Based on the current state of America why will Obama go down as the last great American President?

[Vegasrunner]

[SecretsofKB]

That’s a pessimistic question! Ideally we could pick up the pieces and return to a less divisive and hateful culture.

I have no clue what that will take but my guess is a strong leader that is well liked and respected on both sides of the isle will need to be elected.

If that ends up being the case, they would be the next great president.

But I really don’t have a good answer how to get there.

[Vegasrunner]

@SecretsofKB Thats not what I asked

[SecretsofKB]

@Vegasrunner Yep. And my answer implies that I don’t agree with you that he will be the last great president.

[Vegasrunner]

@SecretsofKB So you're saying currently he is the last great American President?

[SecretsofKB]

@Vegasrunner Currently. Yes, of the presidents we have had since Obama, he is the best. But hopefully he will not be the last.

[strawberryapple]

Barack Obama will be known as the best president in history because he won the Nobel Peace prize 3 minutes after his inauguration. Even he was confused. 😆

[Bricealan]

@Vegasrunner Obama, as the last great American President? You cannot be serious? Because of what?

[Vegasrunner]

@Bricealan Yeah its been a huge decline since him. You could mark the argument that it was Clinton but he had a ton of scandals.

[Hagar88]

Probably Trump. Only one tackling America's problems.

[NaultD]

More likely bush jr was the beginning of the downfall will be more noticeable.

[Vegasrunner]

@naultd That wasn't my question

[NaultD]

Obama wasn't that great. Also people don't care about good in a historical sense. It's the back sliding or first domino dropping setting off the chain of disaster people care about.

[Vegasrunner]

@naultd Obama was pretty great especially considering the country he inherited. In a historical sense people always care about who was best we literally have rankings that validate that.

[NaultD]

Ok. What is the country biggest problem obama inherited? The 2008 housing crisis right? We honestly never had any solid footing for everyday people since the internet was a thing. Dot Com bubble, 2008 housing crisis, covid19 crisis, now this AI bubble nothing is grounded in reality for a long time now.

[NaultD]

Also under Clinton our national budget was in the black short of social security that in of itself pays for itself.

Bush jr criticize this mentality and as an election promise to give a big tax return that he followed through. Then 9/11 happened. Trillions of dollars in dedt now. This former cia agent from Saudi Arabia attack us let's invade Iraq? Yet we are strong allies with Saudi Arabia.

See how the cognitive distortion of reality started here on an international level and slowly steeped into national level amd soon to be local level.

[Vegasrunner]

@naultd The housing crisis was one of many problems he inherited, but thats a huge one.

[Vegasrunner]

@naultd No I just see another creative way to say Democrats are always forced to repair the economy after Republicans fuck up. It'll probably be the same if Cheetoe ever leaves office.

[NaultD]

I'm a hardcore leftist by the way. To me Obama is not that different from mcconnell but more limp dick then that turtle looking fuck.

As a hardcore leftist ibsee the democratic party as a warm up clean up act for the larger capitalism class. It's fucking embarrassing to say the least.

The democratic party will fight tooth and nail anything actually leftist like Burnie Sanders but play submissive bitch for don like Obama.

Like the birth certificate conspiracy on a larger level.

[Vegasrunner]

@naultd That certainly is a position you are welcome to hold however you have no tangible evidence to support that opinion.

[NaultD]

Yet you ask for it in your own very own question here. We had al gore potential president that gave a fuck about global warming and potential to new heights of manufacturing industries at steep upfront cost but half the cost of our current deficit bills.

[Vegasrunner]

@naultd Unfortunately Al Gore didn't win and has no relevance to the original question.

[NaultD]

Yes I understand your question.

The reality is obama isn't going to be remembered and largest what ifs historically will be bush vs al gore.

https://youtu.be/r8N7BSsU5oo?si=kpNpHxcXdIFGULu1

If Simpsons redo this joke obama is going to be add to the line up.

[Vegasrunner]

@naultd He's already known as one of the most popular presidents ever. TBH only people who disagree are white rednecks

[NaultD]

First stepping stones for don. With obama birth certificate song and dance as an opening act.

I'm more and more humiliated spelling it out to you.

This disaster is beyond don. It's closer to regean than anything else.

[Vegasrunner]

@naultd I hope you getvthe help you need

[Anonymous]

He won't be. Anybody after Trump will be a thousand times better and probably get America back to where it needs to be.

[Vegasrunner]

@anonymous there's no guarantee that there will even be another president after Cheetoe.

[exitseven]

He will not. Trump will be known as the best president since WW2

[Vegasrunner]

@exitseven Cheetoe will and already has gone down as one of the biggest jokes in American Presidential history.

[888theGreat]

He will go down as worse. He will leave office via impeachment, National Debt will be $75 Trillion, worse economy since the Great Depression , the world will be at war, 20 Countries will have Nukes, Homeless rate will double, Crime will start to explode, Suicides will Triple. Gold will be $12,000 an ounce. Housing will crash, dollar may collapse. Christ might have to return.

[Vegasrunner]

@888theGreat Tjats under Cheetoe im asking about Obama

[Anonymous]

It’s a subjective question. Probably all US presidents have people who like and don’t like them.

[beefcakebradybatson]

And even he was good, not great;he seems like Lincoln, JFK or FDR compared to Agent Orange !!!

[CuriousMufuxka]

Why would Obama be considered a great president?

[Mike_Hum]

Obama is a piece of shit.

[Vegasrunner]

@Mike_Hum Why do you feel that way white man?

[Mike_Hum]

He’s a dumb fucking commie who ruined healthcare and race relations in this country.

[Vegasrunner]

@Mike_Hum Ruined health care? Proably saved more people's lives with the ACA than anyone in the history of the world. I have a friend huge conservative, hated the ACA ended up going to the hospital for an emergency procedure, almost died. Didn't even realize until almost 6 months later that he was only alive because of yhe ACA. As far as race relations you're obviously joking America is one of the mostvracist countries in the world it's always been that way.

[Mike_Hum]

Yeah, you clowns remember whining about the subsidies expiring? That’s because the program is unsustainable.

And you’re a complete clown if you think the US is the most racist country in the world. So racist we elected a minority twice and blacks need to make up hate crimes. You’re not a serious person.

[Vegasrunner]

@Mike_Hum Name a more racist country than the US. This is the same country where it was illegal in most states for a black man to have sex with a white women and those are like 1980 laws.

[Mike_Hum]

probably Germany where they murdered 6 million jews.

[Vegasrunner]

@Mike_Hum Thats like a fraction of the number of black people that were enslaved in America so no

[Mike_Hum]

BAHAHAHA There were 3 million slaves at its height in the US. I mean, sure there were a fuck ton more in the middle east and the Caribbean.

[Vegasrunner]

@Mike_Hum Um idiot that number is a reflection of the number of slaves held in the country at one time. Not the total number of slaves held or died during the process. This is why they say cheetoe voters are some of the most brainless people on earth.

[Mike_Hum]

Uh huh. does your genius analysis of slavery figure out how many were sent to Brazil? Or to the middle east?

[Vegasrunner]

@Mike_Hum Not relevant to the statement. Do you know what relevant means?

[Mike_Hum]

Well yeah it is. Your whole dipshit argument revolved around the number of slaves.

[Vegasrunner]

@Mike_Hum I think I understand your confusion thats your mischaracterization of the argument.

[Mike_Hum]

No, that's pretty spot on. You're equating the number of slaves to racism. The problem is your position requires you to ignore practically every bit of evidence about slavery that doesn't fit your narrative.

But that's typical of you somalians who whine about the US being racist.

[Vegasrunner]

@Mike_Hum Slavery would be the ultimate demonstration of racism.

[Mike_Hum]

So then the African warlords who sold the slaves - were they racist? The black men in America who owned slaves... they were racist too?

[Vegasrunner]

@Mike_Hum Obviously

[Mike_Hum]

so everyone is racist. If everyone's racist then no one is.

[888theGreat]

Reagan was last great Prresident

[Vegasrunner]

@888thegreat Only for rich white people. Reganomics impoverished and incarcerated a ton of brown and black people.

[onecuriousguy2454]

i think Bush was the greatest