What does Trump mean by "We've already won, but I want to win by a bigger margin" regarding the Iran war?

[Anonymous]

• https://wgme.com/news/nation-world/trump-says-us-won-the-iran-war-but-wants-to-win-by-bigger-margin-strait-of-hormuz-marco-rubio-nuclear-weapon

Trump is lying about winning the war.

Trump never had a real strategy or endgame.

Trump is delusional because of cognitive decline.

[jshm2]

Trump is a liar at heart, so you have to always take the opposite of what he is saying.

He's lost the war, but wants to continue to try and win.

Basically the same shit as Bush in Afghanistan.

Americans are simple minded clowns. They think if you 'killed a few people, and bombed a few places then, like in video games, you've "won" and can go onto the "next stage".

Real life doesn't work like that, and it's why America has lost every war it's ever fought, without allies to fix its fuckups.

[DryGermanGuy]

„The truth is, these aren’t very bright guys… and things got out of hand.“
- Mark Felt, All the President‘s Men

[DryGermanGuy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKLjmE169VI

[RavVid]

It is fairly obvious that Iran doesn't have much military force left to respond with. So US has clearly won in that sense.

Whether the regime is completely given up is doubtful - at least some of it is unwilling to throw in the towel. So not won in that sense.

Back in WW Eleven, a large part of the Japanese gov't & military did not want to surrender after the two atom bombs. Since it was very structured and disciplined only a few people needed to be convinced.

Iran is not structured so could take longer to capitulate and that might be what is meant by winning by a big margin. Aside from starving Iran out, he is also damaging Iran's grey zone armies. So that could be part of a bigger strategy.

Also he is damaging China and that could be a major strategy.

His statement is probably pretty accurate.

[Asker]

Bullshit! Both Russia and China are definitely benefiting from this! Trump is now backed into a corner! He's trying to find a way out to save face! I ran holds all of the cards right now! He has created an absolute disaster for the GOP! Gas prices are not going to magically come down anytime soon, and Trump knows it!

[RavVid]

If you have a predefined answer, why ask the question? Russia might gain some benefit but it is likely lower if Ukraine has continued success with refineries.

China's oil reserves are suffering because they can't flout UN sanctions on Iran oil any more. Iran was also important to China as a shipment route and that is in danger. I don't think you can reasonably say China is benefiting with any level of reality.

Your Congress gave your President the power to restrict exports of oil. He could it tomorrow and your prices would come down very quickly as you produce more oil than you consume.

[Asker]

Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I have a "predefined answer." I could easily accuse you of the same thing. Russia and China gain tremendous benefit. It's already starting to happen. China is benefiting by accelerating its transition from to renewable energy and reducing dependency on oil imports. We're getting left in the dust in the realm of energy alternatives (which Trump hates with a passion) because of devotion to the oil company gods who has Trump in their camp. That's why Trump won't restrict exports. It's not rocket science. Just follow the money. Russia is experiencing a major surge in oil sales... especially to India. Russian crude is very attractive now. This was a self-inflicted wound by Trump. I'm really frightened by his reckless leadership... giving Americans constantly changing excuses for why he caused this disaster.

[Anonymous]

War? Noo. That wasn't a war, remember? That needs approval from Congress. Pesky Constitution...

[beefcakebradybatson]

Who knows?