Do you remember when I said Trump could have saved 400,000 American lives?

[goaded]

Turns out I was right.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-covid-response-could-have-avoided-hundreds-thousands-deaths-research-2021-03-25/

[Danzigdawson]

Add another 300,000 (at the very least) for slashing USAID; tens of thousands for dismantling environmental regulations; the yet-to-be investigated and accounted deaths in ICE facilities; all of the mass shootings and murders that have occured because of his hateful rhetoric; the casualties of the Ukraine (because of his inaction and cuts), Iran and the Gaza strip (because of his complicity) wars; the imbecility of RFK and anti-vaxxer oriented health policies, etc.

It's probably safe to say, right now, that at least 1 million people died as a result of trump's actions, inaction, rhetoric, budget cuts and policies.

[goaded]

You missed murder on the high seas.

[msc545]

Trump is only interested in taking care of himself and possibly some members of his family. Other than that, not forgetting about him wanting to save any lives at all, it just isn't important to him.

[msc545]

Trump has absolutely no interest in saving anyone's life except his own, and if he did do it by accident, he would probably just consider it an unfortunate accident and a hassle and possibly costing too much.

[goaded]

Oh, hell yes.

[Just_Ken]

While there is no singular global tally, studies indicate that nearly 78% of people who were hospitalized or died from COVID-19 were overweight or obese. Furthermore, a report by the World Obesity Federation estimated that up to 90% of global COVID-19 deaths occurred in countries with high obesity rates.

Obesity severely compounded the lethality of the virus for several reasons:

Inflammation & Immunity: Excess body fat causes chronic, low-grade inflammation, which hampers the immune system's ability to respond to infections and causes the body to be more prone to dangerous blood-clotting.

Respiratory Burden: Extra weight restricts lung capacity and places mechanical pressure on the chest, making breathing difficulties (a hallmark of severe COVID-19) much harder to manage.

Hospitalization Rates: Patients with obesity were over 100% more likely to be hospitalized and 74% more likely to be admitted to intensive care compared to normal-weight individuals

[goaded]

Ooh, stalking month old questions, now?

Same answer: Links, or did you just ask AI to support your position?

The UK was shit during the pandemic, having a right-wing government that was nearly as incompetent as the US (Trump) government at the time. 409 (UK) to 434 (US) deaths per 100,000. Germany, which took it seriously, ended up with 354, France did even better with 244.

Canada was 225, Australia 163.

Wow. I thought Peru was badly hit, 660, but Russia reached over 1000!

ourworldindata.org/.../covid

[Just_Ken]

You know the UK Tory/Conservative party is more left wing than the US Democrat party?

The UK was very slow to close their boarders at the start of Covid. France, Germany, Britain, US in that order from least amount of obesity to most. Good point.

Russia though has low obesity figures does have huge rates of heart disease, aids, alcholism, cancers, respiratory problems etc. Covid was probably a blessing to them.

[goaded]

"You know the UK Tory/Conservative party is more left wing than the US Democrat party?"
Not entirely, and yet, still shit.

Keep trying to blame obesity and not lack of take-up of vaccines, it won't wash.

[Just_Ken]

Maybe but much more left wing than the Democrat party. Universal healthcare, welfare, disability, pension, minimum wage, high taxes. Theyve even had 4 female leaders, 2 jewish leaders, an indian hindu leader and now a black woman.

[Just_Ken]

Im not blaming obesity. Just quoting government statistics

[goaded]

Selectively quoting government statistics to support your bogus claims.

"Democrats support a progressive tax system, higher minimum wages, equal opportunity employment, Social Security, universal health care, public education, and subsidized housing."

The only chance they ever have to implement these things is when they've got 60 votes in the Senate, and then they only get what the most right-wing senator is willing to vote for.

The Tory's hate the NHS and welfare state, but they know they won't get away with killing it entirely.

[Just_Ken]

The Torys love the NHS like labour because its a great way of taxing people and then they redirect it to private companies.

[exitseven]

Just the people who did not OD on fentanyl and were not killed by illegal aliens would reach 400,000 before the end of his term

[goaded]

Ah, it's your crowd maths coming out again, isn't it? Not even close to true. Meanwhile Trump is murdering people who haven't even been caught smuggling, let alone indicted, tried and convicted.

[exitseven]

He has killed drug runners. Many democrsts are dumb enough to believe the tales that they are just out fishing for minnows.

[goaded]

They can kill them, but they can't catch them, find drugs, indict and convict them? Why not?

I bet you kept shouting "presumed innocent" about Trump all the time, but these powerless people? Kill! Kill! Kill!

[exitseven]

how do you go into international waters , chase down these little boats, capture the drug smugglers and task them back to America for trial? If enouh fo them get blown out of the water the ywil thin ktwice before trying it.

[goaded]

You mean the US isn't capable of going into international waters, chasing down these little boats, capturing the drug smugglers and taking them back to America for trial? Pathetic.

What you're saying is that the US is breaking the law. Murdering people. And you're fine with it.

[Shiprex]

Could have saved or just not killed?

[goaded]

Manslaughter, not homicide. He just doesn't give a damn who dies.

[Shiprex]

It's intentional homicide that leaders should automatically face in court when civilians are killed because of their decisions.

[AvacadoOnRye]

Wasn’t it scary when alternative meds were banned? The sheep were forced to make big pharma richer.
Such a scam.

[goaded]

Get banned again, did you?

[AvacadoOnRye]

From what? Remember when they said ivermectin was only for horses? 🤣

[goaded]

From here. Remember when they proved it was no use against Covid?

[AvacadoOnRye]

Remember when they said if you got the vaccine, you couldn’t get Covid? Remember when Andrew Cuomo, killed all those elderly people?

[goaded]

They didn't, and I do. I also understand that it happened in the first weeks of a new pandemic, when he was responsible for 10 million lives.

[AvacadoOnRye]

They didn’t what?

[goaded]

Say "if you got the vaccine, you couldn’t get Covid".

[AvacadoOnRye]

Seriously? Lol
Yes they did. But then they had to walk it back and say the vaccine will just lessen the severity.
Remember when Biden fired all those military people? Or did that not happen also?😆

[goaded]

Oh, my, the president made a mistake!
"THE FACTS: His remark accurately captures the strong protection the COVID-19 vaccines provide as cases spike among people who have resisted the shots. But it overlooks the rare exceptions.

As of July 12, the government had tallied 5,492 vaccinated people who tested positive for coronavirus and were hospitalized or died. That’s out of more than 159 million fully vaccinated Americans. The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, said “99.5% of all deaths from COVID-19 are in the unvaccinated.” "
apnews.com/.../joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211

Military members who refused the orders to be vaccinated were disciplined. Trump fired military people who refused to obey illegal orders. Which is worse?

And they're lying about vaccine safety.
www.reuters.com/.../

[AvacadoOnRye]

Are you angry that Trump made the vaccine possible?

[goaded]

Are you sad?

[AvacadoOnRye]

About what?

[Still-alive]

Lol that article should say ‘DUH!’

[goaded]

It took me a while to notice that this was written in 2021, my approach was just to compare death rates with Germany's (which also has right-wing areas of morons who were anti-mask).