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Wait... I thought Trump wanted out of NATO?

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  • Avicenna
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    Who said he "wanted out of NATO"? If he did, why would he have wanted NATO countries to spend more on defense (starting with what they promised to back in 2015 and most didn't even meet that).

    Truth is, the European members of NATO are plenty able to defend themselves and should with the US providing a backstop and intelligence information if needed.

    One other thing- a US withdrawal from NATO would require Congressional legislation signed by the President or 2/3 approval of the Senate.

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    • OddBeMe
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      4 mo

      Called google
      www.nytimes.com/.../nato-president-trump.html

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  • msc545
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    He did, but now he doesn't because he wants to bully NATO members into defending his crazy policies.

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    • 888theGreat
      888theGreat
      4 mo

      He needs a bailout

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    • msc545
      msc545
      4 mo

      @888theGreat well, we need to get a bailout.

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  • Anonymous
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    4 mo

    This is a bunch of countries protecting their own interests. That's it.

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  • alice55
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    So? He can ask help of the country who rely in oil from this région

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  • exitseven
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    Trump did not really want out of NATO. He wanted the NATO countries to pay their agreed upon 3% of their GDP towards it which they were not doing. They were all letting the US pick up the tab for everything and Trump was sick of seeing the US get ripped off. He was right of course and now they are actually paying 5% of their GDP. As a result NATO is a stronger organization. Trump also got out from under financing the war in Ukraine and now NATO is paying for it and purchasing the weapons from the US.

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    • OddBeMe
      OddBeMe
      4 mo

      www.nytimes.com/.../nato-president-trump.html

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    • Danzigdawson
      Danzigdawson
      4 mo

      Hey stupidseven. How much does it cost now to fill your great american-made trump, thanks to trump?

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    • Danzigdawson
      Danzigdawson
      4 mo

      *truck, of course... but I suspect you'd be stupid enough to pay to fill trump up too.

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    • exitseven
      exitseven
      4 mo

      @Danzigdawson it was 65 bucks the last time I filled up. I have the extra large 35 gallon tank.

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  • Cyfris
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    4 mo

    I thought he said he would leave nato if they didn't start coming good on their end of the bargain and hold up there end of the responsibilty in maintaining their military and fighting forces and not just hide behind the shield that is the American military complex. Could be wrong though lots has happened since then and I tend to adapt with the times and not dwell to much on the past.

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    • OddBeMe
      OddBeMe
      4 mo

      Thers is no bargain. We didn't want Europe to rearm after WW2 moron.

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    • Cyfris
      Cyfris
      4 mo

      What happened at the 2014 Wales summit? Was that not a bargain made by nato members to maintain 2%gdp spending on military personnel, equipment, operations, infrastructure, R&D, etc. Again I could be wrong it has been a minute. Turns out he didn't want out either I don't think from further research I have done and that he said he "won't defend them" if the "don't pay" calling it "common sense" with the big push for others to support Ukraine and not just America. Saved and made the US billions from what I can tell selling older munitions to nato to be given to Ukraine.

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  • Master_Debator
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    Xper 6 Age: 44 , mho 50%
    4 mo

    You're understanding of political things, is like me looking at a person in a wheelchair that can't feed himself and his shit goes directly into a bag from a tube... but he's trying to get on the basketball team and expects to be the star player that slam dunks all the time.

    Have you considered talking about colors... you do see colors right?

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    • OddBeMe
      OddBeMe
      4 mo

      Lots of weird color in trumps skin. He'd be the epitome of pluralism if he wasn't racist.

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    • Master_Debator
      Master_Debator
      4 mo

      Not a fan of the Cheeto dust foundation makeup? Personally I'd knock the comb over first... or the turkey neck.

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    • OddBeMe
      OddBeMe
      4 mo

      I think he's gonna knock himself over and we'll have idiot president JD versus Gavin Newsom
      https://youtube.com/shorts/cCCVtwYtqBQ

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  • RavVid
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    4 mo
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    I think he wanted Nato to spend an adequate amount on defense in reality. And to stop coasting on the US taxpayer.

    As an allied nation's citizen, I think it is fair dibs.

    With Iran, Australia has already sent over an E7 Wedgetail AWACS which is next gen compared US E3 Sentries being 30-40 years newer. It's mesa radar should help out. Whats odd to me is the UAE made the request not the US.

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  • AviatorTom
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    Trump has never wanted out of NATO. He wants NATO members to pay their fair share, and not rely on the United States. Almost 16% of NATO's annual budget is paid by the US.

    Typical of his usual negotiations, he has threatened to pull US out of NATO, to get other countries to contribute more.

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  • lightbulb27
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    4 mo
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    Yep, somehow, he just figured out that if we send our navy in there we will get a bunch of our people killed. that's bad politics, so he's suckering in other countries.

    "Ready... aim... shoot" is correct.

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  • genericname85
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    4 mo
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    Politicians tend to say whatever is most beneficial at any given moment. It doesn't matter what they said yesterday cause 90% of people have already forgotten that, so it literally doesn't matter. Welcome to politics. If you don't like it, the only way for you is to ignore it.

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  • 888theGreat
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    Trump sounded unballanced. He said he wants help, doesn't need any help , but they should help, why won;t they help? So , he is insane. Everyone halfway fair can see it. Not to mention he said he won war , yet is crying Iran is still using Missiles against US. You have not won until the other country lays down their arms. Is he totally retarded? Insane? Dementia?

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  • darkcloud1945
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    4 mo
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    He just asked NATO countries to provide ships to help, like they never do to protect their own interests. We will most likely be stuck doing it by ourselves, per usual. They will benefit from our action at no cost. NOT! They are fucking with the master deal maker TRUMP! Ok, Trump haters pile on. lmfao!

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  • Anonymous
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    4 mo

    The world hates him, and I mean frothing hatred. Nobody is going to help the U. S. as long as that orange pedophile buffoon is in charge. He's done nothing but piss on and threaten the rest of the world so he will get no help. Iran is his toy and he can play with it on his own. Fuck him and fuck Maga.

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  • MrChinaski
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    4 mo
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    Orange baby soiled his diaper by bombing a country he couldn't locate on a map. Now he wants someone to clean things up.

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    • 888theGreat
      888theGreat
      4 mo

      he attacked with no plan only hope. Hoped they would give up. Hoped the Iranian people with sticks and stones would overthrow Iranian Gov't. To Trump it is all one big game. Lets play war.

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  • permanentem
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    Xper 5 Age: 49
    4 mo

    Countries protecting their own economic interests isn't NATO. India were the first country to show up, but you probably think they are part of NATO. Typical dumb Democrat.

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    • OddBeMe
      OddBeMe
      4 mo

      I'm aware what the North Atlantic is. he's wanting euros to back his illegal war

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    • permanentem
      permanentem
      4 mo

      Nope. America and Israel are carrying out a plan together. America produces enough oil in our hemisphere that oil not moving through the Strait of Hormuz isn't a national security risk for us. It is however a threat for much of Asia and Europe, so it's in their interest to come to the middle to participate in the defense of shipping so that their own economies do not collapse.

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    • permanentem
      permanentem
      4 mo

      *middle east

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    • permanentem
      permanentem
      4 mo

      That's why India showed up. That's why China is expected to show up. That's why some European nations might show up.

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    • permanentem
      permanentem
      4 mo

      If they don't put in the work, it's their own necks. It's not going to collapse America.

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    • OddBeMe
      OddBeMe
      4 mo

      Nope.
      https://youtu.be/XVHROuzy8tA

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    • permanentem
      permanentem
      4 mo

      The USA consumes roughly 20.25 million barrels per day of crude oil. The USA alone has produced a monthly average of 13.3 million barrels per day in recent years, but the American hemisphere production is over 40 million barrels per day. So like I said, it's a fact that "oil not moving through the Strait of Hormuz isn't a national security risk for us". We do buy roughly 8-9% of our oil from the Middle East to maintain trade relationships with certain nations even though we don't need it, but our largest supplier in the region Saudi Arabia, Iraq, UAE, etc are able to bypass the Strait of Hormuz via pipelines to Yanbu in the Red Sea. In contrast China, India, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the United Kingdom need Middle Eastern oil to survive. Thus it is in their national security interest to defend shipping lanes when oil is threatened int he region.

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  • Spencer10
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    4 mo
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    Gee I guess the USA actually needs allies... too bad the USA has pissed every one off.

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  • ProbablyClueless
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    4 mo
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    No, he's actually always expressed a pretty strong preference to remain in NATO. He just wanted the other countries to, at a minimum, pay the amount they said they would.

    Asking people to live up to their word isn't unreasonable.

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  • Dargil
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    I don't see a connection other than supporting countries to preserve their national security.

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    • OddBeMe
      OddBeMe
      4 mo

      Putting a leash on Israel would be a better start.

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    • Dargil
      Dargil
      4 mo

      Why?

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  • Sevenpointfive
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    4 mo
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    israel is getting pommelled. israel will lose but we know how that one ends.

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  • goaded
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    So, mines, drones, missiles, etc. are not military capabilities?

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  • Filthy_Immigrant
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    4 mo

    another failed post from you. man your clickbating skills are out of this world

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  • Snakeyes7
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    4 mo
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    It's more like his supporters want out, not Trump himself.

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  • Anonymous
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    4 mo

    Time NATO pulled its wait

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