Is the mess happening in America today Trumps fault or Bidens?

[Anonymous]

[cherrytreeblossom]

the obvious answer is: trump

the less obvious answer is: still trump, but now in reference to 2017-2021

financially? trump, as he broke the record in printing money in his first term, then again in his second term after biden broke his old record.

in terms of online crime and on the streets? trump, bc he keeps on releasing hardened criminals if they pay him and because he released the Gestapo out onto the streets to shoot wildly at people

in terms of social unrest? trump, because he released the SS out onto the streets to shoot wildly at people to heat everything up even further and because he wants to start all the most unpopular wars in history, eg Canada, mexico, greenland/denmark

in terms of military power? trump, since he's the one obliterating all the long standing alliances

economically? trump, bc of literal trump tariffs and trade wars when america's trade was already suffering from being far more restrictive than other countries (eg. American ship, captain, crew etc for all voyages from us-port to us-port)

no more abortions for women who cannot afford a child? yup, trump

second amendment being trampled upon? trump will literally send his goons after you if you dare use your concealed carry licence and cap you in the back 10 times whilst lying on the pavement

what else is there that i didn't mention, yet? international respect? trump. trustworthiness of us military promises being kept and economy not to be played with by him and his family/friends? trump. oldest president ever recorded sworn in who has zero connection to today's youth? trump. potus who's being played the most like a fiddle? trump. president who is most well known for being a slimy, backstabbing snake? trump. potus who wants to invade his allies? trump. potus who doesn't support freedom fighters internationally but brutal dictatorships? trump. we could go on and on forever, probably. ugliest fkn chimp lookin ass of a clown? trump. biggest narcissist? trump. most insecure? trump. weakest? trump. most disgraceful? trump.

[Agape93]

Trumps. Biden just fucked the economy. Trump made it worse by tariffing everyone and pissing off our allies. Trump sent ICE in mass to fuck with people in areas they aren't wanted or needed. Trump is threatening war with our allies. Trump didn't make shit affordable again. Trump didn't lower our medication prices, he raised em. etc.

[Lliam]

It seems like both parties work together. We get cluster fucked by one party and when we vote for the other party that promises to fix the problems created by the first party, it cluster fucks us in different ways.

Hegelian dialectic:
Cause a problem
Wait for a reaction
Offer a solution that is what you intended all along.

Create fear over a fake pandemic
Wait for people to react with fear
Curtail civil rights and coerce people to get shots that are not only ineffective but extremely harmful. Those who created the narrative get incredibly wealthy.

Create an immigrant crisis by opening the borders and giving illegal immigrants free stuff
Wait for the outrage
Enforce new police state powers with unaccountable, federal, paramilitary squads

[BonzoInBitburg]

The biggest reason why illegals have been pouring over the border since the 1960s is because farmers and construction companies pay them cash. Farmers and owners of construction companies typically vote Republican and if they weren't paying illegals cash under the table for the last 60 years, there wouldn't be this big of a problem. This was created by every business owner that hired an illegal and every citizen who paid cash to an illegal off Craigslist or Marketplace to do some handyman work or do domestic work around their house.

[Dargil]

It is exclusively the fault of Democrats. Biden was a string puppet. There were people pulling those strings. Those people were at fault and they should be prosecuted.. Whatever you want to say about Trump, He is transparent and you know exactly what he is going to do because he says so.

[Asker]

Trump said there was no project 2025. He had no idea🙄

[Dargil]

And so?

[Dargil]

I think the main points of P2025 are excellent policy. Don't you? Heritage Foundation did a good job laying it out.

[Kaneki05]

Both to reality back to Obama and further. And make no mistake they want this or dumb or the logical conclusion both. They leave behind messes for each other and pretend to clean some up while improving life for what ever benefits the elites.

[Anonymous]

"Biden blaming" is as dumb as being a cult member. You all focus on bullshit distractions while multi-millionaires are raping the country blind. Do any of you idiots know how many countries or economies have survived a 125% debt to GDP ratio? Hint: that little round hole in your ass would be the correct number. The US now has obscene debt and the 2nd largest income disparity ratio in the world. And you keep voting for it. LOL

[FunkyMonkee]

ABSOLUTELY BIDEN'S FAULT!!! What'd Trump do to cause it, clean up the streets? Try to get rid of crime? Clean up Joey's mess? Make the country better?

[Anonymous]

Trump has been in charge for over a year. Attempting to blame Biden still is a pathetic excuse for a leader.

[sawno]

Mostly Trump at this point, enough time has past to where his choices will have a bigger effect. Biden did irreversible damage of course, but I'm not convinced that the tariffs helped at all.

[UniquelyBasic]

Everything that's wrong is Bidens fault and everything that is good is because of Trump, OBVIOUSLY 🥴

[888theGreat]

Both , but now Trump more. Trump owns this failing economy. People can't afford housing/rent, food, insurance, car, and they can't save any money , college. Must work 3 jobs to break even. People must work longer and can't retire. Lower pay.

[exitseven]

you must be working for the wrong place

[888theGreat]

@exitseven I live in reality. You don't look around apparently or watch the videos of people online.

[exitseven]

everyone I know is doing great. Im getting a nice tax cut and my 401k is the best its ever beeen,

[slatyb]

It's Trumps of course. He's the one who set ICE terrorizing cities.

[jazzy34]

Who’s the current president? Oh yeah. That’s what I thought. 🙄

[DryGermanGuy]

If it’s good news: Trump did that!
If it’s bad news: Biden’s fault!!!
Simples…

[exitseven]

Biden. If he did not let in 20 million illegal aliens none of this would be happening.

[Ariesman81]

It's technically the fault of the people who voted for Biden/Kamala. The same ones out there "legally observing".

[msc545]

Do you seriously need to ask this? This is Trump's fault. We are where we are today. Thanks to Trump.

[blackeagle007]

Trump 100%. Most Americans and around the planet will say the same

[Anonymous]

Neither, but the "autopen" really fucked things up.

[Twodogs0525]

Neither.

[Anonymous]

Biden

[Mike_Hum]

Biden’s.

[beefcakebradybatson]

T-R-U-M-P'S