When it comes to terrible things like the woman killed in Minnesota, PEOPLE SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. Agree or disagree?

[Bricealan]

From my prospective, after watching the video many times (as a Trump Supporter and conservative) I can only conclude that the ICE agent had no reason to execute that woman. We have seen so much violence in the past months; it turns my stomach to see and hear it just continuing on and on.

I have never taken part in any protest, no matter the issue, as I would only become part of a 'mob' with no direction and possibly putting myself at risk of injury or death, as we have seen.

As a conservative and a Trumper, I SEE AN EXECUTION OF A WOMAN TRYING TO DO NOTHING MORE THAN GET AWAY.

If the woman was TRULY trying to run the officer over, when he shot her, her car would have hit the curb directly in front of her, but instead, the car was TURNED and continued on down the street for many yards before hitting other parked cars

Other conservative DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT. WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE, IS THE WOMAN DELIBERATELY TRYING TO RUN OVER THE AGENT, AND IF THAT WERE THE CASE, THE CAR WOULD HAVE CONTINUD STRAIGHT AHEAD, WITH THE AGENT BEING HIT AND LANDING BEYOND THE CURD AND ON THE PARKWAY.

I AM SICKENED BY THIS WHOLE NIGHTMARE, BUT THE WHOLE ANSWER IS TO NOT PUT YOURSELF IN DANGER BY SUPPORTING A CAUSE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE JUSTIFIED.

[lightbulb27]

Correct, people see what they want to see. I'm more independent than most, but voted Trump as well at least once. I agree with a lot of what he does nto all. This isn't about Trump. Biden was enforcing via ICE as well... it's the left creating chaos because of the extremity of it... actually enforcing, or maybe over enforcing given some have been here for so long... illegallly.

I see woman trying to get away after another tried to pry way into car. I can understand most anyone "freaking" trying to get away with a masked people getting into car and escape. But she knew they were ICE... she should have stopped and submitted, if she wasn't a bit of a nutty liberal. She was caught and ordered out. Still, that be scary. It's not like she stopped in middle of Rodney King or BLM post jury announcement and some people were going to beat and rape and murder her. She knew whom they were.

Why did they do that? Because she had been jacking with those guys for some time and they were aware. She and friends per pissing those guys off and they knew it... so they were already in bad viewpoints.

Also not the officer that wrongly got in front of her car, had been in another altercation some time before and dragged off and injured quite bad. There's video on that. He'd be jacked from that right? He's a human.

So in the heat of being pissed off and car coming at him, he pulls weapon and shoots. Personally, I think it's way excessive. But I've never been on ICE, I don't know how they have the patience they have. It is very stressful dealing with the public and you never know when someone is going to ram you or shoot you. They are touchy.

You never never screw with law enforcement like the left is promoting and like these women and so many others are doing and will do more of. That includes the police and my local "street takover gangs". Because errors will occur and people will die.

And then they end up blaming the cops/ice for putting them in that position.

It is the law and responsibility of the public to stop and obey the law officer.

That's where this gets screwy...

all I got to say on this matter... said enough.

[BonzoInBitburg]

I have family in law enforcement and they all said that when they saw the woman climb in her car to drive away, they would just let her go. Taking her to the station only to see her back on the street in 30 minutes isn't worth their time. The other question if the ice agent was actually hit by the woman, did she hit him or did he let her hit him. She wasn't going fast and he had plenty of time to get out of the way so calling it self defense is ridiculous. My politics lean conservative and I can't defend shooting unarmed women in the face.

[Bricealan]

@BonzoInBitburg Thanks for reaffirming my stand on this, and as an academy graduate, had I been him I would have just her drive away, not worth my effort or her life. It is sad, indeed, to have this called 'self-defense on behalf of the agent. Were I him, I would never be able to live with or forgive myself for killing an unarmed woman. '

[Anonymous]

“ As a conservative and a Trumper, I SEE AN EXECUTION OF A WOMAN TRYING TO DO NOTHING MORE THAN GET AWAY”


Get away? She should’ve just stayed home like a decent human being. Sounds like her stupid wife talked her into this Idiocracy.

[Anonymous]

I thought the agent was in the wrong at first. Until I saw the video that showed the car actually hitting him. That changed my mind. The wheel could have been jerked to the side when she was shot.

[Anonymous]

That was the problem. She was trying to get away, while being told to exit her vehicle, with a law enforcement officer in her path. It really isn't that hard to figure out who's at fault. Only one person broke the law that day and knew they were doing it.

[Bricealan]

Not grounds to shoot her. I learned that in the Academy, when deadly force is justified

[Dargil]

There was no value whatsoever. In debating these morons. their minds are locked and set. Save your digital ink for intelligent people.

[Opinion Owner]

When some defies a lawful order and puts your life in danger, that is absolutely grounds to shoot. This isn't the first time it's happened.

[Dargil]

And some moron asks why didn't he stop after one shot? As we both learned in the academy, You shoot until the threat is stopped.

[blackeagle007]

Not if someone is fleeing from you. No grounds to shoot someone who runs away the opposite direction of you

[Opinion Owner]

@blackeagle007 She hit him with her car. As in, knowingly drove it at him.

[blackeagle007]

That agent purposely put himself in the way. Trying to find justification to being trigger happy. That’s law enforcement in this country.

[Opinion Owner]

@blackeagle007 He was CLEARLY in front of the car BEFORE she "tried to get away." So, you can look at in one of two ways, either he wanted her to hit him with a two ton vehicle 🙄 OR she decided to drive away with a law enforcement officer in her path. Dare I ask you which scenario makes more sense to a normal thinking person?

[blackeagle007]

Dumbass. He out himself in front of her car to bath that lady into doing something idiot. You love cops especially bad ones who shoot unarmed people. You wanna have their babies. Cops like that do that crap to look how to start a conflict

[blackeagle007]

Bait the lady. Is Kristie noem your sister?

[Opinion Owner]

@blackeagle007 If what you're saying is true, which even Biden would know isn't, that justifies her hitting him? What pathetic fucking point are you attempting to make? Are you tampon Tim's retarded brother?

[blackeagle007]

She wasn’t trying to hit him. Law enforcement on purpose put themselves in that position, they look for trouble and a reason to use their firearm. Would you stand in front of a car head on while there’s a driver? I wouldn’t.

[Opinion Owner]

@blackeagle007 Did the car miraculously take off by itself? You already said he was in front of the car before it moved and hit him, correct? Then you say she didn't try to hit him? It doesn't matter if he was doing hand stands while smoking a cigarette in front of her fucking car! She made a bad decision!

[blackeagle007]

How about this…. Don’t stand in front of the car. You act as if law enforcement is perfect angels. They are not. I seen videos of an officer having his foot in the doorway. That’s looking for trouble there. Besides MAGA abused cops during Jan 6th and your leader pardoned those idiots that rioted. Your pardons people who support him. That kind of power needs to be taken away from Trump, he abused it

[Opinion Owner]

@blackeagle007 How about this, OBEY A LAWFUL ORDER AND DON'T RUN PEOPLE OVER WHEN THEY'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF YOUR VEHICLE. The cop broke absolutely no law by standing in front of her vehicle. She broke the law! I also like how you people always bring up Jan. 6, that's the one time a year you supposedly support law enforcement.

[blackeagle007]

You MAGAs are hypocrites, face it. You wan L. E to go after minorities but get upset when they go after idiots from maga. You still didn’t answer my question, would you in your right mind stand in front of a head on car that’s running? Only an imbecile looking for trouble does that shit. I got a dui once, so I deserve to be shot and killed correct? That’s the attitude of you, person deserves to die because they violated the law. Cop can be judge, jury excecutater.

[blackeagle007]

You loved it when Trump pardoned your fellow rioters for that day. Those are criminals there

[Opinion Owner]

@blackeagle007 I think Trump is an idiot! And yes, I stand in front of running cars on almost a daily basis. I cross in front of them at red lights, in parking lots, among other places. You do to. You got a DUI? Did you cooperate with the police? Did you try to run them over? Apparently, NO! It was her decision, he's not responsible for her actions.

[blackeagle007]

If I did anything to the police when I got the DUI, I would’ve had more charges. I walked away with probation. So you do the math. Did I say it was ok for the lady to block traffic or whatever it was she did? No. But I have a problem when deadly force is always being used

[Opinion Owner]

@blackeagle007 We do have an agreement? Are you admitting her blocking "traffic or whatever it was she did" wasn't okay? Not only wasn't it okay, it was a felony! It was an arrestable offense.

[Redstang88]

Entirely avoidable situation either way. I’m not an expert in use of force practices there, I can certainly see people thinking it’s excessive and I can certainly see resorting to lethal force in his shoes. At that range with a hostile and clearly unstable protester trying to flee arrest directly through you, you don’t have time to see which way the wheels are pointed.
I’ll leave judgement to people that know more than me but that situation was solely and entirely her fault and I feel no sympathy

[David318578]

The thing that you are basing your argument on is irrelevant, its like if someone was firing warning shots at an officer and got shot. And saying the guy wasn't trying to shoot the officer so why did they shoot him?

That ICE agent is not a mind reader, she hit him with her car trying to flee being arrested, how is that officer supposed to know she turned the wheel and was just pushing him out of the way vs trying to run him over? He doesn't..

If she followed the law, she would be alive today.

[unending]

Plenty of people realize that a life lost so trivially is stupid. It's sad that someone would suicide like that. Sane people realize that left wing ideology drove her to do stupid things, and see the ideology as evil and a threat to humanity. Sane people realize the officer was justified in defending himself against a homicide left wing domestic terrorist that played to much grand theft auto. Left wing people however seem to miss the point entirely and just want more blood and resort to riots when they were the one that started the fight and tried to murder the officer to begin with. The only thing the left wing socialist understands is violence. Like National Socialist (Nazis) in WWII they will have to be conquered and lose most of their population before they realize their ideology is wrong.

[unending]

That's how it is with collectivists (socialists). They need their collective to be depleted to escape the echo chamber. Until then they will not understand that they are wrong for supporting murderous lesbian domestic terrorists.

[Fireguy17]

yeppers, no bias there at all.
So many keyboard lawyers, experts, warriors out there, I don't know why we even need to have a court system to find out the real truth.
Just post it on social media for them to figure it out.
Due process is no longer needed but isn't that kind of sort of a dictatorship which people seem to also be against.
Some people just love to argue, bots are also busy posting crap, along with foreign powers that like to see things in an uproar.

[KostasKouvalis]

I'm also a conservative and I agree with you. I don't care that he was dragged in the past and needed 38 stiches. If he has paranoia and PTSD, he shouldn't be out in the field

[Bricealan]

@KostasKouvalis Of course, you are correct, he should NOT be back in the field after an incident like that. Even after a JUSTIFIED shooting, an officer is not in the field for some time

[blackeagle007]

Yea well that that to Kristie Noem

[Anonymous]

It used to be people see what is right in front of their eyes, but now it's gotten to where they tell us what we're supposed to see even if we know that's not true.

We were defrauded into enduring an entire presidency like this, and when it was over they said, “oh gosh, I guess he is senile after all.” No apologies. No payment for everything we lost because of it. No one in prison. No accountability whatsoever.

[jshm2]

Lol, you can impotently scream all you like, they are relying on people like you to do nothing, while they take everything.

[Bricealan]

@jshm2 I have no idea what you are talking about. " ... relying on people like you to do nothing, while they take everything"? What the hell are you talking about, or do you even know?

[exitseven]

yes, today a new video surfaced that showed that the ICE agent ws indeed struck by the car. Protesters were interviewed by the mediua and none of then changed their minds even after seeing the video.

[Ariesman81]

MN law in a nutshell... do what you want cause we're not gonna enforce it anyway. This state is so fucking gay.

[Dargil]

Please. Don't believe your lying eyes!

[Pterodon]

Why didn’t she get out of the car as ordered?

[Bricealan]

@Pterodon That's not the question here.

[Pterodon]

That’s what I saw and heard first