In some countries, corporal punishment at school is legal. Have you, or your kids faced corporal punishment at school though?

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Countries and regions in question:

[NathanDavis]

it's not legal down here... and it hasn't happened either, it would not be wise either

it wasn't legal either back then... when I was in elementary, there were still a couple of teachers who would throw pieces of chalk, or they said they would, I never saw it though

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Not legal in Mexico you're saying, I assume?

[NathanDavis]

not in Mexico... nor in Texas

we had a teacher singling out my niece and making fun of her, twice...

and that second time was the very last time, I made sure of that

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

This might be of interest to you then:
en.wikipedia.org/.../School_corporal_punishment_in_the_United_States

[NathanDavis]

yes, I am aware of that...

but that's just State law, see... the US can be quite funny about these things

you have State Law, you have Federal law, you even have local or district law, you have CONTRACT law, and you have "effective law" or when a court decided this or that and it becomes precedent

so, just because an archaic law says something is legal or illegal, that does not EXACTLY mean, you're immune to law or liable either

but more importantly... there's "true Texas justice"

[NathanDavis]

if you're wise... you think twice before you hit a kid... even yours

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Enlightening.
It's true that the federal system is completely alien to me, though we do have some local jurisdiction applicable here and there, for minor stuff

This picture OMG 😂
I know a kid or two who wouldn't believe this pic can be real, I know it can be. This is so maddening to see a kid near guns. But well, I'm doing my best to understand certain foreign cultures !

[NathanDavis]

definitely a cultural thing... as a Texan-American

big part of these cultures were defined by the fact that France, Spain, England (others) did try to invade/intervene over... 9 times? eleven? I don't remember the exact number but and this was AFTER independence wars, lmfao

in fact... there's a whole lot of cities, ports and town that have in their name like

"Four Times Heroic Port City of This or That"

and that's because that's how many time the French, Spaniard or British bamboozled the city with their cannons and stuff

and it was always the same... they would come over here with their cannons, horses and fancy uniforms, defeat the local armies, but... when it was time to actually occupy, that was a different story

every household had their own mini-militia and everyone was ready to, well... stand up for themselves

nowadays... you have Trump and ICE trying to do some of the same

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Those pesky Europeans again, as anachronistic as it sounds lol

I liked the story, thank you 🤌🏼

[NathanDavis]

well, after all... these regions over here are "200 years old"

and not 2000 years old as all of you guys over there...

so your concept of anachronism might be slightly different, lol

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Talking about schools, when you were at elementary school, what were the oldest historical events taught?

[NathanDavis]

I went to school in Mexico, so...

you pretty much learn the "history of all" through the 12 years of education

all of it...

had I been schooled in Texas, then it would vary... because every district, decides on what they include, approve, exclude, disapprove...

and because of that, my parents decided to school us on the Mexican side, so we could get a more proper education as such

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Yeah, any variation of school program within the same country is, again, alien to me lol

[NathanDavis]

now... I am the curious one, and so... if you did study in France

what, or how were you thought about French "intervention" on either Texas/Mexico/USA lands or affairs...

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I have no memories of being taught that, I believe this event could have been too specific to be part of the program. In fact, I don't remember that many lessons about the American continent as a whole.

Regarding American continent, we've learned about Columbus, conquistadors, then we probably jumped to slave trade, the civil war, gold conquest, industrial revolution... And... Then the 2 world wars, plus the cold war after that. I don't even remember studying anything about Latam or Canada.

But I disliked pretty much all History lessons except when we studied the ancient world, I was a fan of ancient Egypt during elementary school. Starting from middle school anything History bored me to death. Especially the 20th century, we spent like 2 years studying it for the high school final exam. Quite a traumatic experience lol

[WindAtMyBack]

It was completely normal when I was in school. Nobody even questioned it.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Do you remember when it started to look questionable?

[WindAtMyBack]

Not really. It became less common while I was still in school, but I assumed that was because they didn't do it to older kids.

To me, it was never questionable, and still isn't. I don't have a problem with it and think it's an appropriate form of punishment.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

That's an exotic point of view lol, to me at least, all right

[msc545]

Well, we all know that assaulting people is a very appropriate way of forcing them to do what you want.

[msc545]

It also teaches children a great lesson on how to get other children to do what they want.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I haven't but my grandpa told me a story about a time in his catholic school a "tough wise guy" got called to write an answer on the chalk board and he sort of exaggerated the motion in such a way as to convey disrespect. He showed me how he did it... It was definitely meant to communicate aggression.

And as soon as the kid sat down, he said that all he could see was the black of the priests cloak and he was on the floor because the guy moved so fast I guess he knocked some desks over and he smacked the kid and sent him to the office.

Personally, I'd like to see more of that. I think we'd have less "depression" if the world wasn't so bureaucratic and passion less.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Well, Kung fu priest certainly made for a good story, but I might have a different opinion about the morale of that story lolol

[DryGermanGuy]

This doesn't happen here anymore. My parents told me that in the 1950s teachers were still allowed to smack pupils on the fingers with a ruler or a stick. The most I've seen happening was a math teacher with a very short fuse smack a pupil over the head with his copybook. This was borderline in the early 1990s and he could have gotten into trouble for that, today no teacher would dare to go that far.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

That corroborates my experience in Antarctica, thank you Germany

[nolabels]

Sister Joan used to rap my knuckles or the top of my head with a ruler on occasion in 1st grade, back in 1964.

There was a paddle clearly visible hanging in the principal's office back in those days, too.
Although the paddle and I were never formally introduced, a few of my buddies were occasionally made familiar with its touch.

Cheers!

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

1964 didn't seem like a good year then, thank you for this testimony. USA I assume?

[nolabels]

Ah, nah, it was all good.
Lol.

Yeah, I'm in the U. S., not that I think that that has anything to do with the subject, really, though.
Stuff happens everywhere.

Even Antarctica.

Lol.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Well, I'm pretty sure Antarctica wasn't in the green on the 1964 version of this world map, so I won't draw unfair comparisons.

[nolabels]

Duly noted.

Lol.

[7Phoenix7]

I’ve never faced corporal punishment at school. But my parents say that it happened when they were in school. I couldn’t imagine going to school snd seeing a fellow student being spanked by the teacher. That’s weird..

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

though I don't think we're going to hear of spanking in such settings, but let's see if we get more testimonies for this question

[msc545]

Corporal punishment is psychologically and morally wrong.

In California, where I live, corporal punishment of a child is legally child abuse. People that do this can be arrested, charged, and imprisoned for abusing children. This includes school officials, teachers, parents, and everyone else.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I agree, unconditionally.

[katiesmuff]

I'm a girl and girls are all angels in school (ha ha lol) so we never had to be disciplined like those nasty boys who were always pulling our hair, pinching our little titties and trying to convince us to play doctor with them.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

What was this discipline in question, more precisely, if you remember?

[UrLoveMocha]

Me personally, no, but I have seen a fellow classmate that got in trouble and the teacher picked up his desk and slammed it down a few times. I guess he figured, I’ll scare you instead of hitting you.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

What was this fellow classmate's reaction, if you know and/or remember?

[UrLoveMocha]

The same as all of us, he was shocked and scared. He ended up walking out and never came back. Shortly after he was labeled as a “problematic person”.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I see, thank you

[Xawyx-2]

I was always behaving well in school, so I was never punished.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Does it imply that those behaving differently got punished?

[Xawyx-2]

Yes, some of them were, some professors were very strict in our primary school.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

What constituted this punishment in question, corporal type?

[Xawyx-2]

It's not in constitution... it's just a tradition in many schools in here... that's what they get for misbehaving.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Sorry, that's now what I meant, my question actually is: What was this punishment in question?

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

*that's not

[Xawyx-2]

Oh, the punishment was mostly getting slapped by the teacher, or they pulled their ears forcefully.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I see, so you've seen that in the 80s, which country was that?

[Xawyx-2]

It was ex Yugoslavia.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Thank you 👌🏼

[Xawyx-2]

You're welcome.

[beenherebefore]

I did not experience physical punishment at school. But when I was in primary school and pre-school in the 90s I remember seeing some kids being punished with slaps and spanking.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

In the 90s wow, where was that?

[Anonymous]

Just the boys, the teacher said it was the board of education

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

the board of education? Hmmm okay

[queenofcardio]

I've never experienced that

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

what about people around you?

[Unycorn]

My parents still kow this times.