Fox said we’re winning, and CNN said we’re losing. Which is it?

[strawberryapple]

I told you guys this was a brilliant bluff. Who’s got my five bucks?

I’m confused… Is bluffing really a war crime?

[RavVid]

Bluffing is an honored part of warfare and generals that have buffed well are lauded. So no prob with that. Wellington (Waterloo etc) was a well know bluffer and he sent Napoleon's Old Guard running with his final bluff. Those poor fellows thought they marching to a deserted hill top and then British stood up and let them have it.

I think you have to get away from the legacy media. A British Iranian is pretty up with it and gets info from Iran - runs YT Tousi TV. He has a dry sense of humor and makes news fun again.

Watch him instead of CNN propaganda.

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[strawberryapple]

I don't watch CNN. I watched the clips that Fox shows of CNN. But in the end, you just need to use common sense. Why would the commander-in-chief telegraph what he was gonna do the next day?

[RavVid]

For about the same reason he would disclose the diplomatic efforts and how he sucked the other side in, I would daresay.

People seem to expect it for some reason.

[strawberryapple]

All day long the left has accused and convicted Trump of war crimes. Now they have to eat crow because it never happened.

[RavVid]

It is much the same as chanting at a protest. It doesn't mean anything.

[strawberryapple]

And the people chanting don't even know why they're chanting.

[RavVid]

exactly.

[RavVid]

Thanks for a MHO.

Last night the news was the IRGC was splitting and fighting each other and more towns had kicked the IRGC out but the IRGC are still shooting protestors.

[FunkyMonkee]

WINNING, OF COURSE!! Don't you know by now that CNN LIES LIKE A FUCKING RUG?

[strawberryapple]

Yes, but their viewers haven’t figured it out yet.

[FunkyMonkee]

You don't have to tell ME that!! Several of my friends from decades ago have a very bad case of TDS!!!

[OlderAndWiser]

Who says it's a bluff? You don't know all the details of what Iran may have agreed to that have not yet been made public.

[strawberryapple]

I meant that Trump wasn’t planning to kill all of the Iranian citizens like the news said.

[Zack-Bann]

As long as you’re not looking outside your window to see DC and New York and Florida burning down under a shower of missiles, you’re not losing.


It’s that simple


The US have suffered 15 casualties so far


Iran has suffered 6000+ casualties according to some accounts
They self reported 2000


So even if we consider their own numbers it’s still 15 to 2000
You tell me who’s winning


It’s not exactly a close fight

[strawberryapple]

When CNN launched their “CNN Plus” idea, no one wanted to pay extra for it. I wonder why? I think that lasted about a week.

[Master_Debator]

I really wanted to bomb the shit out of Iran...2 more weeks...

On one hand they were going to cry "war crimes" (which I think is bullshit... war is war), and on the other hand they're going to claim TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out)... None of these fuckers read 'The Art of the Deal' and it shows.

If it was me in Trump's place... I would just bomb the shit out of Iran. Then ship all the Liberals there...

... then bomb it again.

[strawberryapple]

I’d vote for you. And I’ve read The Art of the Deal. Trump never telegraphs what he's really going to do. That's why I knew he wouldn't bomb the energy plants or the Bridges.

[Master_Debator]

Exactly!

[strawberryapple]

Great minds think alike.

[Master_Debator]

I just woke up and I'm watching a story about how CNN is having to retract statements and stories because they ran Iranian State Media as facts...

They basically ran Iran's propaghanda to control their own people, as propaghanda here just to be anti-Trump without any fact checking... they don't even use official sources from Iran or from the White House.

CNN has a track record of doing this kind of bullshit... But then again, anyone that takes CNN seriously after COVID, Hunter's laptop, or that Biden isn't mentally gone... tthey have a serious case of myopia. CNN literally is what the 'National Enquirer' was when I was a kid... to which my Great Grandmother proptly told me was just fake news when I wanted to buy that paper because it was running a story that Bill Clinton was talking to Aliens, with a picture of Bill talking to an 'alien grey' space alien. CNN beleivers need their own Great Grandparents to set them stright.

Anyways, I thought that was interesting and this was still up on my computer while the news of the morning is all the retractions CNN is having to make yet again...

[strawberryapple]

1. If those grocery store tabloid rags aren't real, should I forget about going on the chocolate donut diet?

2. Baghdad Bob and Tokyo Rose are no match for CNN when it comes to propaganda against America.

3. I wonder how much Trump will sue CNN for this time? They never learn.

I did hear this line from CNN: “Trump said Iran wants to make a deal, but Iran says it's not true.”

Good Lord! Traitors.

[exitseven]

I am not sure it is a win for Trump. He thinks he had played the Iranians and maybe he is but maybe he is getting played,

[strawberryapple]

How so?

[exitseven]

@strawberryapple He put them in charge of the strait. He also is letting them enrich uranium. What happens in 3 years if we have a feckless loser in the white House like Biden. The Irsnians will have a nuke built before Inauguration Day.

[strawberryapple]

You’re one of the smartest people on this site. Do you really think Trump hasn't thought of that?

[strawberryapple]

MSNBC is saying that Trump has plans to kill everyone in Iran. They want him removed from office for war crimes he never committed.
This would be a brilliant time to let Iran cheat and Break the cease-fire.

Then Trump can go in and finish them off.

[strawberryapple]

It's the old give them enough rope they'll hang themselves ploy. 🤣

[Pterodon]

Let them enrich uranium? You’re a liar

[exitseven]

@strawberryapple I support the President but st this point I really do nor know what to think.

[strawberryapple]

I think it’s all for show. Iran isn’t holding any cards. I can’t see Trump allowing Iran to collect a toll in the strait.

[AgentG111]

Listening to any ne s agency is a complete waste of time. They lie and change sides and storyline more then religious people are political people.

[strawberryapple]

You have to use some common sense.

[KostasKouvalis]

One of the rare times CNN is right. A ceasefire is practically surrender. The regime is still in place, so how is that winning?

[strawberryapple]

No one has won anything. I view this as Trump’s way to not fuck over the Republicans on the midterm. The left is crying about war crimes, so Trump gave Iran a cease-fire. If Iran breaks the deal, like they always do, who could fault Trump for continuing bombing them?

[KostasKouvalis]

Maybe. We'll see

[Jerre]

Never believe what CNN says, especially if it’s against Trump and/or the Republicans in general.

[strawberryapple]

For sure!

[Jerre]

@strawberryapple Thank you for the Like

[strateguy632]

Clearly both have an agenda. And the agenda is not to simply say what happened. CNN wanted republicans to look bad but facts are we successfully destroyed iran industry and air defense systems. That is objectively a win. A fact.

[Pterodon]

Fox is right. All cnn is, is a democrat led far left propaganda machine that truly hates America

[Sammy098]

If you are talking about the war in Iran then CNN is correct. Cause different world news channels from different countries are saying the same.

[strawberryapple]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Nice try!

[Sammy098]

What's funny?

[strawberryapple]

It's hilarious if you think I care what the BBC says. I posted a question yesterday saying that Trump would not bomb the power plants and the Bridges today. Was I right? Or do you need to consult the BBC?

[In_Trance]

Neither

[strawberryapple]

Deep