Are the ICE riots "insurrections"?

[OddBeMe]

Sure I'll go along with that. My side wants to stop horrific deportations and Maga wanted to overturn a fair election.

Yes

No

[MisterWack]

Here is my understanding,

All I know is, when you have protestors in the streets, especially ones being a bit ‘difficult’, it is best to get as little Federal govt intervention as possible to keep crowds calm.

President Trump saw the civil unrest and decided the best course of action was to send in The National Guard which led to public outcry getting worse therefore tensions heightened. With rumors brewing President Trump would send in Marines, the protestors got more aggressive with their numbers which now President Trump is sending in 700 Marines which is escalating the situation not deescalating as we would like to see.

All this stemmed from ICE moving into LA to look for undocumented immigrants which led to protestors assembling against ICE and their actions.

Trump and his Border Czar are going to make empty threats of arresting Democrats to pour fuel to the flame of riots / outrage to stir a public narrative. Gavin Newsom is suing The Federal Government to make sure Presidential Powers are limited, that he can’t just send ICE wherever he well damn please to prevent abuse of powers never seen before in an apparent power struggle.

LA was handling this until the Office of The President jumped in, now look at the mess happening. People are shocked, but this happened in 2020 as well with all the protests going on. This isn’t new. There are case studies that go back decades and in movies, being the “strong man” doesn’t do anything but what will is decreased government involvement. I’d tell Trump to “get a grip”. That is what a real leader would do, unlike this bully.

I saw a literal clip of a reporter getting hit with a rubber bullet just for doing her job, reporting live on the scene. She wasn’t harming anyone, unless you count words hurting these thugs’ feelings. This is despicable, imagine if Obama or Biden did that in Ohio or Texas or Florida, there would be public outrage especially if they called for the arrest of Desantis. Pathetic, this is wrong.

These are not “insurrections”, if they were then why aren’t they storming the Californian Capital / Washington DC Capital? Exactly. It is a power struggle in a different way, State Govt wants to deal with the issue to deescalate while the Federal Govt wants to increase forces to push back which only escalates the issue also tensions. This is bad.

[exitseven]

If President Trump did not call the National Guard there would have been people killed by now

[MisterWack]

@exitseven So you are saying having protests spread to San Antonio Texas and other places around the US while escalating LA protest response to an overblown margin of tensions and destruction is worth it for a few police officers who would’ve been clearly better off if Trump did not intervene?

Sure that makes sense. Totally makes sense, also what state do you live in so I can research if illegal immigrants’ licenses from the DMV can be utilized as ID in Federal settings which would prevent them from voting in our Federal Elections?

[exitseven]

I am saying if protesters interfered with ICE agents to the extent that they were in fear of their lives they would have to use deadly force and kill some of them.

[MisterWack]

@exitseven And all I’m saying is, when you let tensions rise there is more conflict and more close encounters which heighten the likelihood of death. If you see no deaths before intervention then you start seeing deaths / injuries now also destruction of property then I hope you redact that mindset because it is very dangerous notion to have in leadership.

[exitseven]

ICE agents have a dangerous enough job to begin with. To I introduce another variable to an already dangerous situation co y ld result in deaths. So far doing it Trumps way nobody has ever been killed.

[lightbulb27]

maybe we need a tribunal and put everyone in prison for 4 years that showed up? jan 6 didn't burn waymo cars like these guys.

I'd say no... they aren't invading a government building, but they are putting the lives of law enforcement at risk. See tom homan interview, the people ICE was detaining had been through the process w federal judge and were in trouble with the law doing crimes.

these people are off their rockers in fear. but that is partly the fault of the administration and their communications and methods.

[Anonymous]

Sure and No. Specifically talking about LA. It was a couple days of legal and peaceful reaction to being raided illegally. As in against the constitution.

You are right about one thing. ICE is the one rioting in the LA streets not the people of LA. It's all show.

Starting, let's just call these people behind the assaults for who they are, they're fascists. It is not a conservative party it is a fascist party. They've all supported Trump they've all declared themselves fascists. They chose to travel to CA and assault people, reported as untrained Amateur by the professionals. It's reported they do not live in CA. Proud boys? All of the pardoned Jan6r's, there's some irony there.
Bonus. The slurring border dipsh*t who thinks so much of himself just happened to be in Ca? Pfft.

Now down to the "riots".

They weren't any riots.

If you look at the actual videos of people holding camera phones on the ground they were yelling at the LA police saying "Why are you supporting Trump's ice proud boys raiding kindergarten graduations and Home Depot parking lots? Shame on you!"

Did that hurt their feelings? Meanwhile some of those latino officers were probably having family hauled away off the wall down the street.

All of the smoke bombs land in empty streets.

One lone skater who stood up to them in the smoke flipping them off gets pummeled. I hope he sues their asses off.
Others stood in front of their bus and merely moved. Hour one.

The mass protesters were on the other side of the city surrounded by news vehicles simply standing up against trump with signs and chanting, peacefully.

This entire scene of smoke and mirrors -literally- is set up to avoid the Epstein files and Musks mental brake.

Trump continues to prove how weak and pathetic he truly is. Armed guard. For what? lmfao

Complete bullsh*t.

What pisses me off is Newsom didn't release so much as a message from his office until the third day. wtf He's hiding? His career is done. Trump is winning unless he gets off his butt and protects the people of ca for this unjust assault by the government.

This is a bubble project by the way. It'll be happening all over next.

Anyway. Back on point.

What the f*ck is wrong with Musk?

And where are the Epstein files, Trump?

[Opinion Owner]

Boiled down vs
Intent matters here.
If it was for a legitimate reason
vs
It being for distraction and fame

[purplepoppy]

Pretty obvious to us outside America what's happening. Trump rattled the cage with the intention of setting off riots so he could send in the troops and justify his anti immigration policy, perhaps also lower the bar for eviction. The sad thing is people walked straight into the trap.

[exitseven]

No, ICE has the authority to perform their duties. It is illegal to interfere with the duties of an federal agent. Tom Homan has repeatedly warned that he is serious about arresting anybody who interferes with their duties. He has the law on his side. The democrat politicians are the ones inciting these useful idiots to riot. They are the ones who will get shot and the politicians will just go and find some more of these delusional morons to riot.

[ProbablyClueless]

That's obvious, huh? Trump doesn't need to justify his immigration policy; the vast majority of Americans already support it.

[Avicenna]

@ProbablyClueless" Yup, only leftist crazies want to keep illegal murderers, rapists. human traffickers, and child abusers from getting deported.

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna Only fascist morons like you and @exitseven are fine with an incompetent, convicted criminal turning a democracy into a fascist state, as long as it encourages you to keep on hating and blaming the left for your sad and pathetic lives of willful obedience.

[exitseven]

@Danzigdawson My life is neither sad or pathetic. I have had 3 successful careers, I have a great wife and 3 college graduates for kids. I own two homes and a great American made V-8 pickup truck.

[Danzigdawson]

@exitseven That's what your worth as a human being is based on? What are you exactly without these insignificant proofs of "success"?

[ProbablyClueless]

@Danzigdawson it sounds like the overarching theme of what he said about his life is “connection.” He has been able to establish connections with the world around him.

[OddBeMe]

[Danzigdawson]

Shame to the cops and national guard soldiers who choose to enforce trump's stupid policies. He'll bring you all down with him.

[Avicenna]

That's called following a legal order to deport people convicted of serious violent crimes who are in the US illegally or following a legal order to stop riots, violent attacks and property damage.
You think that is a shame? You're really sick...

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna As usual, it's not 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 simple and you are 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 stupid. Fucking fascist pig.

[Avicenna]

Nazis like you are too dumb to believe anything but your own propaganda (or that of Hamas). Now, even though you're a Canadian Nazi, you're still welcome to explain yourself. I expect to be underwhelmed by whatever you think is the "not so simple explanation"...

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna You are a nazi. Take nazism as a whole, substitute Jews for any other group of people that you hate and you're perfectly fine with the whole program.

Fascist scum 🖕

[Avicenna]

That's very extreme and deranged on your part (no surprise there). What group (s) of people does your deranged, extremist mind claim "that I hate", and what evidence do you have to support your deranged and extremist claim?

by the way, it's long been established that you're a Nazi who hates Jews, but the ADL has pointed out that calling a Jew a Nazi is anti-Semitic (it's also insane, but we have long known that you're mentally ill, hence your extreme lunatic rants).

[Danzigdawson]

@Avicenna Fuck you asshole. It's long been established that you're a fascist of the nazi variety. You're stand for genocide, police state, dictatorship, war for territory and crushing the left as a whole.

You're a disgrace to Jewish people everywhere in the world.

[OddBeMe]

@Avicenna actually it's an illegal order as they all vowed to uphold the constitution. Which you fucks hate so much.

[Avicenna]

@Danzigdawson: Once again we see that you, like a typical deranged leftist, just say any old shit and can’t back it up. All you established is that you’re a piece of shit liar who hates Jews AND anyone who doesn’t share your extremist views.

[Avicenna]

@OddBeMe: Since you think you’re a constitutional scholar, explain to us exactly what parts of the Constitution you think have been violated by cops and the National Guard and how, I. e, what orders are unconstitutional and why. You don’t just get to repeat some vague Democratic Party propaganda- you need to fully back up your claim or admit you don’t know what you’re talking about.

[OddBeMe]

@Avicenna posse commitatus once marines put foot on the ground. And the court just blew back presidential decree to order around guardsmen.

Thought you fucks were pro states rights?

[Danzigdawson]

@OddBeMe Nice 👍.

I don't want to tell you what to do but, as you probably know, debating with that fucker is a complete waste of time and energy. Plus, even if you take appart his stupid ramblings one by one, he'll come back on another thread all cocksure like it didn't happen... Like he still has credibility and something pertinent to say.

Also, since the word Odd is part of your name, he'll accuse you of being a fan of the book "Odd and the Frost Giants", which is a children's fantasy book that draws on norse mythology that I found while looking for ODD as an initialism (for the very purpose of this reply), which in turn can be linked to nazism, which makes you a nazi. That guy has the most functional logic I've ever seen anywhere.

Or he'll say that the -O- stands for Obersalzberg, which was the town in which -M- artin -B- orrman had a luxury retreat built for hitler. There you go. O B and M. Drop the act dude: you're a nazi.

That's how fucking stupid he is. 😄

[OddBeMe]

It is but the retards make me feel better about my life.

[Danzigdawson]

@OddBeMe That's pretty much their only use 😄

[Avicenna]

Odd, Posse Comitatus doesn’t apply here- Trump can nationalize the National Guard (as a higher court in the 9th District ruled, including one Biden appointee) and the active duty Marines were sent in because the mayor and governor didn’t stop the riots (at a minimum they supported them) which put federal employees in physical danger (as well as civilians). Had the mayor and governor done their jobs, Trump would not have have had to take the legal actions he took.

Much as I thought, you don’t actually understand the legal issues or the law, you just repeat whatever propaganda you hear or see.

Since you’re the Scion of Segregation and Slavery, you may want to learn about what Eisenhower did to enforce desegregation in 1957 and what LBJ did in 1967 during the Detroit riots. Were their actions illegal?

[Avicenna]

Nazi Danzig, it’s a shame that a mentally ill Nazi like you is so fascinated with me. You really need professional help for that and your utter insanity in general.

A rational person, which you are not and never will be, wouldn’t just parrot the crazy genocide claims you constantly repeat hoping people will fall for them. Ask yourself why no Arab country is willing to take Gazans, absolutely none. Is that something that happens when genocide occurs these days? No, and these countries‘ populaces are all hostile to Israel. But they know the Palestinians aren’t victims, and that they started the war on 10/7/23 by attacking Israel. The war has seen a record low civilian to combatant death toll ratio in Gaza, which also is completely inconsistent with the false libel of genocide.

And that’s just scratching the surface. If you two mentally ill Nazi fools want to fellate each other, go ahead. But don’t kid yourselves that you’re right about anything.

[ProbablyClueless]

MAGA wanted to have an election properly and legally investigated, and a peaceful situation got ever so slightly out of hand.'

Your side wants to violently and blatantly prevent the enforcement of law by assaulting government agents.

Oxford Dictionary defines an insurrection as "a violent uprising against an authority or government."

To the shock of no one, the kind empathetic people of the left are the problem here.

[Avicenna]

Jan 6 was nothing compared to the Nazi attempts to keep murderers, sex offenders and other really bad criminals who are in the US illegally from being deported. If removing such criminals is your idea of "horrific", you are seriously depraved.

So, yeah, the riots are indeed an insurrection, replete with Mexican flags being carried around by illegal invaders and the Mexican President threatening the US.

[AyChingao]

Peaceful protest, and this largely has been save ICE and LAPD deploying gas, flash bangs and using rubber bullets, is a protected 1st amendment right. Trump is doing his best to bait the protestors into becoming violent so he can declare martial law. Trump is, as always, the thug.

[Avicenna]

Interfering with federal officers doing their jobs is anything but peaceful and it's a crime. So is damaging property. None of those things are protected by the First Amendment.

[AyChingao]

@Avicenna Nothing about your "raids" is legal or humane.. Masked people dropping into an area and snatching whoever, not IDing them or allowing due process, no charges or court appearance, just HEY they're brown... snatch 'em up and throw 'em on that thar plane bound for "we don't care where long as it ain't here". Let's get it straight. Tjey were to go after criminals and gang members, NOT 4 year girls with stage 4 cancer, but hey, she's brown so fuck her... amiright? Yeah that shit so normal and legal that FIDA's about to pull the World Cup costing the US BILLIONS on top of all the tourism it's about to lose because people don't wanna visit Mickey Mouse for fear of randomly being thrown into some van and ending up god knows where because Trump's an asshole and YOU people would defend him if he cut pieces off of a living chid if he did it right in front of you. You DO realize many countries have advised against travel to the US for these very reasons, but OK, You just go right on acring as if everyone else in the world is deranged.

[AyChingao]

*FIFA*

[Avicenna]

everyone else in the world isn't deranged, but you sure are as well as being an absolute idiot. You can have all the illegal murderers, rapists, child abusers, and thieves, because that's who you're trying to protect. They have been accurately identified and LA has violated the law by protecting them. You seem to think that the worst criminals who are in the US illegally should be permitted to stay just because they're generally nonwhite and really dangerous. That is sick and deranged.

[AyChingao]

@Avicenna as I stated before no one has an issue with the deportation of criminals, gang bangers etc. but Trump is making sure to do it in a very disruptive and demeaning way. Fun fact: Obama deported so many that some refer to him as the deporter in chief. You don't have to treat people like shit while enforcing the law, and I used to be an officer of rhe City of Dallas so don't lie to me about how it's done, or act like Trump has a monopoly on enforcement, he simply is using this as a too to get the military out there in the public. One thing I'd like to point out. Once he establishes martial law YOU will not be safe becasue at this point a van drives up, goons jump out, you go in and that's all. They will give zero shits about who you support or voted for, so you've fucked yourself along with everybody else and you clearly still don't get it even after ten years of orange stupidity. Congratulations stupid fuck, you all just gave America to a Putin-like assfucker and don't understand what that means. Now go back in your slime pit.

[Avicenna]

Clearly the Democrats are completely opposed to the deportation of these criminals, given they’re fighting it tooth and nail. So you’re a liar and a complete idiot for claiming otherwise. Perhaps you’ve deliberately forgotten how the Biden Administration opened borders completely, thus causing problems Trump is trying to solve.

As for your idiotic conspiracy theories about Trump we know you idiots hate his policies, but not only do you not have any solutions but you continually show how much you hate his supporters and want to target them. So who would a reasonable person be afraid of? Crazy ass racist Democrats who think they can riot, assault and damage property with impunity.

[AyChingao]

@Avicenna there's no point in trying to have any discussion at all with any of you people. You don't deal in the real world or in any facts. There can be no basis for any meaningful discourse, so... off you go... get your little hate erection from Noem. or Bondi... whatever bro. I doubt you'll even realize how badly he fucked things up when the economy collapses. You'll undoubtedly buy Trump's explanation of how it's all Biden's fault even 3-4 years down the road... adieu... try not to drown in the sewage of your hate

[Avicenna]

Your own comments prove that it’s you who is a clueless, mentally ill totalitarian. Join the chorus of the other mentally ill leftists shrieking the sane stuff. Your colleague @OddBeMe was screaming a few months ago that a depression was about to start. Think that idiot will now about he has no clue what he’s talking about? And neither do you. Go pout in the corner if you can’t handle people disagreeing with your BS.

[AyChingao]

@Avicenna oh I can handle it. I'm just not going to interact with people who refuse to recognize easily provable facts as true, Once again, there can be no real basis for a substantive discussion. Besides it's you who came running back cry babying because I won't subject myself to people teling me why it's OK to do ANY of the dozens of horriffic things this "regime" is doing. It's all just cruelty. Buh Bye now. I hope your pet orange thug ends up sizzling on a McDonald's griddle next to a Big Mac Patty.

[DrPepper12]

Plain vanilla protests with very little illegality*

*Unless you watch Fox, oan, etc

I've BEEN TO PROTESTS. THIS IS NOT ANARCHY, it's a fucking tea party in comparison.

** ALL ILLEGALITY SHOULD BE DEALT WITH SWIFTLY & HUMANELY by the way **

[Anonymous]

Rioters knew Trump would fold if they put up a big enough fight. Trump folded now and won't deport illegals working on farms, Hotels and restaurants. Trump has showed himself to be a puppet for his Jewish pay masters. When he signs over are younger Americans to die in the middle east for Israel's sake in the coming days it will all be known.

[IHaveRespawned]

We are tired of you unhinged, destructive, and extreme leftists inflicting chaos and interference! Order will be restored, and I cannot wait!

[goaded]

You: "unhinged, destructive, and extreme leftists".
Another opinion: "Trump should consider air strikes on them".

[goaded]

You: "unhinged, destructive, and extreme leftists".
Another opinion: "All the leftists & brown people at the Tennessee capital riot should've been met with a bullet to the face."

Feel free to quote a "unhinged, destructive, and extreme" leftist.

[goaded]

Demanding rule of law is the opposite of insurrection.

[Cormac995]

@goaded I agree what they are pissed off about is correct. Trump is ignoring constitutional law and illegally deporting people against court orders and accepting bribes among many, many other things but this is not acceptable behavior. They're hurting people and destroying property. This isn't a protest it's a riot now. This doesn't help anybody it's only going to make things even worse and give Trump an excuse to crack down harder. I hate trump and the fact he's breaking the law too but this is not how we fix the problem I promise you its only going to make things worse. Right wing propagandists are eating this up right now because it's making anti Trumpers look like anarchist criminals.

[goaded]

@Cormac995 Honestly, the only videos I've seen are of LAPD showing strength. I read a post that said something like "Imagine how extreme you have to be for the LAPD to be siding with the protesters!".

[Cormac995]

I agree but that doesn't change the fact this is only going to escalate things for the worse. We'll be lucky if there isn't some form of mass shooting by the end of this either by the police or a fucked in the head protester.

[goaded]

@Cormac995 I hope you're wrong. BLM involved 25 million people and there wasn't a mass shooting.

[Cormac995]

Things still got really, really bad and frankly I think things are even more heated now than they were then. There was rioting looting people were beaten to a pulp and robbed. This is not going to end well for anyone if this doesn't de-escalate soon.

[Cormac995]

There might be fewer people at this protest yes but there's clearly a lot of violent people there from the footage I've been seeing. I think chances of people getting killed before this is over are high.

[goaded]

@Cormac995 Wait, protesting the government is not the same as trying to overthrow it, is it? If people are going to be killed, it's unlikely to be the government officials.

[goaded]

BBC: "[Trump] said he doesn’t believe there’s an “insurrection” happening, but added that the government will “have troops everywhere”, including in cities beyond Los Angeles if protests grow."

[Cormac995]

It's not the same thing no I'm just saying I think this ends badly but I hope I'm wrong.

[goaded]

@Cormac995 Well, so far we've had a policeman shooting a journalist with a "less lethal" weapon, and others setting a car on fire with a flash-bang...

[Cormac995]

Yea and there have been protesters throwing rocks at cars both government and civilian while driving which could kill someone and they're destroying property. This is being escalated on both ends. This is how the Boston massacre happened. I really hope this blows over soon.

[goaded]

@Cormac995 Agreed, the protests turning into riots and vandalism is counter-productive, but the local police can still deal with the situation.

[Cormac995]

I agree local police should be the ones doing this yes. Being honest I actually am in favor of deporting illegal aliens that have criminal records in fact I encourage it. The problem I have is that trump is doing this illegally. How you do things matters and Trump is violating multiple orders from the supreme court ordering him to stop doing these things. Trump is breaking the law by doing this shit, but I guess "It's not illegal if the president does it." Look nobody wants violent illegal immigrants in their country but you have to follow the fucking law to get them out or you're just a different version of the people you're getting rid of. You don't beat your enemy by becoming them.

[Cormac995]

This shit in California though is doing nothing but giving Trump the excuse he's looking for to crack down and set precedents on cracking down on people who stand up to him.

[Cormac995]

I mean now they're just looting shit too.

[goaded]

@Cormac995 I have no problem with "deporting illegal aliens that have criminal records", nobody does. Like you say, that's not what they're doing.

You've got to wonder if there are agitators like Umbrella Man at work, or just common criminals.

[Cormac995]

It's possible but it's more likely this is very angry scared unheard people. That's akums razor here, It makes sense, we have a wannabe dictator in office who has replaced half the government with yes men including the upper military. He wants to pull out of NATO and these tariffs are going to cause a depression if he doesn't cut this shit out. People are scared hell I'm scared and when people are scared they lash out. I think that's what's probably happening.

[goaded]

@Cormac995 Yes, and Trump is a master at manipulating people.

[Cormac995]

he's also aging probably going slowly senile and often stupid. It's baffling it's like watching him do a coup version of connect the dots where he knows what he needs to do to become dictator but he's so stupid he can't pull it off even with a guide.

[goaded]

@Cormac995 He's avoided trial for multiple crimes. His supporters don't care he's a convicted felon (they'll even deny it). Don't you, @exitseven

[Cormac995]

Not to mention he's a rapist and we've known he was a friend of Epstein for years. Elon didn't say anything new all he did was show evidence that's been out there for years. If you can't call a spade a spade at these points your just ignorant.

Trump is a disgusting vile piece of shit and having him as our president knowing he was voted in by my countrymen makes me ashamed to be an American and I hate saying that because I love my country. I can say what I want here, we have beautiful natural spaces and parks, we have a history of rich literature and art and our military has many proud traditions and, on many occasions, has made the world a safer and better place.

Right now, though? No this isn't the America I was told I had as a kid and this isn't what my country promised me when I was little. All I wanted out of life was a house a wife and kids with a job I could take pride in. My country promised me that, but they lied. The idea of owning a house or affording kids in this economy is a pipe dream for almost everyone from millennials down and its corporate gluttons like Trump and Elon that have squeezed us so dry we're basically serfs again.

You know what the absolute most I wanted out of life was? If I got greedy, I want a small bit of land so I could have a horse cow and chickens. That's where my ambitions max out. I don't want to be rich; I don't want to be famous all I wanted was a home and a family but people like trump stole it from people like me.

These MAGA fools think the guy who's actively cornholling them is going to rip down the corrupt establishment which to be fair is corrupt but you don't fix corruption by having the most corrupt man in America run the job.

[exitseven]

@goaded Yes, and Trump and the DOJ is enforcing the rule of law.

[Avicenna]

@exitseven: goaded wouldn't have the slightest idea what the rule of law is (nor would any of these leftists), and what's more, he doesn't care.

I haven't forgotten that goaded tried to claim last year that Democrats were against illegal entry to to the US.

[goaded]

@Avicenna Good that you remembered that. It's still true. The lie is that the border was "open".

[exitseven]

how about pix of masked protesters standing on top of burning cars? Did you know that those were self driving csrs that cost 600.000 a piece? a whole row of them were in flames. It looked like 6 of them. How about pix of protesters hitting police cars with chunks of concrete? How about them dropping cider blocks off of overpasses onto cop cars? Mostly peaceful?

[goaded]

@exitseven How about the little detail that Trump activated the CA national guard illegally? The NYPost was joking about journalists being shot by police with rubber bullets, until one of theirs was (on the forehead, a couple of inches lower he'd have lost an eye, for sure).

Property damage is wrong, but violence against people is worse.

[exitseven]

I am sure that everyone who owns property in LA, especially store owners were glad that President Trump had the courage to take control of the situation. It would have been much worse because the LAPD were told not to interfere with the riot. Americans can see what is going on. Democrats are depending g on the votes of illegal aliens to maybe win another r election. If President Trump sends them all back they are finished.

[Avicenna]

@exitseven: Foreign Bolsheviks like goaded have no idea that "rule of law" isn't giving leftist totalitarians who scream the loudest what they want. Not that goaded actually understands anything about the US anyway.

[Sevenpointfive]

even the floyd riot wasn't an insurrection but it was closer. i like that they burned waymos. i knew it was coming. i am sorry that i told you so.

[AviatorTom]

The LA riots are people interfering with officers carrying out their legal obligations.

I wouldn't call it I resurrection, but it's definitely criminal interference.

[NatalieKeller95]

it's becoming an insurgency and if bullets don't fly soon, it will get very bad, Trump should consider air strikes on them

[OddBeMe]

Funny, your Jan 6 insurrection let bullets fly within hours. Our? Not even a death.

[exitseven]

The definition of an insurrection is a violent uprising against the government. Looks like it to me.

[goaded]

You also think there were a million people on Jan 6 and it wasn't an insurrection when they attacked the Capitol.

[exitseven]

@goaded It was a protest against the stolen election. It was not an uprising against the government, it was an effort to preserve the government. The democrats won and the good guy lost that day.

[goaded]

It wasn't a stolen election, it was liars trying to make you believe it was. How many obvious lies must Trump tell before you realize the truth?

[exitseven]

@goaded Yeah, 81 million people voted for a senile old fool who ran on the platform of , gonna raise your taxes , ship your job to China and take away your guns. If you believe that i have a ground floor opportunity for you with a new Crypto Currency platform I am starting.

[goaded]

It wasn't a stolen election, the alternative was the nightmare we're seeing today.

[exitseven]

@goaded A nightmare of prosperity and safety.

[goaded]

How safe was this Australian journalist when a policeman shot her?
files.mastodon.online/.../a25420a6c185be5c.mp4

[goaded]

@Theodish_Warrior If you pretend it wasn't an attempted insurrection, you're a liar.

Guess what? You don't have to have guns to stop a vote count and use your Republican majority of states in the House to steal the presidency. That's how. Exactly.

[exitseven]

@goaded it was just a rubber bullet. Ashlee Babbitt was shot in the neck and bled out.

[goaded]

This British photographer was shot with "just" a plastic bullet, he's "now recovering at Long Beach Memorial Medical Centre following emergency surgery to remove the bullet from his leg."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg7vzrj6g3o

Neither journalist was doing anything illegal or even questionable.

Ashlee Babbitt was at the head of a mob of rioters illegally in the US Capitol, climbing through a broken window over a barricade into a room containing VIPs and their armed guards with a rucksack on her back on a day when explosives had been found. She deserved to be shot.

[goaded]

@Theodish_Warrior "No demonstrators broke into the [Tennessee] Capitol, no one was arrested or injured, and no property was damaged." eu.tennessean.com/.../

[Irritatedyet]

Lol. It's the same, only different. Yeah, okay.

[Still-alive]

They aren't even 'riots' they are mostly peaceful and only happening in like 2-3 streets in downtown. its the police AS USUAL escalating things.

[genericname85]

No. They are just demonstration of a failing police force. Like people go crazy and don't get any consequences. That shit has to stop.

[Anonymous]

We can CALL them that just for you, little snowflake! Would that make you feel better?
We had no problem with the last election!! It was the one before that where Joe cheated!!

[Anonymous]

If citizens are doing it yes. If non citizens are doing it I don't know. But arrest them and it should make ICE job easier

[Filthy_Immigrant]

Ah yes, the classic ‘ICE protest = insurrection’ take. Bold move, mixing apples, oranges, and conspiracy Kool-Aid in one sentence

[David318578]

It's an uprising against the government so yeah.

[Sal_Monella]

a violent uprising against an authority or government. What do you think?

[Ariesman81]

Ahhhhhh... law, order and upset Liberals. Makes you love America again doesn't it.

[Reijen]

Deportations are what the people wanted. Viva la democracy!

[WhiteBoyChill]

What’s so horrific about deportations?

They’re a drain on government services

[WintersDaughter]

They're doing their job.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

He doesn't like that. He likes corruption and disorder when it benefits his ish political narrative and views.

[katiesmuff]

Yes for the same reasons as you!

[IamRight]

Yes they are insurrections.

[msc545]

no, it's just right-wing drama.

[Anonymous]

I guess they are.

[seeyounexttuesday]

bahahahaha