treasure]

Is Gag censoring "fuсking" now? Fucking?

[Pleasure_Treasure]

I thought it's like "faggоt" and "niggеr" and "torrеnt". They also automatically flag and report comments containing "trаnny" i think.

[Douglas1180]

@Pleasure_Treasure I censored it because it's not real fucking. Side question: Did lesbian feminists design dildos to be twice as large as my penis?

[Douglas1180]

@White_Nation I think you should definitely message people. "Congratulations! Your question has been selected as "Fucking retarded" by the GAG Content Team. Retarded questions are muted on the the "Live Feed" and on recent "Questions" pages. Examples include left-wing nut job crybaby and tranny shit. You have also been awarded the I AM UTTERLY RETARDED award. Thanks so much for special contribution to the community, and best wishes for your mental ailment."

[Douglas1180]

@White_Nation WTF they deactivated it. That Katy Smurf lady reported my comment that she was a leftist witch. LOL. I guess her grandmother was burned at the stake.

[Douglas1180]

@g-rlsaskguys-system This is a hostile takeover!

[WellBye]

@White_Nation One day, when you go outside and get a social life, you will realize how creepy and stupid it is to create new characters on an internet forum every day.

[Douglas1180]

Be forwardwarned, @White_Nation. Should you or @ngs54 log me into a gay account, I will have no choice but to retaliate and prove to you I am not gay. You will receive a $1000 voucher to a free vacation destination known as 'Slave World," Only it will not be a theme park but an actual Southern plantation, where I will whip your ass so hard you will think it's 1860.

[WellBye]

A black slave would suit your theme better

[WellBye]

Also no need for a $1000 voucher, you can also pay them with bananas

[Douglas1180]

@Ngs54 Don't worry, you'll have plenty of time to cry on the 12 hour voyage across the Atlantic. And you'll be given plenty of bread and water before you're sexually molested.

[January_Sixth]

@Pleasure_Treasure even your posts weren't completely wiped out. Yet white nation was. Despite being less of a troll.

It's all the certain moderator identified as Fe_Male by boobslayer, before Fe_Male even got his first janny badge. I'll have to block them again just to make it to xper 3 and log people out.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

There is a lot going on in the arguments here, and I don't know enough information about any of it to have any judgement.

[Douglas1180]

@14gurlz2gagonit Fe is the symbol for Iron and Fe_Male is the opposite of male. So, it's sort of a codified way of referring to one of the moderators here, who says he's a conservative male from Florida, but is actually a transgender leftist freak from Planet Fucktard.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

... so basically, we have some transgender here lurking around and reporting people and shit? Very typical of G@G

[January_Sixth]

Yesterdsy i acted like one of them. Posted 200 single word opinions and jumped to 799 xper overnight.

Now. I could sinply log people out by forcing them into a verification link of a terminated account. Or create a disgusting one. Which is better?

[Douglas1180]

@January_Sixth I have dozens of those links. Thanks for giving me something to do today besides train sex slaves how to please me with a variable autotransformer.

[WellBye]

@January_Sixth @douglas1180 Rest in peace, fallen comrades!

[Disciplinarian]

@Ngs54 Whoever deleted my account is going to get the whipping of their life.

[Реrverted_Сreeр]

@Disciplinarian they will have a certain "anti_trump" post anti trump shit, but his links to articles will be glitching.

[Disciplinarian]

@Реrverted_Сreeр He is probably a f**king broke ass ex-slave who dedicated years of his life to becoming a GaG master just so he could report conservative white people. F** him and the rest of the woke mob scum who think they own the place.

[Disciplinarian]

@Реrverted_Сreeр 'I will shackle him and whip his ass like it's 1860.

[Реrverted_Сreeр]

@Disciplinarian did they delete @anti_trump solely because of follower/ing disciplinarian? Or have they now blacklisted my ip address?

[Реrverted_Сreeр]

I did reach level 3 with 63 opinions though. I calculated how much mho Jennifer Coom gave me / was going to give by the end of day.

[Реrverted_Сreeр]

@douglas1180 Fe_Male was accused by agrape of trying to sext with her and her friends. Similarly i saw ScissorCado comment that she blocked NathanMindless who is an uberjanny inactive for 25 days.

Who knew that male ubermods are creepy simping retards.

[BοοbSlayer]

I offer to return to these 2023 accounts. The previous login of boobslayer had to be renewed due to inactivity so the new email is tmygmc@tmailor. net

I use the USA address on the privately mentioned provider. I think they might have blacklisted our regular IPs, why else delete us so quickly?

[Реrverted_Сreeр]

Whenever ai chatbots write "who's" instead of "whose", it's understandable, but why does this supposed college educated thought cop fail to pass a lesson from 5th grade English?

Who's adult toys are more realistic feeling? ↗

[Dіlԁοphοbe]

@Реrverted_Сreeр as you can see, I am the 10th clone of Dildophobe. And since i discovered that lowercase L can be swapped for russian character "palotchka", i will be able to create twice as many clones now.

[Dіlԁοphοbe]

@slavebanger the verification link has one flaw: it shows a red warning box "email already verified".

Today i found a better potential alternative in two ways.

once already verified, you can change your email addr3ss associated to a new email address. Turns out, GaG sends another email to your first address as a warning in case if the account got stolen. it sends a link to return the settings to original address which is already verified.

when i open it, not only it logs in, but the message box is green saying "account settings updated."

which will be more convincing that their actual account got replaced.

[Dіlԁοphοbe]

just have to test if it will still work as a link after a few days.

[BοοbSlayer]

@american_dog I was about to ask these but then, if i want to ensure that sueshe sees them, I'll have to make it "first question" on a new account.

[BοοbSlayer]

@american_dawg

[BοοbSlayer]

Do most drag queens believe in germ theory?

[MzAsh]

Nah no one hates women who skate through life on easy mode than the incel manosphere pipsqueaks

[Pleasure_Treasure]

I thought incels and manosphere only exist on the internet. You must be chronically onlime as well to think of them so much.

[MzAsh]

They exist offline too, just pretend like they don’t.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

I mean I understand your sentiment MzAsh, but I'm sort of focused on the ones that are doing negative things to fellow women. Some incel can be ignored, but I think for a woman, ignoring those particular types of women bashing on them for things like dieting, having kids, choosing their own careers, et cetera could be a lot harder to ignore.

You mentioned the internet, and something I'm starting to see a lot of is women bashing back at feminism because they're tired the things they get pushed into by it. It's like an emerging trend that seems to be growing. I suspect it's because feminism is no longer what it was at one time. It's become something else... something that even a lot of women are getting sick of. That make sense?

[MzAsh]

I get what you’re trying to say, but I think it’s less about who’s “harder to ignore” and more about where the majority of the disrespect and vitriol is actually coming from. Personally, Most of what I’ve experienced, and seen other women catch, comes from men. Especially when you’re a woman who dares to hold both yourself and men to a standard. That alone sends a certain type of man into a meltdown.

And yeah, some women absolutely judge other women, especially the ones who’ve bought into trad narratives or are making careers off bashing anything that doesn’t revolve around male approval. Jedidiah Bila comes to mind, she’s made hating on career women and sexually autonomous women her whole brand.

The truth is, when a woman lives on her own terms, whether that’s through career, casual sex, skipping marriage, having kids, dieting, or simply not playing the submissive game, she’s going to catch heat from both sides.

As for your point about feminism changing, I actually agree to an extent. I’m not a fan of “woke feminism” either. Too much asking for permission. Too much performative victimhood. I’m about women living freely, powerfully, and unapologetically. That’s going to piss people off. But that’s the cost of not being controllable.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

Oh yes, your description of woke feminism are the ones I have the focus on. Your brand of feminism as described make up the majority of the women I'm cool with.

As for the woke feminists... I don't think anyone, male or female, can truly be their friend or liked by them since they seem hyper focused on finding blasphemy in others to virtue signal to the wokest of the woke that they are truly woke in some sort of purity trial. I don't understand what the reward is that makes them so want to be one of them.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

There is a saying, "the left eats their own" and I would like to change that to "the woke eats their own." Moderate leftists don't eat their own, but the woke ones do. Not trying to make it political it's just closely related topics that I'm using as an example... think it really points out the difference between a woke feminist and a regular feminist.

[beefcakebradybatson]

"Incels?" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

[Summeroflove]

Here is the thing there is a way to meet women that’s not overly sexual many feminists are hypocrites they proclaim themselves proud hoes spouting off about how body count doesn’t matter but then turn around screaming how men are perverts how men shouldn’t objectively women. Just miserable cows for the most part I would say a good percentage aren’t women you would want to be with anyways.

Narcissists whether they are male or female tend to have one set of standards for themselves and another for everyone else when it comes to romantic relationships these feminists tend to want the benefits of traditionalism. Such as they want a man who has money, want a man whose tall, and all the clichés. However when it comes to the reverse you cannot judge her for being overweight, bad with finances, etc. It’s sexist if you’re wanting her to take on more traditional female roles but you’re expected to still foot the bill on dates and court her. She just doesn’t have to do anything for you.

These women aren’t all women just like there’s bad examples of men there is bad examples of women. Just avoid them and be glad you dodged a bullet. They aren’t worth your time one way or another.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

Well said. I know I wouldn't bother with one, because like you said, they aren't worth my time. I'm looking at them as sort of a armchair psychologist though that still see's they're having a overall societal impact both day to day socially and politically.

[Sirenboobzilla]

Every group has a subset of people that just embarass the very ideology they claim to stand for. Feminism is for equal and equitable rights and treatment between the sexes. Nothing more, nothing less. Smaller groups within that ideology will twist that definition so badly that they in turn become man haters, feminazis, etc. It's all similar to politics and how each major party has its radicals that swing HARD to one direction. It's all quite annoying

[14gurlz2gagonit]

I respect this/your opinion. The hijacking of old movements seem to be the modern trend in my jaded opinion.

[DrPepper12]

Well said 🚨!!!

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I’m pretty sure back during the first wave of feminism, the running joke was “the only women who want rights are the ugly ones who can’t marry into them!” You are an asset to your ancestors. I’m sure they’d be thrilled to know you’re saying the same things they did 100 years ago.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

So I'm like ancient wisdom or just not cool and hip because modern feminists seem ridiculous to me?

[PavlovsCogk]

Just take your testosterone if you're that ugly and nobody will even know that you have no intrinsic rights.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

@PavlovsCogk Right? I mean not all, but a lot of them seem to be self destructive like that and try to coerce other women to be as well e. g. introducing men into their sports, condemning other women for being like traditional women, or encouraging things like sex work or the dreaded 9 to 5 that never ends instead of just being a woman. The college trap comes to mind as well.

[hahahmm]

Heard the modern feminist movement was heavily funded by rich dudes who wanted to weaken the family structure, get kids into schools at a younger age and have parents spending less time raising the kid. Which is probably why now you see some weirdo teachers and pedos claiming they have the right to do whatever they want to your kids in schools regardless of what you think about it. Also heard a bunch of rich playboys way back in the day wanted to screw more women and this was a way to get that to happen with less hassle.

Your idea about ugly women pushing it: some famous ugly feminists admitted that IS why they personally got into the movement.

[jshm2]

Nope. It's all about narcissism, and "pick me" behaviour by women who cannot fathom they are the reason for their problems.

Sure there are issues and laws that are making things difficult for women. No one denies that. But for these "feminists" its not enough that things be addressed, but you must fall at their feet as well, and beg for forgiveness, and offer years of indentured servitude as "compensation" as well.

Bitch, I will murder me to murder you, and put all of us in a cemetery; rather than lay that low for any person.

[Hellraiser1984]

Pretty much. It's all about equality and blame to them. It's men's fault they couldn't get a job but now they can get jobs but they bit h because they feel they shouldn't have to work because I can just marry a rich guy. Problem is rich guys will only date beautiful women. So because those rich guys won't date them they blame all men for it. They call us pigs pedos and rapists as a scapegoat Because they are looking to blame anyone but themselves. Men are convenient scapegoat because we can't fight back anymore. In divorce it's men who get the blame even if she's the wacko one who abused the kids and the guy is a good father. It's always a man's fault for anything these days. Even if you're physically attacked by your wife with a knife because she's a psycho and you knock her ass out. You're to blame. We can't win. Because men aren't attracted to a woman who weighs 300lbs and has the face of a walrus' rectum we're pigs. Women have to much power.

[Anonymous]

I don't even know what feminism is anymore tbh.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

That's exactly where I'm at. I know it's no longer what is in the dictionary for it and I'm pretty sure it got hijacked by politics and stirred into a pot of alphabet people (LGBTQ yatta yatta and whatever) and racial identity politics as well... and then the trans stuff seem to be a part of it, but it's used to let men dominate women just so long as they say they're a girl.

Like another user pointed out, they attack women for doing things like having kids and not putting their career first, or actually liking men... I'm starting to view them as female misogynists. Like women that hate women if that makes sense.

[DonaldDarko]

It's definitely that. Carl Benjamin did a great video on it.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/8IO4Udh75Sw

[14gurlz2gagonit]

As an avid watcher of Sargon of Akkad as well as Carl's other youtube endeavors since like 2015, there is obviously going to be a lot of agreement on things between Carl and I. I'm tempted to repost this video in the 'updates' part of my question here. You would of gotten a MHO if I hadden't already picked them out. Good sourcing.

[WonderingManII]

I think modern day feminism is a problem. If it just helped a few of the major issues that women faced, I would be onboard. But it reaches a lot farther than that. It seems to hurt relationships.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

Sort of like their rage against happy families? They really seem to hate marred women that are happy a bit more than they hate men.

[WonderingManII]

That is interesting. I saw a woman on youtube say something about that. She was a leader, but after she got married, they started hating her. She started speaking out against them. It's controversial for sure!

[14gurlz2gagonit]

Yeah you see what I'm really talking about for sure. Like why did they turn on her and start bashing on her?

I'm not trying to come off as some he-man woman hater, and in fact love women very much, just not those women for reasons I don't fully grasp yet. I'm really starting to think they just hate their own plight in life and seek to bring other women down more than the fake agenda of sheer man-hatred.

[WonderingManII]

I think it is a cult. As long as your views line up with theirs, your in. But as soon as you have a change of heart in something they are against, your out.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

I like that analogy. It's like they get the scientologist treatment when they step out of line. There is a term for it that I think is called "The purity spiral," but I could be wrong about it. It's basically like getting punished for having 'wrong-think' sort of like this video I'm watching where the chick destroys her family for not being progressive liberal like herself. It's sad when these ideologies are taken so serious like that. Reminds me of the religious stuff in the 90's... sort of.

[WonderingManII]

Some religious groups will shun you if you choose to leave them. But you might have a good reason.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

I know right... cults can have some seriously self destructive objectives that no longer makes sense at all, like the koolaid line at a Jim Jones party. I mean damn they tried to hunt down and shoot all the people that just wanted to escape the idea of commiting suicide to stay loyal to the cause.

The ones that willingly did it... just doing it for the cause I guess. Cults are some messed up shit.

[WonderingManII]

That is a very extreme kind of cult. But there are others that damage you emotionally and mentally but they do ask you to commit suicide. But you might do it cause your messed up by them.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

... and I just realized the tie in of me saying "step out of line" (they get punished for it) and a lyric from a NoFx song "cutting in line at a Jimmy Jones concert. ... You're right... extreme example, but I sort of just see the meaning as the same.

[beefcakebradybatson]

And 95% of feminists are BEASTESSES !!!

[WonderingManII]

@beefcakebradybatson I don't think I know any hardcore feminist.

[beefcakebradybatson]

You may be lucky !!!

[slatyb]

Not at all. You should do some research into the history of feminism. Maybe read "The Stewardess Rebellion" or "On Account of Sex". It wasn't very long ago that women in the United States and elsewhere were legally treated as the property of their husbands, or otherwise less than fully competent adults.

[ProbablyClueless]

I kinda feel like feminism has been turned into a consolation prize to let hot, privileged, extremely well-to-do women have an excuse to complain about the fact their lives aren't what they hoped for.

Which is a real shame, because Feminism has done some incredible things.

[Ariesman81]

It is as the Redpill community teaches. They are miserable women who were traumatized by a bad man (or more likely a traumatized mother) and thus refuse to listen to or accept help from a man. Feminists were taught how to survive without a man rather than that their strength lies in there femininity and softness. Most likely by a mother who did not understand herself. My own mother is a prime example of this.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

Right? It's amazing that this redpill community and I (a person that just observes) are getting to the same conclusions. I got no beef with women in general... but I'm noticing some things with particular women that have a particular agenda.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

@Insanitys Oh, here you are some more bitching about me. I'm starting to think you're a cry-bully. lolz

[14gurlz2gagonit]

@Insanitys It is when all you talk about is me. I know I'm dead sexy, but come on... try to hide your affection for me or something ;-)

[Ariesman81]

@Insanitys

Yeah... she did. She became so toxic that she drove my Dad out of the house. Then she adopted two girls, because she couldn't bare to be alone, and passed on her toxic femininity to them. Now my sisters are wondering why they can't find a guy to marry them all while screaming "TOXIC MASCULINITY" when I tell them the truth.

[Ariesman81]

@Insanitys

What's my dad got to do with it? He just got fed up with her shit. The fucking he was getting wasn't worth the fucking he was getting.

[Anonymous]

Not all feminists are physically unattractive, but they're all ugly on the inside.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

That's what I gather from my interactions with them... I'm just poking fun at the looks part, but they sure do tend to be nasty people in conversation or in general. Thus why I suspect they hate women more than men that hate women... like a form of control.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

Just thinking about it... I think there are a couple examples of the 'ugly on the inside' ones here that responded to my question. Damn they're nasty.

[alice55]

You wish xD

A lot of attractive women are also feminist but usually they're not extreme one.

[alice55]

And the most conservative women are usually older' fatter ladies.

[Anonymous]

Labels. Current people like labels. It comforts them in some way to stick people in boxes, even if grossly inaccurate.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

I agree to a point, but labels are human's way of categorizing things. SSN #'s and names in alphabetical order were my stapel when I was basically human resources in the military. It's necessary in the computer files I used to generate for the command and sometimes as high up as the secretary of defence. You can't get accurate at all without it entirely as well.

For example if some admiral would asked for data on who speaks what languages, and how well with all the details... I'm not going to go individually one by one to figure it out. That, would truly be retarded when I still have other reports to make on my desk. I still like to go home at night just like everyone else does instead of add that many hours to my schedule.

[DrPepper12]

No

Yes

You don't understand feminism.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

Correct bro... I usually don't ask questions if I already understand. It doesn't match what the definition in a dictionary is anymore, so I'm wondering what it's (feminism) about now...

[DrPepper12]

Never changed. Equality of opportunity. Objectivity. Stop mansplaning. Respect.

[14gurlz2gagonit]

So to about the so called feminists that hate other women for not going beyond what you described? Like the including of non-women in intersectionalism and the disrespect towards women that just want the things you described.

[zagor]

That would make sense if all feminists were unattractive but that is just not the case.

[beefcakebradybatson]

In part (Boys, have you ever seen a gorgeous feminist?), but mostly to highlight the oppression of women.

[DrPepper12]

Yes. Dozens

[Jennz6]

Only a man would say that

[14gurlz2gagonit]

My dingus made me do it.

[Dongie]

Correcta-mundo!