Should US citizens be preparing themselves for more frequent incidents of political violence now?

[Anonymous]

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/political-violence-is-threaded-through-recent-us-history-the-motives-and-justifications-vary/

[Anonymous]

Yes. Rather than condemn a Republican pro-Trump MAGA member for killing politicians in Minnesota, they bury their head in the sand and make up conspiracies about how it's a Democrat who decided to go target Democrats lol. Trump will probably just pardon him. Hopefully the state charges stick so Trump can't do anything about those.

[lightbulb27]

yes of course... and learn how to de-escalate.

wasn't long ago people were being randomly attacked on the street. you always gotta keep your wits about you.

its' safter in japan and taiwan, but still... not too bad in usa, just watch out.

[goaded]

Ever since Trump started telling his supporters to rough up protesters at his rallies.

[OneViewpoint]

Now? If it wasn't apparent to you before where this Reich Wing Fascism that voting for tRump was gonna unleash is going, nah, kick back and relax. You're good.

[DrPepper12]

Yes. Right wing violence is a clear & present danger to the Republic. Left wing violence is rare in USA & resulted in overtime, the weekend, social security, legal unions & much more.

[Cormac995]

Sadly, yes, I think so. I think we should expect killings from people on the far left and the far right. I'm worried this is going to escalate to a second bleeding Kansas at this point.

[goaded]

Why both sides?

[Cormac995]

@goaded Because both sides are full of unstable maniacs that are completely unhinged and mentally ill. The far left is as bad as the far right.

[goaded]

Really? Since the Weather Underground in the 1970's, who are the left-wing killers?

[Cormac995]

@goaded www.nbcnews.com/.../details-nashville-shooters-gender-identity-sow-confusion-disinformatio-rcna77424 This is a left-wing article about it but basically some crazy leftist trans kid shot up a Christian school and killed people. There are examples. Violence isn't exclusive to the right there are multiple people at the LA riots that right now I think belong in jail with attempted murder charges. You can't throw bricks at a moving car and not say you're trying to hurt or kill that person because you're trying to make them crash their car. It's attempted murder.

[Cormac995]

@goaded I'm not saying "trans people bad" I'm saying "far lefters crazy"

[goaded]

Yes, and you're lying. One example of a bullied kid since the 1970's, compared to many right-wing killers, especially since Trump gave them permission. How do you think all the pardoned Jan 6 convicts feel, cowed, or encouraged?

[Cormac995]

@goaded I'm just saying anyone on any side is capable of violence if they are angry and unstable and its on full display. Denying it doesn't change the fact it exists. I know it's just a couple examples, but my point is the right does not have a monopoly on violence and anyone who says they do is lying. I've had people threaten me for not sharing their views that were on the left and I've seen them threaten others too. You also see them constantly doxing people and that is a form of violence because everyone knows that the goal of doxing is to let unwell people know where someone lives. Yes the right does this too but so does the left. Neither side is free of fault the stupid push and pull between the two of them bickering is how both sides became so extreme and our country became so divided. When two parties try to unit their members through hate of the other it splits the country and that ALWAYS leads to violence. Look at Hasan Piker, he posts guides on how to make improvised weapons, he promotes terrorist propaganda, and he advocates for violence against political officials. Also that guy who shot that jewish couple was far left too and that was just a couple months ago. He gunned down an engaged couple in the street even executing the groom when he desperately tried to save his already dead fiancé he died in fear misery and terror because some crazy far left nut job thought he was "Freeing Palestine". Then there was the other guy screaming free Palestine who threw Molotov at a peaceful rally for the release of the October 7th hostages. One of the women he set on fire was a holocaust survivor. The left has plenty of violent people in it anyone who says they don't is lying.

[goaded]

No, you're not "just saying anyone on any side is capable of violence", you're saying that here and now both sides are exhibiting comparable amounts of violence. That's not true.

You didn't even have "just a couple examples" it was one example.

I'm not saying the right has a monopoly on violence, which is why I brought up the Weather Underground. Show me some examples of the left doing anything but peacefully protest outside the home of a "doxxed" person (oh, please mention the one who turned himself in). The Minnesota murderer went to Democratic state lawmakers' homes and shot them, their spouses, and even their dog. IT IS NOT BOTH SIDES!

[Cormac995]

@goaded "You didn't even have "just a couple examples" it was one example."

Now you're just lying I also pointed out the incidents with the people screaming free Palestine but your conveniently left those out. I can have a debate with a reasonable person but when you start lying to support an argument, I just proved wrong you can go fuck yourself. I can have a conversation in good faith but someone who gas lights and straw mans is too far beneath my boot and dignity to waste my time with.

[Cormac995]

@goaded Also that dumbass didn't turn himself in. He said he would then he didn't and was arrested instead. Further that doesn't un dox the people he doxed the damage is done.

[goaded]

Apologies, you later gave other sort of examples without links in a wall of text. However, I won't believe you about Hasan Piker and improvised weapons until I see a link, and the free Palestine people aren't being violent because they're left-wing, they're being violent because a whole country is being wiped out. How "left-wing" do you think radical Muslims are, anyway?

As to the Kavanaugh "assassin", he phoned 9-1-1 and was still on the phone when officers arrived to arrest him; how is that not turning yourself in?

[Cormac995]

@goaded because he didn't turn himself in they found him because the dumb ass called them, and they followed his phone. As for the radical guy who did the shooting was left, he was a pro Palestine American 30 seconds mark Hasan says Iran should have a nuclear weapon. 57 second mark Hasan tweets instructions on how to make an improvised weapon. 1:01 min mark Hasan glazes a Houthi terrorist on stream claiming he's a "Journalist" while comparing the Houthi pirate to the hero from one peace. https://youtu.be/Le9uP_njkB8 Here's Hasan saying we should kill senator rick Scott. www.youtube.com/shorts/K7FoTVHgT7M?feature=share Here's Hasan saying Hezbollah has his favorite flag. https://youtu.be/Hi4kkTFJ4HI Here's Hasan saying he doesn't care if there were rapes on Oct 7th. www.youtube.com/shorts/tCH3Hb9BDGM?feature=share and here's Hasan praising a Houthi terrorist comparing saying the Houthis are doing what Luffy would do who is the main character from one peace and seen as the hero of the manga. www.youtube.com/shorts/w69DzhslnXM?feature=share and here's Hasan losing his special "Fast Pass" access at the airport because he's done this so damn much the US government is looking into him.

[Cormac995]

@goaded Not to mention I don't even know where to start with the war he's waging against Ethan un provoked. Too bad he picked it though his side is getting raped online because they're fucking stupid. Ethan has made it his mission to destroy them because they called CPS on his kids based on lies.

[Cormac995]

@goaded here's a left wing source disavowing the killer BECAUSE he's left wing and terrible for their image. www.politico.com/.../shooting-progressives-response-jewish-museum-00365765 and here's one about the guy who set people on fire. I did admittedly seem to get one thing wrong or at least it's unsubstantiated Mohamed Sabry Soliman was an egyptian here on a visa that expired and he was here illegally. I'm not going to lay this at the lefts door though because blaming the actions of an immigrant on a party just because it happened during their watch is BS he likely would have gotten in anyways with how our system works. Immigration in this country IS broken the problem is Trump is the last guy who should be fixing it. He's stupid and sadistic.

[Cormac995]

@goaded What I will say is this is almost certainly connected to the free Palestine shooter though because it happened so close it probably inspired him to do it www.cnn.com/.../boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-mohamed-soliman-invs

[Cormac995]

@goaded Also the kid your defending had a felony for stalking and illegally had a police scanner so he didn't just dox people who have come foreword saying they and their families are being bombarded with threats so he's a bad example of a person that should be praised or defended. www.msn.com/.../ar-AA1GpEvU

[Cormac995]

@goaded Alos I just realized I forgot to say I accept your apology and thank you for returning things to a polite discussion and I hope none of this came across as a personal attack. That said you did ask for sources so each one of these ahs Hasan saying it himself. I'm thorough with my research on everything I do. It's rare that I'm miss informed though yes it does happen.

[goaded]

Of course calling 9-1-1 and telling them you're thinking of committing a crime is turning yourself in. If you still want to commit the crime, you don't call 9-1-1 and tell them!

You think this image is Hasan Piker posting a guide on how to make improvised weapons?


At least one of your videos is someone ranting senselessly about PIker, I think. It's hard to make sense of. Is it worth looking at others or are they all the same?

Why should I care about two "influencers" boosting their income with a probably fake fight? You must know it's as real as pro wrestling, right?

I'm not saying the guy who thought about killing Kavanaugh was pure and innocent, I'm saying he didn't seriously try.

Counter-example: "A Pennsylvania man who was arrested on weapons charges at a “No Kings" protest against the Trump administration on Saturday is facing more than two dozen additional charges after investigators said they found a cache of homemade bombs at his home outside Philadelphia."

[Cormac995]

@goaded My point was never that the right doesn't commit violence my point was that the left is violent too and I've proved it repeatedly and that is by definition Hasan showing people how to make and Improvised weapon. What the influences said was completely irrelevant the only words that mattered in those clips were the ones that came out of Hasans own mouth in those clips, you could ignore everything said by the content creators and what he said still proves me right.

The left is not non violent, the left is not pure, the left is not the solution and the left are not heros. They are part of the problem and the far lefters acting crazy like this and raising hell in those riots are as bad as MAGA is. I said the right doesn't have a monopoly on violence I have proved that. I have said Hasan supports terrorists I have proved that. If you ignore what I say at this point you are willfully choosing ignorance which is what every single MAGA voter did when they voted for trump. You're being a living example of my entire point right now that the left is just as ill-informed and ignorant as the right because I've handed you truth on a silver platter and you're still ignoring it.

Counter-example: "A Pennsylvania man who was arrested on weapons charges at a “No Kings" protest against the Trump administration on Saturday is facing more than two dozen additional charges after investigators said they found a cache of homemade bombs at his home outside Philadelphia."

The Jan 6th protesters got the same treatment doing the same things. The only difference now is the shoe is on the other foot. I'm not supporting the Jan 6th I'm saying it's another point of the hypocrisy both sides display with their narrative.

[goaded]

Yes, this image totally allows anyone to create an "improvised weapon".


True, "The left is not non violent, the left is not pure", but the left didn't try to steal the presidency on Jan 6, or at any other time, the right did. The left didn't lie about elections, the right did. The left didn't break the law to deport people, the right did. The left didn't send people who hadn't broken a single crime in the US to a prison in a foreign land, the right did. The left never claimed a president is above the law, the right did. They never needed to. The left never claimed a president's SCOTUS nominee should be ignored because an election is a year away, the right did. The left didn't push through a president's SCOTUS nominee while votes were being cast in an election, the right did. The left never proposed a budget to throw millions of Americans off their health insurance, the right is. The left never stopped congresspeople from their legal right of oversight, the right is...

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[Cormac995]

@goaded Your right the left isn't doing that they're just destroying property protecting criminals defending genocidal terrorist groups committing anti sematic hate crimes and murders advocating for pedophiles in their LGBTQ + shit trying to force people to call a woman a man and a man a woman and take away the achievements and rights of both and censer anyone they disagree with calling them a nazi and saying their opinion is hate speech because they don't agree with it. They also promote bullshit policy just like the right and ruin every state they get a tight grip on just like the right does in states where thy're have total control. This left or right bipolar political BS is dividing the country. Neither side is free of fault this is a feedback loop of extremism on both ends that's going to get more people killed cause more pain and help no one. The left is just as selfish as the right they just want different things at the cost of everyone else. They're both sick, they've both pissed me off and they've both made my life actively worse. I hate them both with a passion.

[goaded]

I know I'm right. Which is worse - property damage or stealing the presidency? How do you know people are criminals without due process under the law? What, exactly, do you have against addressing people the way they prefer?

People saying it's a good thing that innocent people are being put in foreign prisons to rot are Nazis, or close as makes no difference.

This is a good example of how the left make arguments based on facts, and the right (you!) repeat nonsense. "They're eating the cats!" is hate speech; it's untrue and accusing a whole mass of people. It's also called that not because the left doesn't like it, it's because it's simply not true.

If you don't like left-v-right, maybe pay attention to democracy-v-fascism.

[Cormac995]

@goaded I don't have a problem with addressing people how they want to be I have a problem with biological men saying they're the same as a biological woman when they're not I have a problem with biological men in womans sports, and I have a problem with them because they have consistently gone out for their way to make it my problem.

I used to support the LGB but as they started adding more letters and the good voices got drowned out by narcissists I checked out. It takes two to fight if the left wasn't biting back at the right as hard as they are the right wouldn't be doing the same. Trump is the result of people being sick. Now you're straw manning again talking about the cat thing which I never even mentioned and know is false and propaganda which is why I didn't bring it up. I have no illusions that MAGA is fascist but the majority of Trump voters aren't fascist, or Trump wouldn't have won by such a large margin.

[Cormac995]

@goaded Trump won because they want people like you to finally shut the fuck up and stop insulting them, gas lighting them and bullying them. Come to find out when you spend your time shitting on someone, they tend to want payback, and the reality is most of the modern left's views are bullshit that isn't important or is outright wrong.

As for knowing you're right you know nothing but ignorance and have proved you're a fucking idiotic ignorant moron. You throw a fit when you don't win. You gas light, straw man, lie and present no proof to back your points ignoring the proof you are given by your opponent because it makes you look like the buffoon you are. People like YOU are the fucking problem with the left you fucking retard. Pull your head out of your ass wipe the shit our of your eyes and do some fucking self-reflection and research before you make yourself look like a bitch again. I'll be blocking you after this I'm done with wasting my time on jack ass, rude, blivit brained, retarded mother fuckers. You've spent two days being a textbook example of my entire point. Congratulations you played yourself.

[Cormac995]

@goaded willful ignorance is even worse than normal ignorance you're as big a sheep and as fucking indoctrinated and stupid as the MAGA cultists are.

[Cormac995]

@goaded And as usual you ignored every point I made you didn't have a defense for and honed in on the only things you thought you had a chance of wining at witch you didn't you little fucking bitch.

[goaded]

Four responses, with profanity, to one message is not a good indication of clarity of thought. How many trans people have you competed against in sports competition, exactly? I'm guessing zero.

"Trump wouldn't have won by such a large margin."
More people voted against him than for him, and I bet you didn't think Obama's much larger majority entitled him to do anything he wanted.

What, exactly, do you think this weapon would do?

[Still-alive]

the only violence happening are ice against peaceful immigrants and law enforcement against peaceful protestors.

[Dargil]

Yes. Buy guns and ammo. Get qualified. Plan on a home invasion.

[FunkyMonkee]

Possibly. You just never know what that retarded lefties will do next!

[Anonymous]

Until taco is physically removed from office. Yes.