Does anyone else think the political landscape is getting too violent?

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In light of what has happened today

exitseven · Accepted Answer

When one side feeds the population a steady diet for "Trump is a facist" ""ICE is disappearing citizens" "Republicans are racist" and "death to America" there is bound to be some very suggestable people out there that will get a gun and kill somebody that they have been told is a bad person and should be killed.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Absolutely. It's been brewing for nearly 30 years. The left has been calling the right nazis and fascists. 20 years ago it was racists and sexists. Evidently, these people cannot be reasoned with.

abc3643 · Answer

Well, of course, but this all began in 1988, so it really shouldn't have been unexpected.

See this guy?

No, not the guy on the left. He's President now. In large part because he and his apparatchiks in the GOP learned a lot from the guy on the right. That guy's name was Lee Atwater and he's using a sunscreen lotion with and SPF of a zillion while burning in Hell right now.

Lee Atwater was the 1988 GOP Presidential Campaign Chairman when Vice President George H. W. Bush (aka Bush 41) ran for and then became President. Bush was a rather bland guy - certainly compared to Ronald Reagan - and was even perceived by many to be "wimpy". President Bush had class and came from a wealthy background - a blue blood family with a history of politics going back to his grandfather who was a US Senator from Maine. So, using nasty negative tactics would have been beneath the Bush clan. So, instead, they hired Lee Atwater and HE did all the nasty shit no one in the Establishment (GOP or DEM) would do. He "went there" and did incredibly vile evil shit.

So evil that even God got fed-up with him.

So, God gave Satan a heads-up to start digging a new even deeper circle of Hell as God promply gave Atwater brain cancer. Bush was elected President in November 1988 and became President in January 1989. Atwater's cancer was detected in March 1990 and he was dead in March 1991 a month after turning 40. At least Atwater's not lonely in Hell; Rush Limbaugh is with him.

What Atwater did is rather numerous to recount and I don't want to get pissed-off again but here's a 1981 example. This is when he discussed the "Southern Strategy" to get Southern racists to vote for the GOP.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/X_8E3ENrKrQ

Suffice it to say that politics was still more or less a pleasant business during the Reagan Administration as Democrats and Republics still worked well together. And, despite Bush winning the Presidency, for the most part, the DEMs and GOP still worked well together. One problem was Clarence Thomas who replaced Thurgood Marshall and that was a major turning point in why the Supreme Court is so fucked up now. Anyway, Atwater was a divisive figure meaning he deliberately created divisions and incited hatred and used bigotries. It didn't matter to him. He was the ultimate modern Machiavellian. Like I said: He was evil and God took him out. God may be patient, but there comes a point when even God won't tolerate you any more. And that's what happened to Atwater.

However, because Atwater died and couldn't work on Bush's re-election campaign in 1992, Bill Clinton, who presented as a moderate baby-boomer Democrat from the South, was able to become President making Bush 41 a 1-term President. That really pissed off the GOP Establishment. Clinton's nickname was Slick Willy and, well, he earned that nickname. Clinton was an idealistic Kennedy-loving hippy-type believing in government and public service to make the country and the world a better place. With that idealism, he became Governor of Arkansas in 1978. However, that's when Carter, a former fellow Southern Governor, was President. Times were bad in the 1970s and Carter, while a man of unquestioned morals, was not a very energetic and charismatic leader. That's why Reagan, who was, got elected in 1980 - but, the voters didn't just reject Carter... they rejected many Democrats, especially down South. So, Clinton lost re-election in 1980 and learned from that that idealism of politics gave way to the realities of politics. Thus, even though, deep down, he and Hillary were always idealists, Bill Clinton came across as Slick Willy. I can't really comment on that, but Clinton was smart and he likely used subtle tactics (Google "Clinton Fist") that he used successfully to become Governor of Arkansas again and then later President. Bush didn't help himself either though - he was out of touch with most people and his opposition to the Family Medical Leave Act is one big thing that did him in. (Clinton passed it very early in his Presidency.)

Anyway, like I said, with Atwater gone and having to go up against Slick Willy, the GOP lost the 1992 re-election of Bush 41. Furthermore, Clinton won a plurality, not a majority, because Ross Perot was a strong third-party candidate in 1992. That pissed them off to no end. But, early in the Clinton Administration in 1993, First Lady Hillary Clinton - an unelected official - because involved in creating a health care plan. A lot of conservatives didn't like this "co-presidency" since no First Lady was ever actually involved in the political process before and she was not elected. There was a bad reaction to that. So, those who learned from Atwater - like Karl Rove and future Speaker Newt Gingrich - began with the shit. So, by 1994, we had the Contract On Ameri... uh,... Contract With America (that's what the GOP called it) and did well in the mid-terms. But, it was that period... 1994ish... when the divisiveness began with the GOP after having learned how successful it was with Atwater in 1988.

As Atwater was dying, supposedly he tried to apologize to everyone he fucked over. Maybe he realized he sold his soul to achieve greatness. Who knows? He allegedly found God and read his Bible... except, after he died and they were cleaning out his things, they found that Bible and it was still in its cellophane wrapping. Evil full-of-shit scumbag right to the end.

There. That's your very important history lesson: The modern divisiveness that, of course, would lead to violence began with Lee Atwater and, since he died young, taken up by his acolytes in the GOP including Donald Trump.

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Anonymous · Answer

Yes. And this comment section is proving why. It's always "they" and finger pointing. The left did this, the right did that. Both sides are groomed to hate the other; can't prove me wrong on this either. Everyone plays the blame game. One takes the hard road to find common ground and get to the root of our collective issues.

I despised Charlie and his views. He was a trash human being. Doesn't mean he deserved to be killed. And in front of his family no less. What bothers me is that people are using that as "Oh the left needs to own this! This is what they wanted! It's us vs them now!" Like, no the fuck it is not the left that needs to own it. If you look at a lot of the most influential left figures, they're all outraged and saying that anyone celebrating it his death is wrong. But we need someone to blame and blaming "them" is always the easiest solution.

Genuinely tired of our party blaming the left for all of our problems as if we don't cause more than half of it ourselves (collectively).

lightbulb27 · Answer

I think the rhetoric from the left has been threatning for long time and now, quite a few are armed. I suspect as what happened with the CEO shooting, many will see this as "it's fair" and he's a martyr. That's beyond sick as he was just stating his opinions and asking questions. He held no power.

I suspect it's dangerous and results in more security for some and crackdowns and spying on others. We will find out.

What this means to all of us is more spying and more expense.

AviatorTom · Answer

Back before the year 2000, Democrats and Republicans worked together, Sure, they had their disagreements, but they usually reached a compromise.

Then the 2000 Presidential election happened,. The Democrats believed the election was stolen from them, all because of hanging chad in Florida. Fast forward a few years to the 2020 election, where Republicans believed the election was stolen because of the changed voting rules (mail-in voting, for example) that resulted in the highest vote totals of any election.

So, Democrats and Republicans no longer work together, they blame each other for their losses.

Sad. Will it ever end? We can only hope so. Maybe it's time to elect an Independent President (2028, maybe 2032?) who can bring everyone together again?

dwreborn · Answer

Yes definitely it's only gonna get worse unless these people will put there party aside and do what's right or they all should be fired and put all new in something has to change iam just throwing ideas out there what do others think would fix our government?

Danny_dan92 · Answer

The left are once again proving to be everything they accuse others of doing/being.

They say republicans are violent.. REALLY? That’s why of all the attacks on political figures lately only 2 were democrat. All the rest were on republican figures.

And for them to say that Charlie is violent, the FUCKEN IRONY. The man did not shoot, punch, push, spit on, slap, throw shit at people he debated. He simply used words. Also ironic how the people that claim to want to ban guns and criticize Charlie for being pro 2A, USE GUNS to carry out these attacks on politicians they hate.

LarryWheels · Answer

Blame the MSM (CNN, MSNBC, ABC), as well as, radical left wing echo chambers and organizations that constantly tell people on the left that those on the right are nazis, fascist and evil. It was always going to head in this direction, when the media make articles like these in order to generate views for themselves. Places like reddit are not any better as they heavily censor people on the right, so those that go on that site only hear life wing propaganda and become even more radicalized in their belief that the right is evil.

Anonymous · Answer

Pushing for non-stop violence and hatred is crazy and it's time to stop pretending that it's both sides. The left calling everyone who supports the current President a "nazi" is wild while it's the LEFT politically assassinating people who speak out with a differing opinion.

Political gaslighting. Already, conservatives are making huge efforts to make sure we don't riot in the streets, yet if this had been the opposite situation, cities would already be burning from those on the "tolerant left".

Snakeyes7 · Answer

Yes and I 100% blame the legacy media and you can never hate these people (if you can even call them that) enough. They want those who are distrusting of them dead and they think it is funny. When they call you a fascist or a Nazi or whatever, they are marking you for death by justifying why you must be killed. What happened to Kirk and Trump is proof of this.

Hardon-Collider · Answer

Yes. The political sphere is just a social system. Its violence is a symptom of the spiritual battle between the individuality we are meant to develop and the 'dragon'—the hardened, material forces of control and power that pull at us when we lack a conscious spiritual foundation.

BadApple69 · Answer

I think it’s coming to a head. Leftist policies and rhetoric is causing all this BS to happen. Because of the leftist there was 2 attempts on Trumps life, now Charlie Kirk, the Ukrainian girl on the train and so so many more because of bad policies.

es20490446e · Answer

Politicians are promoting hate, to divert from the real problems of citizens.

The fake problems are ideology and group thinking.

The real problems are things access to health, education and quality jobs. Or training in soft skills like critical thinking, self management, finances, emotional intelligence, leadership, or healthy lifestyle.

They are just manufacturing easy to manipulate and to control citizens, through tribal thinking, lack of culture, and financial domination.

Tamera952 · Answer

Getting? It already has been. Too many guns, too many people have easy access to them—then you throw in stochastic violence and low-IQ people that live in informational bubble, …. what could go wrong?

Friendlybro79 · Answer

Yes and I think people are way too desensitized, lacking empathy in general, as well as doom and gloom. So many people, especially are ok with so much hate and violence as long as it's not directed at people like themselves.

Anonymous · Answer

It’s such a frustrating experience to spend so much time struggling to convince people to give even a single shit about the lives and welfare of other people and suddenly be lectured on MY lack of humanity over a guy who dedicated his entire adulthood to making people hate each even more.

Cormac995 · Answer

Well, we have republicans and democrats wacking each other in the street like its bleeding Kansas again so I'd say yea.

mrshooiser · Answer

Well the leftist liberals use violence and guns to kill people. So not surprising.

onedarkcloud · Answer

The AMERICA LAST DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA has been pushing violence for years, and it is coming to fruition now. What they have to watch for now is that they will reap what they have sown in kind!

Kaneki05 · Answer

It's always been Violent if more so in the past so no not really. JFK, Abraham ya know he was living in a civil war, Hitler, WW1, Vietnam, 9/11? Since when has Politics not been super violent. I don't see such a time.

Vevv123 · Answer

I think the amount of security politicians have is questionable.

genericname85 · Answer

no i think people are getting too violent and this is gonna get worse as the economical situation gets worse and worse. media isn't making a big deal of it but our financial situation currently is worse than it was back in "the great depression". so that's gonna fire more hatred. and guess what's the NRAs solution is gonna be: more guns should fix the problem xD it's morbidly funny to watch the shit show that is the current reality we are living in.

avery58 · Answer

Yes, the government on both sides is indoctrinating division. Enough with the political obsession.

FunkyMonkee · Answer

Yeah, isn't it weird how all the people that claim they hate guns and those who favour them are the ones that keep using them? So, I guess, if we didn't have guns, that guy would've had to go up and noogie Charlie Kirk to death?

PrettyCrumblBb · Answer

It's the left. They are violent. Their politicians are always promoting violence against the right.

LiamJHayden · Answer

Maybe it's cyclical? In the 1960's a President, his brother who would have won, and the greatest Civil Rights Leader of the Century were all assassinated.

MemeSupreme · Answer

yeah its too violent  it reminds me of the 1960s bc multiple movement leaders were assassinated

dustybiker2 · Answer

Surprised people haven't revolted heavily before now. In mass it would have nipped it in the bud from get go. America is pretty pacifist.

Anonymous · Answer

I’m really tired of everyone pointing fingers at each other or deflecting. I don’t even know what the proper solution is but the violence is ridiculous

Agape93 · Answer

Oh it'll get worse. The downside to years and years of political messaging of fear and anger, is eventually it reaches a crescendo.

Anonymous · Answer

We know exactly which side is doing this. It's the side that wants to defund police.

Anonymous · Answer

yes and this is NOT a both sides issue only one side has been guilty of celebrating assassinations on the other side

Anonymous · Answer

Liberals love criminals and guns, they just don’t want you to protect yourself

Vegasrunner · Answer

Um, politics has always been violent. That's a huge part of it.

Hellraiser1984 · Answer

Very much so. I don't tell anyone my political stances ever.

Anonymous · Answer

Civil war is coming, one side needs to eliminate the other forever Burn the history and make any associated organizations illegal

DexWest · Answer

It hasn’t even begun, but I fully believe the gloves have been taken off.

foxsquirrell · Answer

Is your question with reference to what just happened to Charlie Kirk there in the US? Or are you talking about politics all over the world?

Sal_Monella · Answer

Not yet. We haven't started shooting back.

UniquelyBasic · Answer

This is what happens when one side *the right* plays victim every chance they get and doesn't acknowledge any wrong doing their side does and acknowledge the violent and idiotic rhetoric they advocate for.

seeyounexttuesday · Answer

It's one side doing the violence.

noohair · Answer

It is an unintended consequence of tribalism.

ohsheeT · Answer

Its being made to get worse

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

It’s been too violent for a long time.

Staximus · Answer

Yeah everybody needs to calm the fuck down

jshm2 · Answer

No. Just another day, in the USA.

BarryLiverstone · Answer

What happened today?

Amur8711 · Answer

Yes, it is. But isn't only by one side.

DrPepper12 · Answer

Getting?

Anonymous · Answer

It looks that way...

Anonymous · Answer

Definitely.

beefcakebradybatson · Answer

YA THINK?

Anonymous · Answer

Not really

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