If donald trump was president during 2001, would the world have an easier time accepting the fact that 9/11 was an inside job?

[Hardon-Collider]

yes

no

[Chazmatazz269]

The democrats would swear they have hard evidence of it immediately and forever. I’m a little shocked that they haven’t blamed him for that particular tragedy yet. They blame him for pretty much everything else. Ell oh ell!
Volcano erupts and wipes out a town in Iceland? Drumpf’s fault!
JFK assassination? Drumpf’s fault!
Titanic sinking? Drumpf’s fault!
I bet he could get the looney left swearing the Earth is flat and the moon landing was faked just by saying on camera that the Earth is round and the moon landing was real.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Anybody which common sense and that isn't interested in lying to themselves can see it was an inside job led by the U. S. government to find a reason to start a almost 20 year war on terror BS to make military corporations several billions of Dollars.

[Pohjolan]

How come?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Pohjolan: High structures that are built to resist fire just don't collapse do to fire especially within a hour.

It has never happened and some buildings have burn for several hours.

Besides, building 7 wasn't even hit with a plane and it collapsed too.

Watch this documentary with a open mind and come to your conclusion.

https://youtu.be/awaMO5L488g?si=qNaIdDwpluKUFnUw

[Pohjolan]

@hispanic-cool-guy
Firstly the WTC towers didn't just have a fire but were hit by 80+ tons vehicles at high speeds.
Secondly these were not buildings designed to survive a long and large fire.
The fire insulation was left purposefully suboptimal to reduce costs, construction time and to increase space.
They wouldn't have passed inspection in Europe due to the fire hazard.

Try again.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Pohjolan: OK.

[Hardon-Collider]

@Pohjolan multiple radio stations announced that the second plane went right through the building and exited out the other side, thanks to a failure of the helicopter who did live compositing staying still in one spot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRCDUlo798k

I shared various footage like this

--- With advanced ai models with disabled internet access (such as google ai studio for developers, there you can didable gemini pro from using google search). I wrote that i am doing a school's art project where a fighter jet collides with a watch tower. I asked it to grade realism - how convincing Is it, or does it look extremely fake.

All angles in all videos, ai graded me below 3/10. Said it all looks extremely fake. No explosions. No flames. No particles flying around. AI even recommended me to watch videos of a real airplane crash to get a clue of how it looks, extremely different from this.

Not to mention the core of the building still standing - if it was collapsing due to an impact slicing it in half, the steel core would also be cut in half. Especially when multiple sources announced that the plane poked out the other side.

[Pohjolan]

@hardon-collider
There is plenty of footage of the second plane impacting and the fire on the second tower plus victim testimonies.
Neither tower was designed to survive a this size of a fire combined with a kinetic impact exposing the metal structures.
Concrete would have withered the impact as would have metal structures covered by glass or stone wool but not that thin foam.

[Pohjolan]

@hispanic-cool-guy
To quote:
"Anybody which common sense and that isn't interested in lying to themselves can see it was an inside job led by the U. S. government"
Niw defend your claim and without lies debunked years ago.

[Hardon-Collider]

@Pohjolan you're a genius, ok? On every level, you are the smartest person ever. Keep it up!!!

Meanwhile the architects of this building are on record in the 1990s describing it as literally designed to withstand a full-speed aircraft collision.

Say it again. 9 months ago the helicopter hit by airplane made them both detonate instantly, without moving an inch from it's place.

But we are to believe that the plane sliced the building in half and exited out the other side unharmed until exploding a second later.

If you don't watch the video above, i will start removing your replies, from now on, ok? You are probably annoying @hispanic-cool-guy when you claim the debunked lie that what he says is a debunked lie which it is not.

[Pohjolan]

@hardon-collider
Firstly did they also define the size of the aircraft involved?
Secondly the buildings being designed to collapse in the event of a larger fire is not the kind of information the company would wish to advertise.
You know what a NDA is?
By silence a man you don't prove him wrong. Just that you are afraid of what he might say.
Did you even read what I pointed out to be a lie? If you spread lies on the Internet then you have to be prepared to be called out.

[Pohjolan]

@hardon-collider
You do realise that the "I don't want to see this" button only hides it for yourself?
So go ahead and do show us how you remove comments.

[Hardon-Collider]

@Pohjolan i first thought "cringe".

Now i think "mentally ill".

I have not removed a comment, yet. I was hoping my warning would serve to discourage you from posting low IQ nonsense.

You are saturated with talking points about things you don't know about, and refuse to learn anything. That's why i strongly discourage you from posting: do yourself a favor and first learn something.

Once you do that and prove yourself above wrong, you can move onto what scientific-american said about the followup "Arabic terrorism" of 911:

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[Hardon-Collider]

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But it was Sandia's next discovery that marked a critical turning point in the feds's probe of the mysterious mailings, which killed five people, injured 17 and prompted thousands more who were potentially exposed to the deadly spores to take potent antibiotics—in particular, Ciprofloxacin (known to irritate the gastrointestinal tract and cause joint swelling). Using highly sensitive transmission electron microscopy (TEM) and scanning transmission electron microscopy (STEM), the researchers came to a startling realization: The silicon had grown organically inside the Bacillus anthracis samples, nothing had been added to weaponize the spores. "The silicon was not on the outside of the spore," says Michael, who headed up Sandia's investigation, "but rather incorporated on the inside."

It was this key information that helped the FBI to rule out the likelihood that a terrorist organization was behind the anthrax mailings and prompted the agency to turn its attention to U. S. government labs as the possible source of the anthrax. This move eventually led the agency to conclude that Bruce Ivins, a scientist at the U. S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), a federal biodefense research laboratory at Fort Detrick, Md., who initially assisted with the investigation, was the culprit. Ivins, 62, two months ago committed suicide as prosecutors prepared to charge him in connection with the mailings.\>\>

It auto deleted when i first used the << as quotation marks.

[Pohjolan]

@hardon-collider
Dude we can see that you don't have a moderator or admin badge.
Go look up WTC fire insulation. That stuff is thin and has been breaking apart without a external force and in part they used drywall to cover load bearing structures.
For a example mineral wool insulates about 7 times better and lasts way longer in case of fire.
Most drywalls are only rated for a 30-60 minutes of fire and without getting hit by debris.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@hardon-collider: Some people aren't interested in the truth. It's ok. Leave him alone.

[Lliam]

Good question. I think Democrats would have been more willing to accept the fact that the attack was an inside job. But Republicans and MAGA would not.

I don't know why everybody doesn't understand that it was an inside job at this point.
I guess they are just incapable of facing such a horrible reality.

[FunkyMonkee]

That's quite possible but, if he WERE Pres. then, it probably never would've happened!! Bush and Cheney were in on it and, most likely, the architects!

[Hardon-Collider]

It's understandable that you conclude that the puppet president was the architect, when you have to find a scapegoat after turning a blind eye to the prime minister who said that it was "very good." Yes, Benjamin Netanyahu said that 911 was "very good. Well, not that good but it will generste a lot of sympathy and motivate americans to fight our war".

I'll just leave you this, with minimal hope that you'll put your biases aside. Summary: a bunch of israeli officials admitting to staging the false flag to justify war https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnvz2C5Y-3w

[FunkyMonkee]

It sure wasn't bin Laden! He was already dead in July.
Those supposed 18 hijackers were all still alive in other parts of the world when it happened! Some were real pilots that were still flying planes a good while AFTER it happened!
Daddy Bush was a big part of it so, baby Bush also knew and was involved!
The only biases I have are against stupid people!
In the meantime, Bush had been planning it since at least the early `60's! Look up, "Project Northwood"
While you're at it, look up the movie, "Loose Change". Also, "JFK to Sept. 11th: Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick". www.youtube.com/watch
Now, you don't have to hunt for it.

[Anonymous]

Why would anyone's opinion change? He basically celebrated 9/11 because two buildings that were taller than his were gone and it moved up the rankings.

[Hardon-Collider]

He literally did celebrate it, in a social media tweet, but whatever.

Question is because leftards want as much government control of everything as possible. Except for when it's Donald Trump doing the acting. That's the only exception where they admit that "government bad".

[BonzoInBitburg]

Trump's first term was ok until covid and then he looked like a deer in headlights. He's shown he can't handle a crisis.

[Chazmatazz269]

False. Drumpf tried to reduce flights from China based on breaking reports out of Asia and Europe. Democrats called him a racist and blocked what in hindsight was clearly the most appropriate response at the time; given how little information they had in a couple of months of very shadowy reports.
The outbreak actually blew up at the beginning of Biden’s term, in 2020. He had months of forewarning, clearer reporting and leading experts’ best advice and still fumbled it. He could have even backpedaled and shut the airports down right away, but it was more important to prove Drumpf wrong than to actually protect US citizens.
But don’t let the facts get in the way of your story. Why would you even attempt such a ridiculous post when everything about covid is well established and easily fact checked now? 😂😂😂

[BonzoInBitburg]

@Chazmatazz269 Your memory of 2020 is slipping. He was cruising to reelection in 2020 until the summer where he looked completely unprepared for a crisis. That's why he lost to a corpse.

[FunkyMonkee]

And, WHO got us the vaccine? TRUMP!!! So much for the deer in headlights!! Bary would've continued sucking dick and snorting coke, Joey would've shit his pants and mumbled incoherently, Hitlery would've cackled her head off because she was in on it, too and Skamala would've joined her and spewed spewed another huge load of verbal diarrhea!!

[BonzoInBitburg]

@FunkyMonkee Seriously? That was a global effort and the US was the last to the party because Trump kept downplaying it saying it will go away

www.theguardian.com/.../trump-coronavirus-science-denial-timeline-what-has-he-said

[FunkyMonkee]

Maybe in your world.

[mysteriousNicholas]

Potentially, after all, isn't politics as much a soap opera to observe on television as much as the nightly news is its own agenda machine? Shrug

[exitseven]

No, most likely the crashes never would have happened

[Pohjolan]

WTF? How on earth could the president have halted it with the intelligence they had?

[exitseven]

@Pohjolan those terrorists never would have been allowed in the country in thr first place

[Pohjolan]

@exitseven
Travel restrictions Trump set in place during his first terms first year wouldn't have prevented it AFTER 9/11 so its pretty clear he wouldn't have placed such restrictions prior to 9/11.
Mind you their nationalities were
Saudi Arabia: 15 hijackers
United Arab Emirates: 2 hijackers
Egypt: 1 hijacker
Lebanon: 1 hijacker
So they maybe would have required a replacement for the Lebanese guy.

[FunkyMonkee]

@Pohjolan BUSH was involved!! Without Bush in the big seat, it probably would've never happened! He wanted an excuse to invade Iran so, they made up this bullshit to get him his little war!!

[FunkyMonkee]

@Pohjolan Amazingly, most of those guys are still alive, some are plane pilots and some had no idea they were even involved in that incident.

[DrPepper12]

Yeah. The font of truth. Yeah.

[FunkyMonkee]

You bet!!
Like the Bushes, Clintons, Soetoro, Biden and Skamala and the rest of the dems were all such bastions of truth!!

[DrPepper12]

Trump lives lies laughs

[FunkyMonkee]

No, that's the lefties.

[Kelly6]

@hardon-collider can bleach fix building?

[noohair]

It was a Saudi job...

[FunkyMonkee]

It was a Bush/Cheney job.

[noohair]

@FunkyMonkee

[noohair]

@FunkyMonkee
Your opinion has no basis in facts.

en.wikipedia.org/.../Planning_of_the_September_11_attacks

[FunkyMonkee]

Oh! And Wikipedia does, right?

[noohair]

@FunkyMonkee You can bring a moron to water but you can't make them drink. Good luck bub...

[FunkyMonkee]

I'll remember that next time I think about taking you to water.