Would the left like some advice?

[DonaldDarko]

Probably not but here it is. You shot Charly Kirk, a prominent right wing figure. Now you're scared and trying to say it was a right winger who shot him. I'd be scared too especially if I did psychotic dances and played horns and electric guitars while celebrating his death. At least after reality started setting in. Don't shoot these guys just because they inflame you, they're not as high value of a target as they might seem. Don't be like Robinson, be like Luigi just aim a little higher.

[Danzigdawson]

"We" shot Charlie Kirk. "You" did that:

• There were pipe bombs mailed to Biden and Obama
• People threatened to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6.
• Melissa Hortman and her husband were assassinated not three months ago; John Hoffman and his wife were also shot by the same nut (who FYI had a hit list with 48 names on it) but survived
• 21 serious plots or threats to assassinate Obama were foiled between 2008 and 2023.
• Pelosi's husband has had his skull fractured with a hammer by someone who wanted to kidnap her.
• Once again, at pretty much the same time when Charlie Kirk was shot, some radicalized white supremacist teenager shot and killed two other teenagers in a high school in Colorado.
• A plan to kidnap Gretchen Withmer to overthrow Michigan's state government was foiled in extremis back in 2020
• The Pennsylvania governor's residence was set on fire in what was later found to be an assassination attempt on Josh Shapiro.
• Some nazi dickhead killed a woman as he rammed his car into a crowd of counter protesters back in 2018 at the neo-nazi, neo-confederate, alt-right Charlottesville unite the right rally
• Stats shows that 133 people have been killed in right-wing terrorist attacks within the United States since 9/11. Most occuring after 2008, the year of Obama's election.
• The capitol was attacked on January 6 2021 by trump partisans to prevent Biden's victory from being certified over plain, blatant lies. 174 police officers injured. One died on the scene and 4 others committed suicide in the following months. $2.7 million dollars in damage were reported. All of those who were deservingly convicted were pardonned.
• And more... (Boogaloo murders, El Paso shooting, Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, etc.)

So my advice is to shut the fuck up and get off your high horse

[DonaldDarko]

You sound vaccinated. Most of this is bull shit. Some of it is real. Only shows the right pick better targets. At least in as much as all these shootings went right down the memory hole. Not one of them went viral like Charly Kirk, you need to up your game. You're making fools of yourselves.

[Danzigdawson]

You both sound uneducated and unvaccinated.

[msmissydc]

I want to try to translate fascist talk into normal talk
"You sound vaccinated" = You are educated.
"Most of this is bull shit" = I can't say you are actually false so I try to make a claim and hope no one asks for proof.
"Only shows the right pick better targets" = We are much more violent then you but we actually do hate crimes and not just get blamed for them
"At least in as much as all these shootings went right down the memory hall" = can't remember those, because I claimed they are false and the right only uses death to blame the left and does not actually cares for the dead people.
"Not one of them went viral like charly kirk you need to up your game" = I can't even remember the dead peoples names but we are better at propaganda than the left and we are good at fooling our own people.
"You`re making fools of yourselves" = I really want to use an actual insult but this has to do.

[Danzigdawson]

@msmissydc LOL Spot on! 👍 Plus, I think this particuliar moron deludes himself into believing that he's some sort of libertarian free-thinker; the novelty and independence of thought of which defies all categorization attempts (and god knows there are many who try, since he's on the radar of every philosophy and political science headhunter in the world). He's too original and unique to be far-right. That's why you could say that he's a snowflake, but right wingers can't be snowflakes. Therefore, he can only be a diarrhea flake.

[DonaldDarko]

@msmissydc You sound vaccinated means you're a sheep, triple boosted and living on borrowed time. You probably still wear a mask too.
Most of this is bull shit = you heard it on CNN
"Only shows the right pick better targets" = We've got better sense than to go viral and be universally condemned. Luigi was the best though admittedly.
"At least in as much as all these shootings went right down the memory hole" People forgot them and they got lost in the background noise. They didn't earn us as much condemnation.
"You`re making fools of yourselves" = you think men can turn into women or anywhere in between and you're willing to pull off assassinations that ruin you politically over it.

[Chazmatazz269]

They never want advice. The only remnant of their traditional platform is that they think they’re smarter and better than everyone else. Which is why they want to rule unopposed. They know what is best for everyone. So we should just sit down, shut up and leave everything to them.

[dustybiker2]

The guy was raised maga. It was his grandfathers gun. Stop spreading misinformation.

[DonaldDarko]

Had a troon boyfriend, wrote communist troon crap on the casings. Stop trying to weasel out of what your comrade did.

[dustybiker2]

I'm not dem. lol
And I don't entirely believe the convenient trans girlfriend/boyfriend story. News channels love to get hits.
I also heard updates on the casings.. it was something to do with the grandfather and nothing to do with the crime. I think those details still need clearing, it's early on and the case is run by Patel after all. •snort•

[DonaldDarko]

I run in their circles this guy isn't right wing, the extreme right, Nazis don't like Charly Kirk but they would never shoot him. He's saying too many things they agree with. Typically their victims are Muslims, Jews or various minority groups. Nearly all their shootings are spree type killings not single assassinations. Most of the left know this too or they wouldn't be celebrating.

[dustybiker2]

Most of the left is not celebrating.
And most of the left could not hollow out a dime at 200 yards...

[DonaldDarko]

It's good that most aren't celebrating and have some sanity. True most couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. But, some could one took a nick out of Trumps ear at quite a distance. If he hadn't turned his head when he did he would have ended up like Kirk. He came from a right wing home, he was probably raised up hunting. Then there is luck which is another factor. He might easily have missed.

[dustybiker2]

Someone needs to do something about mental illness and guns.

[DonaldDarko]

Definitely , open the asylums and start respecting the second amendment.

[Syntosi]

Eh, considering the right wing freakout that I have witnessed, including Trump being forced to contradict his earlier inflammatory rhetoric, id say that this has struck a nerve among the right wing. And no, I do not think that the shooter was right wing, not that I would care if he was.

From my point of view Charlie Kirk can rot in piss but I rather wait until a left wing person actually does something like this before "taking credit" as it were.

[DonaldDarko]

So given the chance would you have shot him?

[Syntosi]

Him? No. But I am a firm believer that violence is necessary when democracy fails and I could see myself taking it into my own hands if I felt it had gone too far.

[DonaldDarko]

So if there were a right wing figure who was very influential and coming to your town. Like maybe right near the commie block you live in. Say you feel it's "gone too far". How do you take him out? Rifle
Poison
Stab that Nazi
Other
?

[Syntosi]

Its not about them being a right wing figure or very influential. I believe in a concept of social contract. We, as members of a society come together under mutual trust in the system. This system is further broken down into sections such as government and law among others.

I believe that this system of society can only exist if the people involved share a common trust in the institutions such as the democratic process or law. If the trust is broken and a member of the society, for example me, believes that the law or the democratic process is corrupt beyond saving then not only do I think that justifies personal intervention but I also think that I have a moral responsibility to act to restore society into one I can trust.

As for how that would apply to Charlie Kirk? Considering his involvement and support of the January 6th coup attempt I personally consider him to be a traitor to USA and since the law has failed to enact justice in accordance to the legal standard that Americans agreed upon then I think that gives justification for taking the law into your own hands.

That said, I dont particularly care about Charlie Kirk so even though I consider him to be a traitor I also dont feel motivated enough to lift a finger regarding it. Likewise, while Trump is openly undermining the democratic process by for example gerrymandering I still have enough faith in the process that the next election will not be corrupt beyond saving.

As for what I would do if I considered the situation beyond hope and need of a civil war to defend and restore the nation? Well, as I said, I would consider it to be a war so pretty much anything would be on the table.

[DonaldDarko]

So you don't agree with Robinson because things hadn't reached a point where his kind of action was yet needed. I disagree with him because I think he picks lousy targets. Mangione had the right idea, he just needed to aim higher. I think he just had something against insurance companies or something. I do to but the guy he shot was low value. He probably sent a message though and that's a good thing.

[Syntosi]

While you did not understand my position fully I guess its not that important.

Also, if we want to talk about "sending a message" then compare the response that Charlie Kirks murder got compared to when Luigi shot that nameless CEO. Not only has the president of USA gone out and talked about the killing of Charlie Kirk extensively but it has also completely disrupted the right wings talking points.

I find it endlessly hilarious how they are now for example talking about banning "hate speech" and such where as they previously were the "free speech and fuck your feelings" crowd. The death of Charlie Kirk has been completely transformative if nothing else.

[DonaldDarko]

The thing is you've got to know who's pulling the strings. Why do you think Trump dons' t release the Epstein list? It isn't anyone in the US government that is causing your problem it's higher up the chain. Global banking families rule the world. The US and every other country is in debt to them. If you don' t pay, they'll finance your enemies to attack you. You can't make war without money. If you don't have an enemy, they'll stir things up until you do. world leaders know this and fall in line, they don't want to be attacked and they want that money. If you cause a civil war by inflaming the right they will sell arms to both sides. If you win then you're still going to be controlled by the banks and you'll get similar government to what you have now.

[Syntosi]

I am all for "eating the rich" but trying to murder them is not particularly effective. Historically, having a competent government and/or a government who is afraid of the people more than the rich has produced more consistent results.

[DonaldDarko]

So far as I know getting rid of the elites has never been tried. Mostly because people don't now their influence. What you're saying could work Andrew Jackson got rid of the banking influence for a time. The problem is all the politicians are cucked to the banks. At this point who would you even run?

[Syntosi]

Getting rid of the rich has been tried countless times. For example when Abrahamic religions tried to say they would all go to hell and that banking was illegal. When the French went around chopping peoples heads off with the guillotine, when the Russians destroyed the Tzar and his rich friends, etc..

The fight against rich people is reoccuring and often very bloody on both sides. It does not actually solve anything though. The corruption of the rich is more of a systemic problem and especially an issue for the capitalist system.

Essentially, capitalism will always lead towards this outcome and there is no permanent solution. Having a government that periodically slaps them down or continuously adjusts the economy so that they are kept in check is the only real way to suppress this on a longer timescale.

[DonaldDarko]

That's been tried too, the Soviet union didn't serve the people, there was no dictatorship of the proletariat. They ended up with a government that supposedly represented them that actually represented the elites. No one dared step out of line or they were killed. At the core of this is really the failings of human nature it's self. Selfish predatory and hierarchical. Transhumanism offers some hope, a new being without those failings. That is unless some government creates killing machines instead.

[IamRight]

No leftists don’t like advice, they want people to shut up and let them weasel their way out being held accountable. They hold the Right to a higher standard than they hood themself, so I say call out leftists when you can

[DonaldDarko]

If we gave them their own country, we'd probably be sending them to their deaths, they'd surly do something stupid enough to eliminate themselves.

[andreasderjuengere]

This Charlie Kirk isn't known in my area.

What's this about?

[DonaldDarko]

He was a right wing activist and a communist shot him.

[andreasderjuengere]

That means that now he not longer is a right winger?
The political rituals in the U. S. confuse me a little.

[DonaldDarko]

He died from being shot.

[exitseven]

The left is just doubling down in crazy.

[Tamera952]

No thanks. STFU already.

[Anonymous]

The good news is that Jimmy Kimmel got canned over this. 😂😂

[DrPepper12]

Have you considered sit down comedy?