Do you think abortions and pregnancy would be looked at differently if men were the ones who got pregnant?

[chocolatetwopointo]

[4ngelic]

probably. a lot of the anti abortion sentiments and all that stem from a time when women didn't have many rights. if men were the pregnant ones, abortion probably would have never been illegal since they were the ones with the power and it impacted them directly. people in general care less about what others go through if they can't relate themselves.

[msmissydc]

Yes, it would be a universal right and anyone speaking against it would be called a misandrist.
Also for most religions live would begin at birth and not earlier.

[AviatorTom]

Of course. If men were the ones to get pregnant, pregnancy (gestation) would last no more than 2 weeks and labor would be over in 15 minutes. That's all us men could handle.

Mother Nature was very smart in giving pregnancy and childbirth to females.

[Miristheiss]

Right?

How did doctors decide it was ethical to go and kill a developing baby. What happened to the pledge "first do no harm"?

Just like cutting off healthy breasts and penises on trans people?

Most doctors have lost their souls.

[Anonymous]

No, abortion isn't about wanting to control a woman's body, it's about protecting the life of an innocent being who never asked to be conceived. If men we're the one's to get pregnant, I'd still be pro-life, even if I got pregnant I'd still be pro-life.

[DrPepper12]

ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY. If men had to Bear the burden of femininity there would be a paid week off every year along with paid leave for maternity and thousands of other benefits that would.

[Anonymous]

Absolutely.

Especially for Americans, then perhaps they'd get proper parental leaves. It would be less dangerous being pregnant since resources would be put into making it safer.

[BCRanger10]

No, the debate would be exactly the same except for the sex swap. And there would still be plenty of men opposing abortion anyway.

[chocolatetwopointo]

right.

[BCRanger10]

Yes. It is right. See? We finally agree on something 🙌

[chocolatetwopointo]

sure

[BCRanger10]

Where am I going wrong then?

[Stevepro68]

It's so obvious we didn't even need to talk about it.

[Apple1996]

Men are so crazy they'd be giving themselves abortions for fun. It'd be a cool hobby like fishing

[Agape93]

Fetus fishing

[Apple1996]

@Agape93 omg 😆

[Agape93]

🎣 👶

[ProbablyClueless]

No. Men (and really society in general) care way less about controlling women than a lot of women seem to think.

[chocolatetwopointo]

says the man ofc

[Sunrising]

There would be no natural births, so there would be more operations, even for abortions. I can also see problems of becoming pregnant too.

[Anonymous]

That is like the saying. “ If your aunt would have testicles, she would be your uncle!”
If men were the ones to get pregnant. They would be a woman! The impregnators. Would be men! Same scenario.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so u think if men were the ones who got pregnant abortion would still be illegal etc?

[Opinion Owner]

How many states are abortions illegal in at this time? Not an argument. Just a question.

[chocolatetwopointo]

what does the us have to do with this? the world doesn't revolve around america. on the other hand, there's loads of COUNTRIES that have banned abortion, want examples?

[DonaldDarko]

No idea, the anti abortion stuff typically comes from religious nuttery.

[Staximus]

The whole world would be a different place and we would probably have less than half the population we do now

[chocolatetwopointo]

why do u think that

[Staximus]

Because if men as we exist now were the ones who got pregnant, they would be having a lot more abortions. Men don't have that motherly nurturing instinct. That evolved over a million years.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and if they did have that?

[Staximus]

The world would be a better place because men would not be so violent and ready to kill each other because they would have that motherly instinct

[Staximus]

Women are the only reason why this world has not been turned into a giant pile of fire, smoke, and ashes

[chocolatetwopointo]

onfg. and how did u get that conclusion?

[Staximus]

Which one

[chocolatetwopointo]

last one

[Staximus]

Because us men are fucking idiots and ready to kill each other over stupid shit like imaginary lines on a map. Without women talking some sense and having a heart, men would have burned this world down a long time ago

[chocolatetwopointo]

mhm riiight.

[Staximus]

It's the motherly instinct. Women don't want all the trees burned down and all their children dying in a stupid war

[chocolatetwopointo]

id love to see ur sources ab all of this

[Staximus]

If you don't believe me then you are a ding dong

[chocolatetwopointo]

LMAO

[Staximus]

I don't need any sources, it's human nature. If you don't know human nature then you've got a lot of growing up to do

[chocolatetwopointo]

im not questioning human nature, js the fact u said men wanna ruin everything, but if i said that id be called a bitch

[Anonymous]

I think if that was the case men wouldn't get pregnant by mistake

[chocolatetwopointo]

why?

[PeterLegg91]

To me gender doesn't and wouldn't change anything, but there are idiots out there that would think that

[Anonymous]

Probably not, if anything society would probably be more prolife. Women don't care about men and men care about protecting weaker people.

[chocolatetwopointo]

men do not care ab protecting weaker people bffr💀

[Opinion Owner]

Those aren't men those are boys.

[chocolatetwopointo]

men = boys over 18
boys = men under 18
stfu with that crap.

[Opinion Owner]

Legally speaking you are correct; socially a man child, aka a boy, is someone who doesn't look out for weaker members of society.

[chocolatetwopointo]

nope. stop with that bullshit just stfu.

[Opinion Owner]

Can you please use an actual argument?

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes, that saying is bullshit. ”those r not men, those r boys” like just shut the fuck up. i already explained what a man and a boy is. men shouldn't ”protect” women like they’re kids.

[Opinion Owner]

And I countered your argument with a well accepted idea that socially males don't become men by achieving a particular age; but rather by reaching a certain mindset that is productive for society. As opposed to the mindset of a juvenile male that is often destructive towards that same society.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes they do, whoever said anything else is lying to u. women dont need protection.

[Opinion Owner]

So your saying basic sociology is a lie?

[Opinion Owner]

You're*

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym ”basic sociology” thats complete bs and something y'all men brainwashed eachother to believe, go touch some grass

[Opinion Owner]

Sociology 101.

[Anonymous]

Men are expected to die for their family so in your bizarro world men would be required to make the same sacrifice. Women would rightfully cry deadbeat and murder at men who did

[chocolatetwopointo]

says nobody ever?

[Opinion Owner]

That is the entirety of human history. Men go through hell to protect their family and women go through hell to bring it into the world. Life requires sacrifices and we would be nothing without those sacrifices. Self pitying because it's hard is pointless.

[chocolatetwopointo]

well its 2025. men leave women ALL THE TIME. none of y'all will die for ur family we both know that.

[Opinion Owner]

And women get abortions and neglect their children. My point is that struggle used to be necessary for survival regardless of whatever form it might've took

[chocolatetwopointo]

men also neglect their children.

[Godihateyou]

No. Men don't compromise on principles over something as simple as pregnancy

[Agape93]

100%. They'd be all in favor of it.

[Pohjolan]

Then they wouldn't be men.

[chocolatetwopointo]

what r u on ab now?

[Pohjolan]

@chocolatetwopointo
Its a stupid question is what I'm saying.

[chocolatetwopointo]

keyword ”if”

[WhiteBoyChill]

No. Why would it be?

[chocolatetwopointo]

bc men r priviledged.

[WhiteBoyChill]

In what ways? I’ve literally been seeing the opposite in society

[chocolatetwopointo]

in basically every way..

[WhiteBoyChill]

Ok. Can you be any more specific?

[chocolatetwopointo]

men can easily leave a pregnant woman and not pay child support etc.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Ok. But women can also easily sue a guy for child support even without a paternity test.

[Anonymous]

You seem like a female

[chocolatetwopointo]

obviously?

[Aldan1609]

Yeah, I bet they would

[andy530]

Not really

[chocolatetwopointo]

why?

[andy530]

I just think the same issues would be prevalent if males were the ones who gave birth

[chocolatetwopointo]

right

[Sal_Monella]

Nope.

[In_Trance]

No i don't