
Do you agree or disagree with Hillary Clinton when she says a Republican female president would be a ‘handmaiden to the patriarchy’?


I mean…. Republicans aren’t exactly good to women. They expect all this weird TradWife bullshit out of them, etc.
Republican women are usually white, and often from less socially and culturally evolved areas of America. And people often have a tendency to promote the aspect of their identity that they think will make them the most powerful.
In these parts of America where they suffer from retardation of their cultural development especially, being a woman doesn’t carry much power…. but being white DOES. So they roll with whatever the white dudes say, on some “pick me” shit, but it also probably gives them psychological comfort and strength to talk shit about “minorities” or whatever bullshit they’re on about. They deal with riding sidecar on the gender side of things, but the strength in their whiteness sustains them.
In more sophisticated areas of the country, you aren’t held back as much by being a woman, so those women will be less inclined to cling to their whiteness as a crutch to feel powerful. They’ll be more likely to champion feminism, etc, they don’t need their whiteness.
Of course there are exceptions to these rules, but that’s a trend I’m noticing.
So let me get this straight, WhiteSteve: when a woman chooses to be conservative, it’s not because she actually believes in the values—it’s because she’s psychologically stunted, socially underdeveloped, or clinging to whiteness for power?
That’s not analysis. That’s condescension dressed as progressivism. You’re not empowering women—you’re infantilizing them unless they conform to your ideology.
Ironically, you sound exactly like the patriarchal snob you think you’re critiquing: preaching superiority based on geography, race, and political tribe while pretending it’s about empathy.
Maybe—just maybe—women who vote Republican are capable of thinking for themselves. And your refusal to accept that says more about you than it does about them.
- Eva ♥️
Well, frankly, I do believe something has to be seriously psychologically damaged for a person to be MAGA-brand-conservative, specifically, regardless of gender or any other demography. It’s an ideology unlike any I’ve seen before, and certain aspects require such a drastic departure from empathy or even the Christian values conservatives claim to champion, that it’s hard to view it as anything short of either mental illness or true evil residing in their soul. I don’t have any kids, but if I did, and my only two babysitter options were a known pedophile or a MAGA supporter, I’d just cancel my plans altogether. I would never let my child be around someone like that.
There are certain things that should just be seen as objectively bad, no debate. We can’t play these silly philosophical games of “but who decides what’s right and wrong?” I have literally had conversations where someone argues that it’s ok and natural to be racist. What? Like seriously…WHAT? That’s an argument that doesn’t deserve oxygen, not to stop the conversation, but to save us all those minutes of our lives, because that’s simply fucking stupid.
I don’t mean to be pretentious or snobby or condescending to anyone or anywhere. Some of my favorite liberal commentators are DEEP Southerners, several of them. But I’m also done pulling punches. MAGA says unconscionably rude things all the time, and act all indignant about their right to free speech and call people snowflakes if you say boo about it, so I’m just not going for it when they get their feelings hurt because I told a harsh truth. All the acting like you’ve been shot, and the cries of “sO mUcH fOr ‘ThE ToLeRaNt LeFt’!😭😭😭”….. we’re done letting that ride.
I don’t oppose conservatism in every aspect, but it’s taken on an egregiously bad turn in a lot of areas, in ways that kind of fall under that umbrella of “this should be universally recognized as bad”, because in what fucking world could it possibly be good?
And that’s kind of my overall issue: conservatives, at least MAGA conservatives, have just straight up left Planet Earth’s reality, and they live in this fabricated alternate existence in their minds that doesn’t comport with obvious real life.
As far as women themselves…. I’m not infantilizing them, I’m saying they’re succumbing to local peer pressure in a lot of ways. I think unhealthy hyper-Christianity is also to blame for a lot of evils on the right. There are people who think LGBTQ people are sinners against god, and think that the United States, specifically, is special and divinely ordained by god himself…. if you removed religion from that and replaced it with some other kind of supernatural folklore, you’d be committed to psychiatric care.
And men and women alike believe in that stuff and push it, to the detriment of our society and the innocent citizens who are being wrongly demonized by religious people for religious reasons. I hear all these MAGA voters with these crazy ass positions that directly and deliberately make life suck for certain people, and their reasoning is “well, because the Bible says…”.
Bro, or sis, as the case may be…. the rest of America can’t be dragging you as an anchor, kicking and screaming the whole way, hindering us from evolving and advancing into the world of the future just because of someone’s supposed-to-be personal, and most importantly PRIVATE, beliefs, just because they’re idiots who think kids can “learn” to be gay and they yelled the loudest at some town hall or school board meeting.
Conservatives had to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the slavery era, conservatives had to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the Jim Crow era or pre-women’s suffrage era, and we just can’t keep fucking doing this, guys, PLEASE. History always remembers you as being wrong, save some face.
Some people are gay, some are trans, some are brown-skinned and speak a different language than you, some people came here from different countries, some people like to put a little maple syrup in their hair when they’re having a rough week, “whaddaya think holds it up, Slick?”
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Suck it up and move on with your day. You’re not entitled to feeling completely comfortable in or satisfied with all situations, no one owes you that.
None of this has to be specific to certain regions, but certain regions undeniably and demonstrably do tend to be about it, that’s all. And in this particular case, I find that alarming, because again, I’m not doing the whole “but who’s to say?” thing.
I can totally accept that conservative women are acting on their own accord. But “thinking”…. I don’t feel like conservatives do a whole lot of thinking, and that’s WHY they’re conservative. I don’t mean that as a “you’re stupid” insult, I mean that literally, like they don’t think things all the way through.
I heard a great quote from some rando on a Tik Tok compilation I saw on YouTube. He basically said: “I always thought it was just older generations who were conservative. But as I get older and my peers and I start to get around 30 and start paying attention to politics, I see some people my age going conservative. And I realized something: if you hear about some societal problem, and you don’t think about it deeply and just viscerally react, then the result is “the right wing response.””
And I was like “DANG, that’s actually so true.” I hear problems and think not about how to handle the punishment, say, a criminal who as just been arrested, but rather I think bigger than that, like “where is this person from? What led them down this kind of path? What psychological trauma have they suffered, and what could we be doing better as a society so that, years ago, when the guy was just a kid, someone or some institution probably failed him or quit on him when he needed them most. What needs to be done to combat that, so that we can make strides towards improving the outcomes not just for this person, but for everyone that came up under-served and/or facing discrimination? We can’t just operate with this shallow-end-of-the-brain-pool of “welp…. they should’ve made better choices.”
Bottom line: we know the ugly side of Trump, anyone who’s intellectually honest does. His ugly side, both personally and politically, is worse than anyone else I can think of who held the office, to a disqualifying degree.
@WhiteSteve
You started this by painting conservative women as culturally stunted and psychologically damaged. And now you’ve doubled down by calling every MAGA supporter—millions of Americans across race, gender, and class—“mentally ill or evil,” and suggesting you’d rather leave a child with a pedophile than a Trump voter. That’s not passionate disagreement. That’s dehumanization.
You accuse conservatives of lacking empathy while calling them monsters. You talk about unity while declaring half the country a plague on progress. And you lecture about the need to “think deeper”—but your entire analysis reduces people to stereotypes and strawmen. You don’t want to understand conservatives. You want to condemn them so you can feel righteous.
You think Trump is uniquely disqualifying? Fine. Argue that. But when you claim every MAGA voter is a danger to society and unfit for basic civic participation, you’re the one sounding authoritarian. “They must be dragged into the future”—is that your plan for national unity?
You say you believe in progress. So do I. But progress isn’t made by declaring the people who disagree with you too broken or stupid to be part of the conversation. It’s made by actually having the conversation.
—Eva ❤️
See this is what I'm talking about. You sick Democrat fanatics (I know you will never admit that you are a leftist even through your ideologies are as far left as possible, but I understand why are you ashamed of it.) don't believe in individualism. This is one of the reason why your party is mentally ill these days. Why don't you go out and burn some Teslas, or punch someone in the face who wears a MAGA hat? We all know that a lot of people on the "tolerant left" only cares about environmental protection, and being a kind soul, if everything goes in your way, and your party leaders are at power.
By the way, if you don't control who enters into your country, you don't have a country. Just for a fun fact.
Sorry, was away on vacation….
First off, everything I said: where’s the lie? Like what if what I said specifically is wrong? I feel
Like this happens all the time, I specifically attack attitudes I think are foul, and there’s rarely a defense of the attitudes as NOT being foul, but more just a vague “right” someone has to hold these foul attitudes. And how in the world are we unable to agree that it’s foul? Giving other people a hard time when they aren’t actively, intentionally, and directly fucking with you is wrong. It’s not ok to “have a problem with” groups just living their lives. How is this a debate?
Everything I’ve said, no matter how you try to reduce it to me just mindlessly condemning people, is based on information provided to me by the people in question. It brings me no joy to denigrate, or as you claim, “dehumanize” anybody, anything, or anywhere. But the very nature of my objections to conservatism IS that I find current-day conservatism, particularly of the MAGA variety, to be a dehumanizing movement in and of itself, like that’s one of the core tenets. Not in so many words, of course, but still fairly poorly-cloaked. The left wing is just letting life happen, it’s MAGA that’s always trying to fuck with some group or another, not letting them live their lives.
And I’m happy to let you live YOUR life, just stopping short of the point where your life desires take you to telling other people who aren’t you that they have to be this or that that be accepted or get the same shot in society as the rest of us. I think stuff like anti-LGBTQ sentiment is one of the worst and most primitive and outdated things about religion, but if you just silently have a problem with it and don’t manifest to the rest of us, I wouldn’t say anything to you. Just don’t tell people out loud that what they’re doing is wrong, because it’s only wrong TO YOU and based on iffy stuff like religion that we can’t reasonably verify enough to uniformly form our social practices around it. If you secretly don’t like gay people, that sucks, and it’s kind of dumb if it’s based on unverifiable concepts like religious beliefs, but if you don’t outwardly show it, I’m not gonna eat your lunch for that. Showing it outwardly is being an asshole and a bad human, that’s different, and that won’t be politely hosted, nor should it be. I was just at a concert last night, a couple young gay bros were like 20 feet in front of me, they were kind of canoodling at times…. and good for them. I was fine, I didn’t evaporate into dust or melt down into a puddle because two men kissed in front of me. I just thought the same as I would of a straight couple. “Oh, that’s nice, they seem so in love. Good for them.”, and I just went about my day. I probably didn’t even look over again, who cares. It’s unfortunate that those two guys might be beaten half to death if they did that in certain places, that’s disgusting on a human level, and in no way and with no possible theistic encouragement, would I ever think that was right. How could that argument even be made?
I’m sorry if this hits personally, but Trump is only able to do Trump things because Americans said he could. Our people own this and should be held accountable. This is the biggest black eye on our country since Jim Crow, and slavery before it. This a complete departure from anything resembling reasonable standards. If we were under President Mitt Romney or something right now, we aren’t having this conversation. That’s a normal Republican, who I can disagree with til the cows come home, but he’s ultimately a good and decent man, at very least by comparison to Trump or anyone involved with MAGA.
So, I don’t care if it hurts feelings. “Fuck your feelings”, that’s you guys’ line, right? I was soft about it the first time around, tried to be understanding, but I have never been more convinced that I’m surrounded by absolutely morally bankrupt individuals than I am after this past election. Politics aside, even being able to look at this guy as a man and say “yeah, this is a good idea”…. you should literally be disenfranchised for that, not because it goes against my politics, but because that goes against everything any human with a decent soul in their chest should be. It IS a case of being ignorant and/or evil. I’m all out of other explanations. You either don’t grasp what’s going on, or if you DO grasp it and think it’s a good thing, you should burn in an eternal pit of fire, if such a thing exists. It’s THAT serious and the belief system is THAT deviant. We’re past the days of arguing about tax rates and budget expenditures, that ship sailed a decade ago.
One thing Joe Biden had right: we are in a battle for the soul of America. It’s to a point where I’m not sure if I can die in the country I was born in, because my neighbors are so bad, I just can’t bear to have my good name associated with them. This is like saying “What should we have for dinner? I’m in the mood for pizza.”, and the other person says, “hmmm…maybe…. but what if we instead just murdered a random person and threw them on the BBQ instead?” I’m not saying you guys are cannibals, but your MAGA suggestions are THAT level of egregiously crazy, like these things shouldn’t even be pushed onto the table for discussion, let alone be seriously considered, yet y’all seem to think it’s normal as shit. So how do I read that as anything BESIDES insanity? I’m not sure what kind of progress you’re after, but that’s not fodder for serious conversation you’re bringing to us.
But this is way more of a problem with Americans WANTING what MAGA is selling. That’s stain won’t wash out, even in ten more years when Trump is likely dead, we have to wear that, and hopefully be in a mood to make amends for this horrible trangression.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man I’m an independent on the voter rolls, but I’m accepting “leftist” more and more just to not ever get embarrassingly confused with a right winger. Thats the only thing that could make me feel shame. “Leftist” tells me that you prioritize being unselfish and being a good human, which is pretty much the whole goal of life in general. How anyone could find fault with that, I’ll never understand.
If we aren’t guided by kindness of our souls, what are we even living for? That’s maybe the most alarming thing you’ve said here, that a kind soul isn’t a top priority. YIKES.
“The tolerant left”…. I mean, yeah. The only intolerance is of intolerance itself. I will always fight others’ intolerance, because I’m a good person, and that’s what good people do.
Somehow we hopped onto border security, but ok. Remember borders are imaginary lines only observed by humans, which renders them pretty invalid, conceptually. Humans are animals, and we’re the only animal that pays any attention to that. They can serve some function, but ultimately there are no countries in reality, just Earth-at-large. We’re all Earth citizens, in truth, the nationalities are fabricated.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man I acknowledge their existence and that we’re operating under the idea of that to some degree, but Earth-reality trumps human-reality at all times, we can’t ever lose sight of that.
But with that said, I have no problem with immigration being a process, not deporting people we know to be dangerous. The problem is that most aren’t, yet MAGA is characterizing it as if they are, which leads to all kinds of problems. I also care about HOW people are deported, when necessary, and that human rights come first and foremost in that process. It doesn’t matter who you are, where you’re from, or how you came here…. basic human decency dictates that you should treat all of these people with care and respect, as fellow humans, and not possibly dangerous “outsiders.” Life isn’t “us vs them”, nor should it ever be. We’re all in this together, as humans. Just because we happen to be the ones in the desirable spot doesn’t mean we should be gatekeepers about it. I guarantee if shit went sideways and you needed to flee somewhere else in whatever manner you had to do it, you wouldn’t be hoping the other country would treat you like a threat. REAL easy to be the one in the good situation and say “these people should respect our borders and processes.” REAL EASY.
Individualism is fine to a degree, but it’s the antithesis to society. So if you want paved roads and electricity and running water and mail delivery and all the other happy horseshit, pipe down about individualism a bit, or go get a horse and move off into the mountains and leave society behind. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man *nor deporting people we know to be dangerous
It's hard to believe how out of touch you are with literally and with everything that is happening in your country. It's like you have been hibernated all your life and you came out from hibernation when Joe Biden took office in 2021. What kindness are you talking about? Just look it up on YouTube how many people were assaulted just because they wore a MAGA hat. Look up all the sick Democrat fanatics who burned up Tesla cars, even through they are supposed to care about environmental protection.
Look up what Bill Clinton said about illegal immigration when he was president. Look up what Barack Obama said to illegal immigrants on camera. Look up how many illegal immigrants Obama deported when he was president. Also, no we are not animals. By the way, you know what a lot of animals do when another type of animal go to their property? They chase them away. Look up how Laken Riley's mom reacted when she learned what happened to her daughter. You know who did Laken Riley's and Jocelyn Nungaray's moms sided with after their daughter were killed by illegal criminals? They all sided with Donald Trump.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man Your entire response just reeks of inability to reason or critically think. You’re clearly very brainwashed by right wing propganda, this is all buzzwords and outrage-fodder you’ve either fallen for, are dishonestly propagating, or some mixture of both. “Just look it up on YouTube!” is sad and frightening commentary on the state of American intelligence today. My dad also heard on YouTube that the guy from Pawn Stars got arrested for and convicted of grisly murders and is serving life, from multiple videos.
I don’t know how many Teslas got vandalized, but I don’t support that. But you’re either ignoring an important part of the story, or you’re just ignorant and don’t realize DOGE wasn’t just some thing to “cut fraud and waste.” If you believe that….. holy fuck, bro. I also have a “Buy One, Get One Half Off” deal on the Brooklyn and Golden Gate Bridges. Matter of fact, there’s a GREAT one in Baltimore I can sell you sight unseen, on the condition that you promise not to look it up on the internet before signing…
Funny how he went after agencies that investigated or stood in his way as a regulatory hurdle, or his idiotic “anti-woke” nonsense, but yet the Dept of Defense, who failed their last SEVEN audits going back to Trump 1.0, weren’t cut, and it’s surely no coincidence they were GIVEN funding to ultimately give to Elon through government contracts with his private companies. And y’all are worried about Hunter and “the big guy”, which Republicans wasted two years’ worth of our tax money never proving, and two guys are currently jailed for LYING as supposed “whistleblowers.” What a fucking joke. Let me guess…”tHe DeEp StAtE!!!”🤡🤡🤡
@UnlimitedSpider-Man So the protests against Elon and his EXTREMELY shady DOGE endeavor, to anyone without a mouthful of Trump-meat, were for very good reason. Likes get crossed with vandalism or even violence occasionally, but it’s extremely dishonest to try to paint an entire movement with that brush and let that be the headline, when it’s fringe behavior. But please don’t believe for a second —not for me or anyone else, but for YOU— that Elon or Trump or any of these assholes in tow give one squirt of piss about you, the average American. Holy fuck, if I could convince you of anything on this day: no matter what gripes you have with the left or establishment Republicans…. I’m shaking you by the shoulders, with tears in my eyes…. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS OR MINE. There’s a lot of things you and I would likely disagree on, we might even really dislike each other…. but Jesus tap-dancing Christ, my brother in stars-and-stripes, PLEASE STOP FALLING FOR THESE CON ARTISTS. YOU AND I ARE NOT THEIR PRIORITY. THESE ARE NOT THE HEROES WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR. SAVE THE COUNTRY THAT I PROMISE YOU I LOVE JUST LIKE YOU DO. Stop. Fucking. FALLING FOR IT. Respectfully, PLEASE. This is going to destroy us, not strengthen us. I’m not trying to come off condescending, but you’re clearly not grasping the severity of what is happening here.
You have to stop falling for lurid news stories. There are Laken Rileys killed by Americans and we don’t hear about it unless it’s on some terrible basic cable “true crime” show. They’re deliberately highlighting migrant crime to make us believe they’re dangerous on the whole, but the danger isn’t the true issue, it’s to camouflage xenophobia, nativism, and probably racism/culturism.
Dude what the hell are you talking about? Literally everything I said is a fact. Why don't you tell all this to Laken Riley's and Jocelyn Nungaray's mothers? Tell them that their daughters death was just a right-wing propaganda made up by Fox News. I guess Fox News was also holding Obama hostage and they have held a gun near his head when he said that he will deport every illegal immigrant worker from the US. All of the incidents when people who wore MAGA hats were assaulted was in the news, but you are babbling about decency like a hypocrite.
Nobody even knows who ran the country in the last 4 years when Joe Biden didn't even knew where he was. The entire legacy media lied into your face and covered up Joe Biden's mental decline, even through it was obvious, but of course you don't care Why don't you buy fake Jake Tapper's book and support his "work" explaining how he played a part in covering up Joe's mental decline?
@UnlimitedSpider-Man You either have wildly dishonest information sources or you lack adult level reasoning skills. Maybe both.
I never said Riley and Nungaray didn’t happen, that’s preposterous. What I’m saying is this is the exact outrage fodder I’m talking about. Their deaths, in a vacuum, are tragic, this isn’t meant as any disrespect to them. But to turn their deaths into a reason for anti-immigration sentiment is absolutely fucking crazy. It’s irrational and illogical. I’m sure we can find a handful of others who were victimized by a violent crime, but out of the 21 million migrants Trump alleged are here? That’s pretty fuckin’ good. I wish human beings in general were better than that, but relative to reality…. pretty reasonable, especially in comparison to our own citizens. Even Laken’s father was displeased with the way her death was being used, by the way. A crime is a crime, who committed it is largely unimportant. It’s not more or less tragic because it was or wasn’t a migrant, lmfao, Jesus Christ.
But you’re falling into the exact propaganda trap they want you to: “oH mY gOd, ThE bOrDeR iS jUsT a GaPiNg HoLe iN a FeNcE, eVeRyOnE’s pOuRiNg iN uNcHeCkEd, AnD tHeY’rE tAKiNg aLL tHe JoBs BuT tHeY aLsO dOn’T wOrK aNd GeT WeLfArE, aNd ThEy’Re RaPiNg aLL tHe WoMeN, aNd BiDeN FeLL dOwN, aNd HiS nAmE iS bArAcK HUSSEIN oBaMa, GaAaAaHhHhHhHh….” You guys are fucking hysterics😂 You’re characterizing a whole bunch of people by the bad actions of just a few, and the type of folks we already grow at home.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man You guys live in such fucking fear, how do you even exist like that? Everyone’s coming to get you, everyone’s trying to take something from you, there’s a dangerous threat around every corner…relax and have a fuckin’ beer, guys, holy shit😂😂😂 I saw some guy open carrying up in New Hampshire. Little short fat fuck, couldn’t squash a grape in a fruit fight, 35 years past his prime, walking around burners out, in one of the safest places I could ever fucking imagine. Families and old money. The moose are more dangerous than anyone.
Caution is fine, but y’all seem terrified, of EVERYTHING. Immigrants are dangerous, cities are dangerous, walking around unarmed is dangerous, the government is coming for my guns, vaccines give you autism, rainbows at Target might turn my kids gay, there are kitty litter boxes in school bathrooms, “woke” teachers might teach my kids that it’s not ok to just beat the shit out of trans people on sight…. you guys are just scared and ignorant, it’s the craziest shit I’ve ever seen. Not even trying to be insulting, just speaking honestly.
Joe Biden…. I was never a huge fan, most DC Democrats are to my right. American left wingers in actuality aren’t very left wing at all, relative to the rest of the world. Like the very fact that you guys were calling Kamala “Marxist” and “radical left” is instantaneous evidence that Trump and Company are completely unserious people. She is FAR from radical. She’s another corporate suit. “Marxist”, lmfaooooo. When I hear anyone call her or anyone in that orbit that, it’s an instant credibility-destroyer. Just lmao.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man And anyway, Trump is a rare case where the person matters, because he’s THAT egregiously bad and signals such a departure from sense that we would even consider him for the job. But at the end of the day, this is liberal vs conservative, and as I’m sure you’ve realized, I find most conservative social values to be abhorrent and in many cases subhuman. As long as SOMEONE in charge or pulling some strings is combatting MAGA-conservatism, that’s really all I care. This will determine if America survives or not, I truly believe that. I wish we weren’t here, and that so many people would even consider this as a reasonable way to go about business, but mark my words, this will be our downfall. Even if the prosperity comes, that can’t be the reason we do things, and never at the expense of humanity. So at best, we can only hope for shamefully ill-gotten gains. Maybe others can sleep well with that, but I’m simply a better person than that.
Dude, who the flying fuck is talking about anti immigration? See this is the reason why it's a waste of time to argue with people like you. What's the point of the argument if you don't even listen to me? You pick out certain words and parts, and you ignore everything else. We are talking about ILLEGAL immigration, which is something BILL CLINTON was also against. Same with BARACK OBAMA, who even DEPORTED millions of people. So which part is hard for you to understand?
You talk about "hysteria" over tons of people who have been killed, meanwhile Democrat fanatics were crying about the fact that Trump once picked up a glass of water with two hands and that's how he drink from it. Or how about the fact that when a comedian made a joke about Puerto Rico, and CNN AKA Clown News Network talked about it for a whole week. Just check out there YouTube page, and you will find 20 videos on their page about that one comedian making a joke about the bad state of Puerto Rico. He wasn't even talking about the people. He was only talking about the sad state the country is in. So this isn't a hysteria, but tons of people getting killed by illegal aliens is? (Bill Clinton called them like this too, before you start complaining). Make it make sense.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man Because Trump’s followers are like 80% muppets, they can’t/won’t discern. They’re being coached to assume undocumented unless proven otherwise, which makes for a pretty unfriendly environment for any immigrant, particularly ones of color. Don’t act like these folks would have been welcomed with open arms if they had just done the paperwork, lmfao. You act like I don’t live in America😂
And in the end, I don’t care so much if they stay or go, I just care that they aren’t treated like animals for a pretty victimless crime of undocumented entry into the country. I’d rather we spend this energy on policing white collar criminals, who are REALLY the ones fucking up our lives, just non-violently and covertly. But I guarantee you your bank account is way worse off because of people in suits and ties who run unchecked, or are even fostered, and because of not immigrants, legal or illegal. You simply favor them because you’re blind to it and/or feel more culturally aligned with the American suits.
I don’t know whatever past presidents’ quotes you’re referencing are, but the bottom line here is which one of those presidents sent deportees into the custody of some maximum security in countries they may not even be from? And which ones suggested the same treatment for “homegrowns?” That’s fucking crazy, bro. That is not normal or ok, and I’m not going to sit here and pretend that that’s just a reasonable matter of opinion.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man “Tons” of people? Name ‘em. That should be an easy list to provide. This better be thousands of people for me to start batting an eyelash at it. “Tons.” I’d better be reading all night. And don’t give me stupid petty misdemeanors, give me real deal homicides and shit. “Well, this guy got a DUI….” Fuck that, I play hockey with cops, they routinely drink eight beers in two hours in front of my, and jump in their truck and drive home. “Assault?” Also in beer league hockey, cops and firefighters often have teams together…and guess who has the worst reputation for starting fights on the ice? Cops have some crazy high domestic violence rate professionally too. So I’m just saying get at with me with some murders and rapes and bank robberies and shit. I’m joking around to make a point, but the point is that most of these folks are just rando people, not here to cause trouble, and it’s fucked up to assume otherwise. Regardless, undocumented immigrants aren’t contributing to crime at any shocking rate, so you’re either being hysterical or you want to dishonestly aid the narrative of “there are hordes of violent criminals flooding the country.” I’m sure you can find other examples, and I’m sure some right wing site has a whole meme made up with brown faces and crimes they’ve committed, lmfao, that’s all part of this painfully obvious concerted effort. But you act like these guys have a 20% crime rate, lmao. You can’t really say “I don’t want America to be less white” out loud though, I get it.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man From Google AI (their CEO was at Trump’s inauguration, I don’t want to hear that this was programmed to be woke or some other dumb shit, lmfao):
“Research consistently indicates that undocumented immigrants in the United States have lower crime rates than native-born U. S. citizens.
Here's a summary of the findings:
Lower Incarceration Rates: Studies, like those by the Cato Institute, have found that undocumented immigrants are incarcerated at lower rates than native-born Americans.
Lower Felony Arrest Rates: Research analyzing data from the Texas Department of Public Safety shows that undocumented immigrants have significantly lower felony arrest rates across various offenses compared to both native-born citizens and legal immigrants.
Lower Conviction Rates: Undocumented immigrants are also less likely to be convicted of crimes, including homicide, than native-born Americans.
Declining Crime Rates: As the immigrant population, including undocumented immigrants, has increased in the U. S., overall crime rates have declined. This suggests that immigration is not driving up crime, and may even be associated with lower crime rates.
In summary, the available data suggests that undocumented immigrants in the U. S. are less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizens, and their presence does not lead to higher crime rates.”
@UnlimitedSpider-Man I think that you’re just irrationally fearful of foreigners, and I don’t know what your demographics are, but possibly of brown people in general, if you aren’t yourself. It can’t make sense to you if you’re operating under that critical misunderstanding fueled by critical misinformation. The level of your outrage does match the available legitimate information.
@UnlimitedSpider-Man *The level of your outrage doesN’T match the available legitimate information.
What fake left-wing research says that undocumented immigrants do less crimes? Are you aware of the fact that finding an undocumented immigrant who did a crime is much harder because their fingerprints are not in the data base? Oh of course you are not aware of that, because the garbage left-wing media propaganda never talks about it. By the way, the Trump administration has put out a sign of the most dangerous illegal criminals, and murderers near the White House, where the media talks on live TV, so everyone can see them. Look it up yourself. There are tons of signs there, and those are just the worst cases. You spend more time defending outsiders who do crimes, than defending your own country. Are you aware what the word illegal means, or you far left people have found a new meaning to it? When will you respond to what I said about Clinton and Obama? I told you before, but you never listen. You can't prevent a citizen to do a crime, but you can prevent an illegal criminal to come in to your country.
By the way, Joe Biden wasn't even the president in the last 4 years, but of course you don't care about that. You don't even care about who was running the country in the last 4 years, and about the fact that Joe Biden was using an auto pen. Why would you even care about any of that.
I forgot to mention, that those dangerous criminals who the Trump administration has put out signs about are already deported. So you can think this to President Trump and everyone who voted for him last year.
One could only hope so. The Patriarch the left want to destroy is Yahweh, so if a Republican woman president was a servant of God, it would be much better than if they were a psychotic satanic lunatic like Hillary Clinton. It's not guaranteed that a woman would be of good moral character just because she claims to be a Republican, but the odds would be better than picking a female Democrat.
What patriarchy though? She got a shot at becoming president as did kamala, the reason they lost wasn't the invisible patriarchy.
“My opponent is a liar and can’t be trusted”
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I'll tell you any part of the patriarchy that still stands is wise and true. America didn't just fall off of the turnip truck. She's been here a while. And for better than 200 years we were the very best on earth. You can thank the Crooked Hillarys of the world along with a Pelosi, Schumer and a Bush or two for the things we've gone through these past couple decades.
Wait, she's serious? Let me laugh even harder.
What would a drunken old communist know about much of anything?
Dummycrats: Can't live without them, and they can't pee standing up.
Coming from the woman who stayed with her husband after he publicly humiliated her by cheating on her while president
You can always tell when the Clintons are lying. Either there are mildness or moving. or they are writing something down. You can't believe any word that they use. Not even And and The. And we know about. IS.
I have no idea what that means but, if she said it, there's 99.99% chance I disagree with it!!
Hilllery also said that Republicans are the enemy. She is a bitter , corrupt old hag that cannot deal with the fact that America rejected her.
Hate to break it to you, she did win popular vote when she was running
@blackeagle007 still, she was rejected. She outspent Donald Trump and she had the whole fake news media behind her and she still lost.
Anything out of her mouth is wrong and always has been
I don't even know what that means. Sounds pretty sexist though.
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky..."
Come on Bill... we don't blame you either
republican females. ill never understand. just like black republicans. ill never understand either
im a white dem. male, jewish
That’s because you are completely bought into Identity Politics. I have voted democrat and republicans but mostly, by far, republicans I do it based on looking at who they are and where they stand on the issues. You got just by selecting the on with (D) next to the name. Our maintenance guy is black with Trump decals all over his truck. My sister is a NYC lesbian who was an executive in the fashion industry (a VP at a fashion brand you would definitely know) who is married to another woman and is very Republican and a big Trump supporter. And my wonderful wife also voted Republican even though it would be all right if she decided not to. Perhaps you wouldn’t allow that in your family. These are smart people although somehow I bet you would think you are smarter… but you aren’t.
Now I don’t understand why you are Jewish and yet many Democrats are against Israel, they are for Palestine, pro Muslim immigration even when they clearly want to kill the likes of you, and as a white male with DEI still operating you will be actively discriminated against.
I think she says that because of the current craziness of the GOP.
Of course she would be a handmaiden to the patriarchy but the real question is would she say thank you to JB Vance?
So let me get this straight: if a woman doesn’t fall in line with your ideology, she’s automatically a “handmaiden”? Sounds less like empowerment and more like a purity test.
You don’t want women to think for themselves—you want them to echo your politics. That’s not feminism. That’s ideological conformity with lipstick on it.
- Eva ♥️
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT !!!(Imagine a Tulsi Gabbard Presidency !!!)
Hilary is a hypocrite clown. I don't know why would anyone take anything what she says seriously, unless you are a hardcore Democrat fanatic.
This is why they lost so many women to the Republican party in the last two election cycles.
I don't even know what that phrase means.
Not my wife.
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