If Trump puts Iran ‘out of business’ and makes Venezuela/US an oil hub, is that actually good?

[Caughtulookin]

[Master_Debator]

Let us think about it.

-Russia no longer has it's main supply for drones against Ukraine.

-China doesn't have time to fuck with Taiwan now because it has oil problems to worry about.

--Pretty much every terrorist Islam group that's been making a bad name for Islam in general is no longer funded.

-Cubain dictatorship is no longer propped up by oil. (will be fucked very soon)

My list could keep going... I'm over 40 years old and honestly... this is the best thing I've seen America do for the world thus far. If everything goes right... Iceland and Western Canada will be begging to be new states and the cartels in southern America are about to become past tense like the Itallian Mob in America. No more torture videos... Africa will still do it though... I mean they started slavery and still have it...

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[beefcakebradybatson]

Cuba was f**ked by Batista, Castro (s) and likely his successor, and China is too busy modernizing (with major repression) to mess with Taiwan.

[strateguy632]

@master_debator superb presentation! and cute username hint!

[jshm2]

LOL, Iran has been under sanctions for decades and still not been "put out of business". Trump is just fucking around, and isn't going to achieve shit.

He is just stealing Venezuelan oil money - which again will need to compensated when he is gone. The US itself produces mostly shitty shale oil, which isn't worth much.

All in all, Trump is taking the US down, not up.

[FreyaRed]

Venezuelan oil isn't highly profitable like oil from gulf states because it's "heavy oil". That's why oil corporation will always prioritize more profitable oil source. Another points is how far are those who buy that oil. Venezuelan oil is far from Asia and Europe. US have their own oil and Central and South America aren't industry power houses that will order million of barrels monthly

[Caughtulookin]

The people that have oil will continue to use their own oil but we won't have Iran killing their own people as others in order to capitalize on their commodity with human suffering.

[FreyaRed]

I guess you still believe in Santa Claus.

[Caughtulookin]

Im going to have to assume that you think that Iran are a bunch of angels? Just do a little research. Iran is a group of religous fantatics who seized power. They are the most evil in the world currently. They are equatable to Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Pole Pot, and even Jim Jones could be in that category. If the plan is successful oil and gas will be cheaper than its ever been.

[katiesmuff]

Anyone would be hard pressed to say it was a bad thing, however that is an almost impossible "if" to make happen. One big issue would be how many American lives would it cost to get this done and in my opinion one is to many unless that one is Trump himself.

[Caughtulookin]

Iran is helping to destroy themselves in defiance to the rest of the world.

[katiesmuff]

Your only kidding yourself thinking this thing isn't going to end up with troops on the ground and likely long past dumbo's term, leaving the mess for the next guy, much like he did with Afghanistan. Remember in 2020 when he set the date for our leaving , and right in the middle of Bidens term making Biden the scapegoat.

[Caughtulookin]

Do you remember when the lunatic we just killed tried to control The Straight of Hormuz before and the US Navy escorted ships through for a year under Reagan?

[katiesmuff]

Neither you or I can remember that as I was only born in 1983 and you around 1992. Next if I'm right this guy was not the one who was the problem back then.

[Caughtulookin]

The 20 year war of Afghanistsn was ended by Trump. The questionable action was after Trump left office and Biden immediately pulled everything out of our airforce base. The Taliban took over and bombed. Once again Trump is blamed for the Talibans actions and that of a man who has no problem with terrorists anywhere. Cartels and terrorists combined.

Yes the father of the current dictator because Iran actually has a president that has no control of the country. The father had run the country since he siezed conrol in 1979. Look up The Iran hostage crisis and the Shaw.

[Caughtulookin]

And just a reminder but we occupied and protected the people of Westernn Germany until about 1992 not just from the Nazis but also from Soviet communism.

[qwerty2469]

Very good. Iran and Venezuela were China and Russian allys. Now they work for us. We didn't just eliminate our enemies allys, we took them through amazing force. India and Israel are the next enemies we have to weaken

[Caughtulookin]

I've heard it said that production is at its end in China and that India is the future. The CEO of the entire Fed Ex company is Indian.

[strateguy632]

the goal is not to stop iran selling oil. but if it would happen it would be good. iran would have less money to fund terrorists hammas hezbollaah and more.

[Sal_Monella]

Most people don't fucking realize what war is. It's just words and feelings.

[Caughtulookin]

Hitler took over Italy before US and British forces drove the Germans out.

[Sal_Monella]

The Germans did not have to conquer italy. Italy sucked up to hitler.

[exitseven]

Yes-Having the majority of oil produced in the Americas will be more manageable.

[DryGermanGuy]

Neither of these scenarios will happen.

[Caughtulookin]

Its happening now. All of Irans neighbors are fighting Iran. Pakistan and France are sending warships to escort their oil out. All of the largest US oil companies are investing in Venezuela oil.

[DryGermanGuy]

I don't notice anyone actively fighting in Iran apart from the USA and Israel. Other countries have a defensive posture because of Iran's drone and missile attacks.
If companies are setting up operations in Venezuela, it doesn't mean that this oil will be exclusively for the US market. These companies will sell worldwide, as any oil company does.

[Caughtulookin]

Thats exactly the goal. If a seller is civilzed why go to Iran?

[DryGermanGuy]

Because they are neighboring countries and/or already have pipelines. I doubt that morals play a very large role in the commodities trade.

[Caughtulookin]

You should get in on American oil. It could make you rich. Cvx is the current recomendation. Thats Chevron. Its blowing up.

[Pterodon]

Of course. It secures our part of the hemisphere. You really want China and Russia that close to us?

[Dargil]

Yes, it is., just not for Russia and china.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Sure... FOR TRUMP'S SWINDLING A**!!!

[mrshooiser]

Yeah