Is the President of the United States now a murderer?

[msc545]

https://hartmannreport.com/p/when-the-court-says-trump-is-above-7eb?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=1e0ylc&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

[abc3643]

One could say pretty much almost every President has been a murderer - or, more strictly speaking - involved in a conspiracy to murder whenever they order military forces into combat for offensive reasons... After all, that's a deliberate order to combat an enemy which usually involves killing the enemy.

For instance, when Obama ordered the strike against Bin Laden which resulted in his death and the death of others, he essentially is saying "Go and kill Bin Laden." If you or I said such a thing and had it successfully carried out, we'd be charged with murder or conspiracy to commit murder.

[andreasderjuengere]

Previous ''Presidents'' also had been murderers. But -each time- only because there were minions at hand who would join in.

Previously, that had been covered up a little 'better'.

The present U. S. (as an institution) not longer has honour, a conscience, or civility.

It appears to be a tradition of the ''White House'' to be brutal and selfish since a while already.

Trump only is the label and the symptom. His fellow murderers are walking freely and are celebrated as ''patriots''.

Bravo.

[purplepoppy]

Europe and the UK have a huge problem with migrants crossing over in boats. Many of these people are criminals. Much to the far rights annoyance the life guard service is sent out to rescue them.

So why don't we just bomb them at sea? Well it's because it's both murder and illegal under international law. You can't just claim your at war and blow up civilians.

Trump is testing the waters here, if he gets away with it he'll extend the same logic to other groups.

[dustybiker2]

Yes.

Also in starving children by burning food paid for and denying shipping to them, refusing to fully defend Ukraine, the people who died in illegal abductions and deportation raids.

[goaded]

Republicans are killing millions of children that would have survived if USAID had stayed in place, but that's just a statistic.

But, yes, Trump's extra-judicial murder of those people on "a small vessel that couldn’t possibly travel as far as America" is inexcusable.

[Staximus]

That article was written by some libtard who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Trump didn't give the order to fire on the boat, the commander of whatever military vessel did. The boat was told to stop and didn't. It wasn't full of "migrants". Anybody who knows anything about boats knows that there's only one reasons to have 4 outboard motors on the back of a boat like that. So you can outrun everything on the water because your boat is full of coke.

[msc545]

Trump gave the original order, which ws then relayed by high command to the boat Captain, who gave the order to fire. Had Trump not given the original order, the final order would never have been given.

You DO NOT know that the boat was tols to stop - you just imagine it was. You DO NOT know who was in the boat because you did not speak to them before they were all killed.

I have been boating and sailing since I was age 5, so I know a bit more than you do about boats:

A boat will not go any faster with more engines of relatively the same size. Small boats like this do not and cannot outrun warships.

Offshore boats often carry lots of gear, ice, fuel, and people. Four engines spread the workload, making it easier to maintain efficient cruising speeds without straining each motor.

More engines can improve fuel efficiency at cruising speeds, since they can run at lower RPMs compared to a smaller number of overworked engines.

[Staximus]

Dude I work on the water and see boats all day

[msc545]

Well, sure, you can probably now tell the difference between a sloop and a ketch, right?

[Staximus]

@loveslongnails are you fucking retarded? Where do you think those drugs are going?

[Staximus]

@loveslongnails you don't put 4 outboards on a shitty boat unless you're running drugs you fucking moron. Welcome to real life

[Staximus]

We're not talking about sailboats here pal

[msc545]

How do you know there were any drugs?

[DonaldDarko]

Wondered what this was about, so much commie TDS ramblings on here. You might want to check this out before making any conclusions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

[slatyb]

Yes. He's been a rapist and child molester for decades.

[DryGermanGuy]

"Congratulations, James, you've got your own little war."

- CIA DDO Robert Ritter, Clear and Present Danger

[JesseP1nk]

Oh no Trump is a murder? luckily Bush is not *cough* Iraq *cough* or Obama *cough* Libya *cough*

[msc545]

You are not wrong.

[blackeagle007]

Many things he does, he gets away with with. Idiot congress and courts let him do whatever. We got a dictatorship running things now

[Chazmatazz269]

You would benefit from furthering your education.

[blackeagle007]

@Chazmatazz269 don’t start

[ProbablyClueless]

Every president is a murderer

[DrPepper12]

Yes. A fraud rapist felon murderer

[beefcakebradybatson]

If not, he soon will be.

[Chazmatazz269]

Of course not.

[panera]

Who was on the boat?

[Chazmatazz269]

Terrorists

[panera]

Just like today

[msc545]

@Chazmatazz269 Nobody knows. They are all dead.

[panera]

Today they were arrested

[msc545]

They arrested people from a boat they blew up? I think not.

[panera]

They arrested them before blowing up the boat

[msc545]

bullshit.

[panera]

Were you there? They also got cocaine out of the boat

[msc545]

@Chazmatazz269 How do you know they were "terrorists" ?

[msc545]

@panera, how do you know what they got out of the boat they blew up? Were you there?

[msc545]

The only truth in all of this is that the US blew up a small boat containing a number of people; the US will admit to 11, but there may have been more or fewer. In any even all ofthose people were killed by a US warship from a distance away. The US says there were drugs on the boat, but since it was destroyed, it is impossible to tell. The US also said the occupants of the boat were terrorists, but since nobody knew them or talked to them, it is impossible to tell, since the people were destroyed along with their boat. The US says the boat was headed for the US to deliver drugs, but it was far from the US at the time it was destroyed, and was far too small to make it to the US. The four engines on the boat would have required far too much fuel to be carried to ever make it to the US without mid-ocean refueling, and there was no proof that had been arranged.

The US has made up stories about this incident to justify the murdr of the people on the boat at the direction of Donald Trump.

[panera]

They captured the second crew.

[panera]

There was a second bot the next day