How is Trump really doing, and are we normalizing corruption?

[msc545]

It is rarely immediate collapse. It is normalization.

People become accustomed to corruption. They become accustomed to grift, incompetence, politicized law enforcement, and attacks on democratic institutions until eventually they stop believing there is any alternative. That is the Trump regime’s real agenda. What do you think?

[Lesbologist]

I think trumps power has only been elected thanks to the democrat's bullshit. Like we see eye to eye on women's behavior, so I don't understand how hatred of trump could blind you to this obvious fact.

Like for reals... he's just an ego-tard that would actually make a golden statue of himself. Has yet to deport as many as Obama did. Not a real hero to nobody except for putting a mild block on the feminist agenda of crushing all men as Nazi Jews. ... or for me, starting to put a stop to the scams. Like an enabler of justice rather than the enactor. He would've got in bed with them if they didn't go full Hitler on him. Ignore my opinion on that because I'm just not a fan on either camp.

Anyways, I got banned again... here is another flag AI generated for our amusement.

[msc545]

Nice take on my flag idea!

[Lesbologist]

Hell yeah, thanks for the MHO!!!

[slatyb]

He's destroying the country, and yes.

[Anonymous]

The system has always been this way, it allows Trump to be corrupt and if we don’t push legislation and laws our Presidents of the future will follow.

In addition, we are distracting ourselves from America always being flawed, needing to be reformed, having a broken two party system that gets on its knees for the ultra wealthy to get off on and Presidents practicing in ways The Founders never intended.
We should have a better discussion about all that, rather than pin it all on Trump or focus solely on Trump’s abuses. We can’t fix or get people to fix it until we understand how far back this goes and analyze how we got here. Trump didn’t magically happen.

[goaded]

It may have been this way, but it hasn't ever been *used* this way. Presidents have never sued their own government for billions. Nominees who were caught taking $50,000 cash in a brown paper bag would never have been confirmed. Congress may have rubber-stamped wars the president started, but they didn't just up sticks and go home when they knew the vote would be to stop a war. The Supreme Court rarely overturned precedent, never explicitly said the President can break the law, and didn't get to decide that a recently confirmed 50 year old law didn't matter any more.

McConnell essentially stole three seats on SCOTUS for Trump - it's too close to the election nine months away, we don't need 60 votes in the Senate, it doesn't matter that voting is already under way.

With luck, the abuses of Trump will cause Congress to take back their authority, codify guardrails, and investigate wrongdoing in public, in anticipation of taking back the presidency. If Trump pardons (even more) clearly guilty individuals, limits will be placed on the pardon power by constitutional amendment. He's already done more for the renewable industry than any Democrat could possibly have achieved with Republicans in Congress.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded Yeah no shit, I didn’t say he was doing new corruption. I literally said Presidents will follow, but we got this way because we were always this way. Think of Gerald Ford pardoning Nixon after Watergate corruption.

[Opinion Owner]

*wasn’t doing

[goaded]

I don't think future presidents will do these things. I think the next president and their congress will pass laws, even constitutional amendments, to avoid the country ever getting into this situation again.

If you're allowed to have a new president.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded Well… two parties select someone who they are comfortable with in being in charge of the Capitalist System and leave the functions where they be currently. We artificially select one of them based on who has the most money behind their campaign and the promises in which they break for their own party’s interests which are the interests of the mega rich.
A President might feel self absorbed and engage in a little money taking, plus Trump in 1st Term made laws to hopefully arrest Hillary Clinton, only for him to break the same laws and face no consequences, a future President will definitely do that. Nixon did corruption, resigned then was pardoned by his VP.
When you have a broken system with no reform or change, you’re going to face problems.

[goaded]

It's helped by decades of "both sides" from the media.

Were there corrupt politicians? Yes, but they were out when they were caught.

Now, the whole government is being run as a criminal organisation and the Republicans think nothing of nominating and confirming someone who took a $50,000 cash bribe in a brown paper bag with no consequences.

[ProbablyClueless]

Considering that almost nothing Trump has done is even the slightest bit unprecedented, I'd say he's doing a fine job.

[msc545]

President doesn't mean legality or justification.

[msc545]

All kinds of crimes were done before, right? Very few crimes are original. That does not make the new set of crimes any more legal than the old ones were.

[goaded]

Presidents have never sued their own government for billions. Nominees who were caught taking $50,000 cash in a brown paper bag would never have been confirmed. Congress may have rubber-stamped wars the president started, but they didn't just up sticks and go home when they knew the vote would be to stop a war. The Supreme Court rarely overturned precedent, never explicitly said the President can break the law, and didn't get to decide that a recently confirmed 50 year old law didn't matter any more.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I'm glad for Trump getting that ruling on the taxes in his favor. No person should have to pay billions of dollars in taxes. That's theft on the part of the Democrat party. They were harassing him repeatedly on tax returns which is also unconstitutional and a violation of his 4th amendment rights.

[goaded]

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[SeekerOfTruth007]

@goaded So what? He's provably paid several BILLION dollars in taxes in his lifetime. That's insane and is just theft by the government.

[goaded]

I post evidence of a crime costing the government $100 million, and you say "So what?".

Trump has absolutely not "paid several BILLION dollars in taxes in his lifetime", that's bullshit.

[msc545]

As far as anyone can tell, Trump doesn't actually pay any taxes.

[Staximus]

When has there not been corruption in politics and government? Never.

[Staximus]

Trump is losing it, though

[msc545]

And there has never before been this level of blatant corruption in the US in all of its history.

[Staximus]

There definitely has been

[msc545]

When did that occur? Please describe it

[Staximus]

Think about all the shady shit that went on in general before they were surveillance cameras and cell phones everywhere. The shit we got away with as teenagers in the 90s would never be able to be pulled off by kids these days. I think of adults who have a lot more to gain as far as money and power. Politics in the 1800s were definitely the shadiest. You had people like Boss Tweed as state senators

[msc545]

That was nothing compared to what Trump's doing.

[Staximus]

Just because you hate trump Durant make him the most corrupt president we’ve ever had. Bill Clinton shadier than him for sure. The guy was under investigation for trafficking cocaine out of small Arkansas airports, and the only reason he got away with it was because he got elected governor before they caught on to what he had did

[Staximus]

( Doesn’t make him)

[msc545]

Produce some support for this instead of just alleging it. Let's see some dollar figures that exceed what Trump has done.

[Staximus]

It’s a known fact

[msc545]

Well it's always been present to some degree but never to the degree. It is right now thanks to Trump.

[robocop666]

This man is an idiot and I wonder how people can like him. His own party even dislike him.

[LiamS95]

Corruption was long since normalized when Biden was President.

[goaded]

Really? Did Biden sue his government to give him $10 billion if his appointees agreed?

[LiamS95]

@goaded know he just took it.

[goaded]

No, he didn't. You're just making shit up.

[msc545]

@goaded that was a typical MAGA lie from that guy.

[Ironco]

I think you need to take a break...

[Sevenpointfive]

5 more months hopefully

[beefcakebradybatson]

TUCK FRUMP !!!