Should republican politicians even bother trying to pull the scam of rewriting voting maps?

[Anonymous]

"Why are they wearing masks?"

Early vacay so the criminal in chief can attempt to escape the congressional Epstein file release vote.
Republican politicians are returning home to find out their towns no longer want them. "You no longer represent us. It's time for you to step down." **loud cheers*

Ouch.

Is a big blue wave coming? 🌊

Yes. Scam and cheat.

No. This is America.

[abc3643]

Sure. They can. Gerrymandering is a time-dishonored tradition in American politics and, as long as it is not too egregious, it is permissible. However, with this current conservative supermajority on the US Supreme Court, the GOP more or less has carte blanche to fuck over America and turn it into a Christian theocratic dictatorship as predicted in Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tale".

Be prepared to change your name to "Of[husband or man who owns you]", e. g., Offred from that novel.

[Dongie]

True this! They need to prioritize investigations of the democrat politician and thousands of "good little liberal" voters and get some prosecutions and convictions. Oooof, it will make for thrilling TV!!

[Anonymous]

Well the Democrats have the pedophile vote sewed up and I think they're going to need a little bit more than just those criminals so they can elect more criminals to do more crime.

[Dongie]

Mrs. DrPepper I presume? 🦜

[cindy5]

Gavin Newsom is doing the same thing in California.

[Dongie]

You have to speak loudly sometimes or they'll ignore you. Especially if you're exposing hypocrisy.

[goaded]

@Dongie Gavin Newsom is proposing temporary redistricting IF Texas and other red states gerrymander for Republicans like Trump wants them to. There's a difference between attacking and defending yourself, but you'd love it if people didn't know that.

[Dongie]

Oh, I forgot! Your side NEVER does anything wrong or illeagal!! Yeah 🙄

[goaded]

@Dongie As usual, you don't care about the facts or democracy.

If Texas doesn't suck Trump off and steal five house seats, California will not respond and take six. It's simple as that.

Gerrymandering should be unconstitutional. In Wisconsin, Democrats earned 53% of the vote for Assembly races in 2018, they won only 36% of the districts.

[Avicenna]

Interestingly, the Democratic Party is polling at all-time lows in terms of approval. Funny how our anonymous CCP propagandist didn’t mention that.

[DrPepper12]

Well they have the pedophile vote sewed up and I think they're going to need a little bit more than just those criminals so they can elect more criminals to do more crime

[Dargil]

You have all the receipts that he is a pedo, ready to post. Waiting...

[Avicenna]

@Dargil: Peppers is a Jew who supports Hamas, so he’s used to accepting propaganda without question and expects others to do the same.

[Avicenna]

I’d say it’s more likely the pedophiles vote for Democrats since that party always wants convicts and prison inmates voting.

[Dargil]

@Avicenna He's part of the Trump Hate Squad, here. I'm building a list.

[Avicenna]

@Dargil ; Ih yeah, he’s definitely one of the pathological and illogical haters

[Dargil]

@Avicenna I think Pepper's wee wee just shrunk away.

[Dongie]

Alrighty, no need for me here! thanks guys!!

[goaded]

Democratic states should do the same and explain why, while proposing a constitutional amendment making gerrymandering illegal.

[Avicenna]

Such an amendment would be unconstitutional, even if the Democrats actually wanted it (which they don’t), because redrawing Congressional districts is clearly a power given by the Constitution to the states.

Democratic states like California and Illinois have already said they want to redistrict. Funny how leftists aren’t aware of that.

[goaded]

@Avicenna There's no such thing as an unconstitutional amendment to the constitution, idiot.

[Avicenna]

LMAO. I’ve told you many times before that you don’t understand the US, goaded, and you get your sole information from leftist propaganda sources.

Read this, it is a good, broad examination of the relevant issues:

legalclarity.org/.../

[Avicenna]

Now, do you even know how a proposed amendment to the Constitution becomes law?

[goaded]

@Avicenna OMG. How can an amendment to the constitution be unconstitutional, dumbass?

There's no such thing as an unconstitutional amendment to the constitution. Once it's ratified, it's part of the constitution. Duh!

[Avicenna]

Goaded, sometimes you just have to admit you don’t know everything and that you’re prone to confirmation bias and a lot of prejudices.

You don’t understand federalism in the US, so let me make it simple for you- according to the federal Constitution, redistricting is done by state legislatures- it’s not a power reserved to the federal government. That means individual states would have to restrict gerrymandering without falling afoul of any state or federal laws. Courts consider gerrymandering a political issue, not a constitutional one.

Now, let’s look at your idea in practical terms. So you enact a ban on gerrymandering. Who sets the district lines and what are the criteria for deciding which parts of a state end up in a particular district?

[goaded]

@Avicenna How about you admit you can't face facts? There's no such thing as an unconstitutional amendment to the constitution. Just read the bloody words!

"according to the federal Constitution, redistricting is done by state legislatures"
According to an amended constitution, redistricting could be eliminated or done by a drunk monkey with a Sharpie; THAT would be the new, AMENDED, constitution, and not "unconstitutional", by definition.

en.wikipedia.org/.../Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States

[Avicenna]

LOL, amending the Constitution to “ban gerrymandering” is absolutely not the same thing as amending it to change who draws federal HOR districts. If you want to do something as serious as amending some other country’s Constitution, you’d better be clear about what you want to do and you’d better understand that you can’t simply end redistricting. Do you know why redistricting occurs?

You’re a spoiled child, demanding that some other country, whose system you don’t even understand, should accommodate your crazy leftist demands.

[goaded]

@Avicenna It's exactly the same. I do wonder how far you'll go to try disguise the fact that you think a constitutional amendment could be unconstitutional. It's a bit sad, don't you think?

[Avicenna]

I know you’re dishonest, goaded, and trying to cover up your ignorance of the US system, but anyone with a brain and basic civics knowledge knows they are not the same thing. You constantly get caught lying and bullshitting, and this is no exception. Gerrymandering is a form of redistricting. Not all redistricting is gerrymandering.

And your proposed amendment has no chance of passing because both parties like to gerrymander.

[goaded]

@Avicenna Anyone can see you are being "dishonest", as well as "lying and bullshitting". "Such an amendment would be unconstitutional", you said. How can an amendment to the constitution be unconstitutional? Thinking that's possible is showing your ignorance.

I never said "all redistricting is gerrymandering", as you know, and anyone can see.

Republicans are the only party that has to gerrymander in order to win elections, which is why Trump wants them to.

[Avicenna]

Goaded, stop lying. You lie about everything, which shows no confidence in your positions. That may work in CCP circles, but not with me.

You specifically said in your first posts that Democrats should propose an amendment to ban gerrymandering. You just say stuff without knowing what you’re talking about, which is entirely your fault.

You’re awfully desperate to get Democrats in power. Must be a CCP thing (the CCP loves their US branch). Your beloved fellow Communists gerrymander in the states they control. You do know that, right, Goaded Xi?

[goaded]

@Avicenna Where did I lie, liar?

When I pointed out that you said "Such an amendment would be unconstitutional"? How can an amendment to the constitution be unconstitutional? Thinking that's possible is showing your ignorance.

Maybe here: "I never said "all redistricting is gerrymandering", as you know, and anyone can see."?

You're just flinging out stupid, lying, accusations, now.

The whole world would be better off with a non-fascist USA.

[Avicenna]

Nah, you can’t get out of it. You didn’t know what you were talking about and got caught in a lie trying to cover up your ignorance. You lie all the time so you try to cover up lies with more lies. I already pointed out ti you what you said- go back to your first post and read it. Then stop lying about it. In addition to being a lousy liar, you’re a lousy propagandist.

[goaded]

@Avicenna Still not able to actually point out a lie I've told, are you. That's because you're lying and it's all you've got.

You said "Such an amendment would be unconstitutional"? How can an amendment to the constitution be unconstitutional? Thinking that's possible is showing your ignorance.

I never said "all redistricting is gerrymandering", as you lied, and anyone can see for themselves.

[onedarkcloud]

No, that's the favorite Democrat ploy when they lose seats in elections

[noohair]

Both parties do this when they have power.