Did you know that a Federal court shut down Trump DOJ demand for California voter rolls?

[msc545]

A federal court dismissed the Trump Justice Department’s lawsuit seeking access to California’s full voter registration database Thursday, warning that the government’s bid for the voter records “threatens the right to vote which is the cornerstone of American democracy.”

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/federal-court-shuts-down-trump-doj-bid-for-california-voter-rolls/?

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The Court said,

"The centralization of this information by the federal government would have a chilling effect on voter registration, which would inevitably lead to decreasing voter turnout as voters fear that their information is being used for some inappropriate or unlawful purpose,” the judge wrote. “This risk threatens the right to vote which is the cornerstone of American democracy.”

[Chazmatazz269]

That’s fair. Collecting information on expectably law abiding citizens is a slippery slope.
I sure hope you keep this energy the next time democrats demand universal firearms registration.

[msc545]

I will. I am not in favor of firearms registration at all. I think it's a violation of the Second Amendment of the Constitution.

[Chazmatazz269]

That’s a bit of a stretch of the second amendment in my opinion. But historically firearms registration has led to a number of further actions that would in fact violate the second amendment. Another slippery slope, if you will. Therefore i am generally opposed.

[Ariesman81]

Yeah... it's bullshit.

Blue states don't care who votes. If they did, they'd have Voter ID laws. And if they gave a shit about citizens voting, they'd require a social security number be attached to said ID.

Just more fraud protection.

[msc545]

We don't care who votes because every survey in the past and every analysis in the past has completely debunked the idea of voting fraud. It doesn't exist. It's just something that you people made up because you don't want minorities to vote.

[Ariesman81]

Hear that everyone? Fraud doesn't exist! 😂😂😂...😂😂😂😂😂😂...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[msc545]

@ariesman81 If you think fraud exists, how about providing some examples of it?

[Ariesman81]

In the state of MN, all a voter needs to register to vote is proof of RESIDENCY. Which means, anyone who isn't a CITIZEN could vote. Despite the law which states only citizens are allowed to vote. What do citizens have that non-citizens do not? SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS. It is also why using Real/Enhanced driver's licenses is not a validated form of citizenship, because obtaining a Real/Enhanced DL doesn't require proof of citizenship. I don't have to prove that a non-citizen voted, just that the current law allows it to happen.

[msc545]

You are missing the point. Your screams and yells about maybe he can do it. Doesn't mean he can do it. That is the potential illegal voter that I'm referring to. Obviously. He doesn't do it and history proves me out in that regard. There has never been a single case of voting fraud of any meaningful size or or duration in the United States. In other words, there's never been a case of voting fraud that had the potential to change the results of an election. It's not very easy to do it. Again, your insistence on this has more to do with your need to stop certain people from voting. Then it does anything else because you are afraid that those people might not vote for the party that you want them to.

Just because people can do something doesn't mean they're going to. And just because people are prohibited from doing something doesn't mean they're not going to do it.

[msc545]

Again, if you think voting fraud exists, how am I providing some examples of it occurring here in the United States? I'll wait.

[Ariesman81]

So your solution to the problem is ignore it and let it happen?

[msc545]

Where is your evidence that any voting fraud ever existed in the United States, and that it made a difference in election results? You can keep ranting, but you have no evidence, as far as I can tell.

[Ariesman81]

You're arguing in bad faith.

But for the sake of the argument, let's say you're right. And there is absolutely zero evidence that non-citizens voted. Which is a lie, but I refuse to do your due diligence for you.

Does MN's law of not requiring proof of citizenship, make it more or less likely that a non citizen will vote?

[msc545]

I keep dodging the issue, and I understand why. It is because you have no evidence. All you have is your racism.

[msc545]

Sorry, that should read "You keep dodging the issue."

[Ariesman81]

I have all the evidence I need. What MN law does not have, is enforcement. Because of Democrat cucks who think like women.

[msc545]

It's nice that you have the evidence, but apparently nobody else does. When you think one thing, and everybody else thinks something different, does that tell you something?

[Ariesman81]

Yeah... that you get your news from CNN, Blue Sky and your mother

[msc545]

You are now resorting to insults. Usually, people who have no real argument do this sort of thing. Is that what you are trying to tell me?

[Ariesman81]

I am resorting to insults because it is impossible to have a good faith discussion with someone who is not willing to do the work for themselves. You are choosing to stay blind. You of all people should know this.

[msc545]

You asserted it, you prove it. If you can't prove it, then I have to assume that you're simply providing some snippets of your own opinions, which is fine, but not probative.

[Ariesman81]

Nope. This shit requires faith. Something you don't have.

[msc545]

Yeah, listen, trust but verify. If you have faith in Trump, you must be out of your mind.

[msc545]

I have faith in God. Everyone else can pay cash.

[Amy10223]

Yes, I did. That should be across all states. Federal courts should just shut down his plans.

[slatyb]

I don't think he can get SCOTUS to overturn this.

[beefcakebradybatson]

HURRAH FOR THAT COURT FOR SHOWING SOME B**LS !!!

[DrPepper12]

Theil & musk deserve only the best data, amirite?

[exitseven]

The question should b "What do they have to hide?"

[msc545]

Now the question is, what does Donald Trump have to hide?

[Amy10223]

Yes!!!@msc545. And believe me, he has plenty to hide in those Epstein files.

[msc545]

@Amy10223 maybe in about a hundred years we'll find out.

[Amy10223]

Exactly. Or just enough time for them to take out some of Trump's name out the 2000 times it was listed in them.

[msc545]

@Amy10223 well, the thing is, the magic in this is such that no matter how many times they take out his name, it will magically keep reappearing in those papers over and over and over again. This means that they will never be able to get through with removing his name and thus will never release the files.