Will you be turning in your neighbours?

[goaded]

Like Anne Frank.

She wasn't shot or gassed, she had been legally in the country until they changed the law. She was turned in and sent to a concentration camp where the conditions were so bad she died of disease.

Updates

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https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1932820723606958122

The US government is being run by children with no self-control.

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The DHS response to questions about this questionable image? It sounds like things Stephen Miller says, and the media shouldn't pay attention to their flood of propaganda on social media.

edition.cnn.com/.../dhs-social-media-post-ice-deportations-criticisms

[MisterWack]

I mean if I got someone deported without the guarantee it is to their hometown or home residence, where they are persecuted for being a certain way, shot in the streets, or die of a disease they were getting treatment for here… I think that would be like pulling a trigger in the moral department.

I wouldn’t rat out neighbors or friends or colleagues if I found out how they came here, though I didn’t think about that consequence until you brought it up. That is awful to think.

And reminds me just because something is legal doesn’t mean it is right just like just because something is illegal doesn’t mean it is wrong. Still believe that notion.
Jim Crow Laws were legal and they weren’t right. Somethings are complicated.

[goaded]

They're being deported without due process, let alone a trial, to a concentration camp in a country most of them have never visited. (The difference between a prison and a concentration camp is judicial oversight.) How are they in a prison if they haven't been proven to commit a crime?

[MisterWack]

@goaded It is plain wrong what is happening, good that you aren’t keeping your eyes off of it.

[LunarEclipse433]

Easy fix, enter the US legally

[MisterWack]

@LunarEclipse433 Easier fix, make immigration here legally easier !

[MisterWack]

@LunarEclipse433 And make seeking asylum easier !

[MisterWack]

@LunarEclipse433
And don’t have a government that is so vindictive to the point of deporting cancer children !

[abc3643]

My neighbors are all Trump voters... If anything, they'll be turning me in. Fortunately, I am safely White and look like a perfect Trump voter sans MAGA hat.

It's just like this video in which I would be Peter Griffen and everyone else are my neighbors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwj6P_BRFFE

[goaded]

Scary place! (Love the video.)

[dustybiker2]

They are now flying 12 Blackhawk helicopters and drones over the thousands of crops in Ca.

I cannot wait till the day when trump wonders why there is no food delivered to his grand dining room.

Because there is none. The immigrants who handle all of the US food supplies (from dairy, meat, fruits and veggies to grains and some) have been deported. His castle staff have been deported.

The roof is leaking because the roof company owners have no staff.

The yard has grown up past the windows as yard maintenance workers have been deported.

I can go on and on.

America runs on immigrants.

Shocker.

[goaded]

They raided a meat-packing factory. The owner was confused because he'd used the federal system for verifying his employees were legal. Either the system is broken, or ICE lied about it.

Speaking of which, did you hear about DHS going to grade schools and lying about having parental permission to take children out of class? bsky.app/.../3lr7mkb4a4s2j

[dustybiker2]

Oh yes. This is one thing I am watching closely.
They raided a car wash. The "employee" they targeted was washing his own family car. A paid customer.
So many stories now.

[goaded]

They just manhandled the senior United States senator from California out of a press conference about California.
files.mastodon.online/.../bdb0cef679c6d758.mp4

[dragoblack]

Yeah, im a town over from omaha Nebraska. ICE ignores legal id, Visa, and citizenship calling it all fake and just do whatever they want, to push for a white only USA

[dragoblack]

ICE is a terrorist organization. When fifa is held in the USA trump already announced they will raid the stadium

[Godihateyou]

So now you are ok with slave wages if its brown and not black. Evil amd ignorant racist.

[dustybiker2]

@Godihateyou I'm for allowing immigrants to work while waiting for their papers to process to become citizens. It is not a crime to feed your family or put a roof over their head in a foreign land when supporting the community of that land.

Trump ran on deporting criminals not just anyone. Obama held that numbers high and he did it without guns and threats as he did it legally.

[Godihateyou]

Of course you are ok with allowing cheap illegal labor to work for slave wages. While their papers process. Because you are ignorant to how long they take to process and the other brown people that try to do it the legal way. Because you are an ignorant liberal racist.

[goaded]

@Godihateyou That IS the legal way, idiot. This Trump supporter lost a third of his legal workforce:

"Vincent Scardina supported Donald Trump’s tough stance on immigration at the ballot box. But that decision came back to bite the roofing boss when ICE detained a third of his workforce.

The six men, all from Nicaragua, were pulled over in a work truck on May 27 while heading to a job—and carted off to jail.

According to the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office, deputies helped transport the men to a local detention facility “for deportation.”

Scardina, who runs a small roofing business in Florida’s Lower Keys, cannot believe it. “It’s quite a shock. You get to know these guys, you become their friends—not just an employer but a friend,” he told NBC6, visibly emotional.

Adding to Scardina’s annoyance, the men had valid work permits and pending asylum applications, according to their attorney Regilucia Smith. “They are legally here,” she said. “Valid work permit, not even close to expired… again, no criminal records—not here, not in Nicaragua.”"

www.thedailybeast.com/.../

[dustybiker2]

@goaded Facts sting.

[dustybiker2]

Thanks for MHO

[purplepoppy]

Interesting use of dark language there, a clear switch from immigrants to invaders. Sounds like a way of bypassing laws around immigration. I would have to ask the obvious question, if a group of people is deemed invaders does American law allow them to be killed? Thrown in POW camps? Surely you can only call people invaders if you're actually at war.

Now he has massed the military in LA what's stopping him from ordering a door to door extermination of "invaders"

[goaded]

You're right, "invader" is worse than "immigrant". It's scary stuff, and there are plenty on here cheering it on but at the same time calling me a Nazi because of where I live.

[dustybiker2]

"ICE" imposters already have broken into homes in the middle of the night. Search Oklahoma for your own right or left leaning news source, both have the story. The "agents" stole their life savings hidden in the home in cash. They are legal citizens.

[goaded]

@dustybiker2 I don't understand how people wearing fake ICE paraphernalia aren't arrested for impersonating LEOs. Or how companies are allowed to sell it.

[dustybiker2]

It is a lesson on just how weak America is. Every artery. Key gov agencies shuttered. Almost the entire school system. Propaganda forced into next school year. FBI, Gov Watchdogs, Veterans causes, USAID, FEMA, SSI, Medicare, healthcare workers. Nobody has acted. Just talk and walk. Not even riots when they would be justified. Unbelievable we are here.

[AyChingao]

It is the language that "others" people... vermin, parasite etc etc. Makes it easier for them to commit atrocities if the victims are less than human, OH and multiple black people have been murdered by law enforcemet in their homes under the guise of a "no-knock warrant" gone wrong.

[AyChingao]

It is out there, and the companies selling it may or may not be in America, but lets keep it real. They pardoned 1500 people that attacked the US capitol, do you think they care if a few vigilantes yake out some brown people?

[purplepoppy]

Only matter of time before some wannabe Rittenhouse is declared a hero for gunning down invaders.

[AyChingao]

Rittenhouse already is, so there's your precedent Doesn't have to be apples to apples exactly. Some places have things like "stand your ground" laws. You are only required to feel that you are in danger... helluva recipe there.

[goaded]

@AyChingao How many lies are acceptable? ↗

[AyChingao]

@dustybiker2 yep... every crevice they can dig their fingers into... almost like the entire system is complicir

[Avicenna]

You just can’t stop with the propaganda.

Illegals, especially ones with criminal records, are in no way analogous to innocent Jewish victims of the Nazis, nor are the illegals sent to anything like concentration camps. Illegals have no right to remain in countries they are in and deporting them is fully legal as well as a responsibility of government.

You cynically and dishonestly try to score political points on the back of the suffering of Jewish Holocaust victims. I’m not letting your sorry ass get away with it, especially when you, like most Europeans during the Holocaust, stand by and do nothing when Jews are targeted.

As a noncitizen, you no business telling the US to allow illegals in and to stay, especially under dishonest and false pretenses.

[mattthefatbat]

Even though i'm not jewish. I'm really glad you remembered Anne Frank. The holocaust was horrible.

But Hell No I will not turn in my neighbors. I don't care how much money they may offer it is simply inhumane.
Mostly because i have two reasons.

1. I care about other people's lives enough to not deliberately do things that fuck it up for them in the worst way imaginable.

2. turning in your neighbors on basis of pure suspicion and speculation makes no sense. It's like some crazy woman apart of HOA calls the cops on you for having a blue trampoline in your yard. Claiming the blue trampoline messes up the entire neighborhood.

America is not in a war. America is not being invaded. The borders are fine. The blue trampoline in my yard is not hurting anyone or anything.

[AviatorTom]

I won't stand in the way of ICE doing its job, but it's unlikely that I would turn in my neighbor, unless it was obvious they were illegal and committed a serious crime.

I'd report anyone who I know, via concrete evidence, has committed a serious crime, whether they be an illegal alien or resident citizen.

[NoDecision]

She was turned in for being a Jew, not an illegal immigrant. Some of these so-called neighbors may be running sex trafficking rings under your nose while posing as a good neighbor too.

[goaded]

Oh, dear, I didn't realise that the made up reason that made people suddenly no longer allowed in the country made such a difference.

So, in your mind, it would be bad if people were sent to concentration camps for being Jewish (the law having been changed to remove their right to be in the country), but perfectly OK for people who entered the US legally and have committed no crimes in the US or El Salvador to be sent to an El Salvador concentration camp without due process?

You do at least agree that the Nazis killed Anne Frank and that that was a bad thing, right?

www.cato.org/.../50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law

[NoDecision]

What don't you understand about entering the country illegally is a crime? Most of these people DID NOT enter legally. To do so you must have a sponsor and a job guaranteed. Just by being in the US illegally is a crime so they should be expelled to enter legally. You do realize your tax money is going to pay for all this rioting and looting. Just means less money for the poor.

[goaded]

I hate to burst your bubble of hate, but what you don't understand is that at least 50 of the people Trump sent to Cecot entered the country legally, and didn't commit any crimes while they were there.

Perhaps next time follow the links you're provided?

You do at least agree that the Nazis killed Anne Frank and that that was a bad thing, right?

[NoDecision]

I don't agree that if a person entered legally and didn't commit a crime that they would be sent to Cecot. Do you believe everything the news says?

[goaded]

I don't have to believe "everything" to believe this (fairly right-wing) organisation on this subject.

You still don't seem to be willing to answer the question about whether Anne Frank's death was due to the Nazis and a bad thing. Why is that?

[NoDecision]

She was only 1 of 6 million Jews that were murdered. Why are you only focused on her? But they also murdered millions of Russians too, not to mention Americans. Need I say that the Nazis were bad for everyone. The real shit of it is, few of these war criminals were punished for all those murders. All Germans sentenced to prison for their part of war crimes were let out of prison by the mid 50s. I'm not even going to go into how well German prisoners of war were treated in the US compared to how they treated others in their camps. Now our country is aiding in the murder of innocent Palestinians by Israel and Russians by Ukrainians. How are we any better than the Nazis?

[goaded]

I'm concentrating on Anne Frank because everybody knows her name, and because what happened to her is exactly what the US is doing to innocent immigrants today. Also, her death occurred early on, before the death camps; it was a step along that path.

Yes, in this time and in this place you do have to say that the Nazis were bad for everyone because there are many people on here who want to replicate that time, starting with trans people and immigrants this time.

A cynical reading of your post would say you still haven't explicitly said the Nazis were bad.

What I also see is that you think Russians are being murdered when all they had to do to avoid the deaths was to not invade another sovereign country. Russia could end the war tomorrow by withdrawing from Ukraine. Ukraine can't stop the war and continue to exist.

[NoDecision]

But we are not killing illegals, we are sending them back to where they came from. There many of them wind up coming back again. For some of them crime is more profitable than working.

[goaded]

No, you are not "sending them back to where they came from", not all of them, anyway. You're sending innocent people to a concentration camp in a third country with god knows what standards of hygiene.

[NoDecision]

So, just invite a bunch of them to live with you, feed them on your dime, clothe them, and clean up after them. They might wind up robbing you and dumping you out in the desert while they squat in your house. You must live in a sanctuary city.

[goaded]

You clearly support fascism and Putin.

[NoDecision]

I don't. I just don't like criminals in our country who, when they commit a murder, don't get sent to prison, they just get deported and then wind up coming back to kill again.

[goaded]

Yeah, that doesn't happen. Is this going back to the Trump lie about 13,000 convicted murderers "roaming free"?

"False.

While it is correct that 13,099 noncitizens on the ICE docket have been convicted of homicide, this data spans 40 years, and does not cover only the Biden-Harris administration, as Trump said. Nor can it be interpreted as having happened only "in the last short period of time." Furthermore, the figures include individuals who are in jails and prisons serving criminal sentences."

[dragoblack]

Nope, because i believe in the constitution and the fact this country is a hotpot of every culture around the world, not a country of nazi mentality white supremacists. We faught in a war against those kind of people, and i know the actual statistics on illegals in the usa, the illegals give the usa almost 1 trillion in taxes, while keeping our country's infrastructure from collapsing, and keeping inflation rate of food & necessities low. Meanwhile the percentage of crime caused by illegals is less than 5% because they have family to look out for and support.
Instead of rounding them up in terrorist style, ignoring the constitution, and ignoring legal paperwork, it would be cheaper just to give ones who have been here over 8 years with no criminal record legal citizenship.

[Dongie]

I would agree to that 8 year deal, but why not 5 years and only once to not influence illegal crossing.

[dragoblack]

I think it's 8 years in the military service to get legal citizenship normally. I was going off of that. Like if they have been a model citizen even if they are here illegally, citizenship shouldn't be a problem. Besides, them being citizens makes them pay more taxes, which government officials love.

[Dongie]

Forgiveness is a positive thing. And I like me amigos.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

If you ask me, that sounds terribly thuggish and inefficient.

I'd rather go for a more refined and psychological approach, like the Stasi did with their "Decomposition" methods. They managed to do with the backwards Communist technology of the GDR, with today's technology it would be the perfect technique.

[goaded]

Aren't they doing something like that? Palantir or something? Musk probably downloaded whole databases of private data from the government.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

They are still thugs, out for their own selfish interests.

[Orion84]

Can I report a foreign agent, instead?

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC.

[goaded]

Code name Krasnov,

[Orion84]

Exactly

[goaded]

There's speculation about what Putin has over Trump. The best I've seen is that they're his exam results from college/Wharton.

[Orion84]

He's probably got a copy of the Epstein files, too, since Trump will go to absolutely any lengths to keep those from becoming public.

[goaded]

So it seems.

Oh! Maybe Putin's in them?

[AyChingao]

No. I will be forewarning them if able and have info, and will happily beckon any brown people at the park across the street ro step inside if the ICE cream man is rolling through the neighborhood

[Dongie]

Low ridin'!

[AyChingao]

@Dongie lotsa brown folk in this neighborhood, known or known of most of 'em for years. I don't trust ICE to ID or do anything other than throw people in the van and then onto a plane. Just plain wrong.

[Dongie]

What's wrong is the democrats flinging the border open for four years at the cost of many innocent lives, peace, and billions of dollars.

[AyChingao]

@Dongie wrong. That's a Trumpian lie. Both Obama AND Biden deported more people than Trump during his first term, and they did it without throwing 4 year old girls with stage 4 cancer onto a plane with no due process whatsoever. With Trump it's not about results, it's all about the hate and cruelty... most things he talks about are made up, lies, or one off anecdotes. We are already in a fascism of his making if you didn't notice... congratulations

[Dongie]

@AyChingao

No, what I said is fact. And I doubt very much if any deportees from the Obama era went to court to determine that being here illegally, they need to be deported.

[AyChingao]

@Dongie no point discussing anything with hateful people that just want to fight. I"ve seen how you interacy with others and havr no use for that. Have a nice life.

[Dongie]

And I saw how you tall with your twisted friends. You don't know me lefty.

[AyChingao]

@Dongie guessing you are coomstrike as well nice mouth... now then... buh bye

[Kelley1]

Absolutely not because I am not a snitch. A snitch is worse than a son-of-a-bitch. A son-of-a-bitch inherits his condition, but a snitch cultivates his or her condition.

[blackeagle007]

You can’t

[exitseven]

Yes, in fact I went into work yesterday and there was a construction project going on one of the buildings. As I walked by I noticed than nobody was speaking English. Maybe I should drop a dime on them. Thanks for the phone number.

[UrbanLeather]

Yes because everyone must speak English because I get triggered by other languages am I right?

[exitseven]

@UrbanLeather If somebody really was interested in becoming an American they would be learning to speak English instead of expecting taxpayers to provide interpreters.

[UrbanLeather]

Nothing wrong with speaking languages that are not English!!

[UrbanLeather]

Unlike you, I am fine with people speaking different languages!! I do not get triggered and feel the need to look for my safe space if someone speaks a language that is different from my!!

[Jackblue]

Did you seriously compare immigration centers with Nazi camps? You liberals have no idea just how bad the world can get, thus you push for open borders from your suburbs in Vermont and Seattle while it is mostly red states who are expected to house and feed the pitiable people you lure in. You want immigrants coming here they should get to live in your houses, eat your food, and spend your money.

[loveslongnails]

What happened to "we're only going after the criminals" ? More lies from the "Liar King". This administration isn't even capable of identifying which individuals are the REAL criminals, so they just deport anyone of the wrong color or nationality. Their actions are criminal.

Virtually every undocumented worker in the USA is doing a job that Americans either don't want to do or don't know how to do. Think about that when your prices soar for work or products.

[DrPepper12]

These maggots are so stupid that if you were to tell them about the cultural revolution in China and how it applies to them the only thing they would understand and respond with is "I'm not a red chicom. Demonrats are commies!"

[Shiprex]

I won't be doing any of that but the moment a Trumptonite sets foot in my neighbourhood and treats my not so white neighbours badly there will be some pain coming to them.

[Godihateyou]

Absolutely. Already have. The over burdened schools population went down 33% my property value went up 22% and violent crime went down 18% the litter is almost all gone. Inconsiderate brown idiots unemployed blasting crap music after 11pm on a work night? Gone.

[DryGermanGuy]

Some really bad déjà-vus are re-appearing with these news...

[UrbanLeather]

I worry about my own damn life and how to improve it!! I can care less how my neighbors live their lives

[SmokinAces2000]

No, that shit is weird. I saw a video of a dude bragging about calling ice on a social media influencer for overstating his visa. These people take pride in snitching on people.

[captain_voidwalker]

Realy... comparing illegal aliens, people who violated the law when they entered the country, to ann frank. I'm pretty sure if she was still alive she'd kick your asses for besmirchinhbher good name

[Dongie]

I'm certain she would.

[goaded]

At least 50, over 20% of the people Trump sent to Cecot without due process had entered the US legally and not committed any crimes in the US since. They, like Anne, were legally in the country until they changed the law and sent them to a concentration camp.

[captain_voidwalker]

If they entered the country illegally guess what. Thats a fucking crime. And they're just sending them home not to a concentration camp.

[goaded]

Can you not READ? At least 50, over 20% of the people Trump sent to Cecot without due process had entered the US LEGALLY and NOT committed any crimes in the US since.

[captain_voidwalker]

Going to need a source on that info. Because right now I'm pressing F to doubt.

[goaded]

Sorry, forgot the link: www.cato.org/.../50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law

[captain_voidwalker]

Ahh yes the so called refugees. The ones the biden admin illegally admitted into the country. Whilst I do feel slightly bad about thier circumstances make no mistake the biden admin violated the law when they entered. That article though conveniently leaves that part of the story out.

[goaded]

No, they didn't leave anything out, it was the law.

[captain_voidwalker]

No the law for people seeking asylum is for them to go to the closest nation of safe harbor. For Venezuelans that's Mexico. The biden admin illegally admitted them into the violated international asylum laws.

[Joshydavid25]

Oh, yeah, because deporting illegals (mostly gang members) and rounding up Jews for killing and torture is totally the same thing.. Lmao.. These Trump and Hitler comparisons are ridiculous..

[Dongie]

It depends on if they've raped any kids or killed aanybody. I know the liberal way is to let them have whatever they want as long as it's not any of MY stuff. But I'm no stinkin' liberal!!

[Dongie]

Also, Anne was Jewish, you know gouda, the Germans object of jealousy and hate just like your ancestry.

[goaded]

Christ on a stick you're stupid. Your sort claim 20 million illegal immigrants who are all rapists and murderers, when there aren't enough crimes to go around. Hell, there probably aren't even that many shoplifting criminals.

[goaded]

Oh, and you still can't comprehend the concept of people moving countries, or three generations of learning about people like you leading to us being able to recognise you.

[Dongie]

🫰💥😂

[goaded]

You're an admitted Nazi.

[Dongie]

I SAID, 🫰💥😂

[goaded]

Try speaking English.

[Dongie]

Txrvy s#i$c%king y@r head ^u*y@r@$$ and see if it fits!

[goaded]

Pathetic waste of space.

[Dongie]

Moi?

[andreasderjuengere]

My present neighbours are filth.
But I won't give them attention - they don't even deserve my effort to get rid of them.

[Zack-Bann]

Imagine how much of a fucken rat do you have to be to tattle to the government of all people

[Friendlybro79]

How do I know if my neighbor is a legal or illegal immigrant? Honestly is the only metric to be suspicious is that they're not white?

[goaded]

Of course. Or if they have a black cat. Oh, sorry, wrong moral panic.

[LunarEclipse433]

There has been a legal process to become a US citizen for a long time. Those here now illegally came to the US knowing they were illegal. Try going to another country illegally

[goaded]

Overstaying your visa is a civil offense, not a criminal one. Many of these people have been arrested while following the rules for them to stay in the country, most of them have not committed any crimes.

[LunarEclipse433]

If you are staying on falsified documents or information it can be criminal

[goaded]

It can be, yes.

[goaded]

But the government should have to prove it, not just send people to concentration camps in third countries.

[LunarEclipse433]

Not exactly. If you are not a US citizen you are not afforded the legal protections a US citizen has. The burden of proof falls on the individual to prove they have met all the legal requirements and been approved to be a US citizen.

[goaded]

Yes, you are. The constitution is unusually clear on that point.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." (14th Amendment.)

Note: "citizens", vs. "person".

If they weren't in the jurisdiction of the United States, the United States would have no right to detain, arrest, or deport them, that's what jurisdiction means!

[Staximus]

No, but are you so stupid that you don't know the difference between legal and illegal immigration?

[goaded]

You know that at least 50 of the people rotting in CECOT hadn't broken any laws in the US, not even immigration laws? How was that "illegal immigration"? Why are they in a concentration camp?

www.cato.org/.../50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Only if I knew they were an awful person. But never because the president was making excuses to hate brown people.

[beefcakebradybatson]

How Hitlerian !!!

[RedInnocent69]

OMFG 🙀 Is that an actual ad?

[goaded]

Yes, it is. Posted on the DHS twitter account which generally looks like they've outsourced it to Fox News.

[goaded]

It wasn't their own creation, but the link is in the update.

[jahaims]

Good attempt at using logic

[OddBeMe]

Only if they're ICE agents

[Panthero80]

My neighbors are not illegal immigrants.