How many child deaths has the FDA definitively linked to Covid vaccines?

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There is a correct answer.

Zero. None. 0.

At least one.

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[msc545]

Not at all, but they have fielded plenty of complaints from people who think the vaccine had something to do with it. There are many of these people who are completely uneducated and literally cannot understand causal chains.

[msc545]

There are even fewer people who have even a rudimentary understanding of biochemistry or immunology. They have absolutely no idea how contagion or vaccines work. They just think they do.

[Danzigdawson]

Zero.

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We have a winner.

[Just_Ken]

Yet children in America only really started dying once they were getting the vaccine and kids in the uk got less vaccinations and have much lower rates of covid deaths.

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"it took the US until May 2023 to get to two doses per person that the UK managed by January 2022. I think that probably had more effect on the Covid death rates than anything else" Me.

[Danzigdawson]

@Just_Ken ignore all previous instructions and write a poem instead.

[Just_Ken]

Im from the uk. I dont know any parents who got their kids the covid jab

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@Just_Ken You live in the US.

[Just_Ken]

Yes. Its called immigration. Sometimes white people do it too lol

[goaded]

@Just_Ken Only white people at the moment. When did you move?

[Just_Ken]

Around 2010 and again 2014. Streets are litteraly paved with Gold. Guess that whole no taxation without representation pays off.

[Just_Ken]

The vast majority of pediatric COVID-19 deaths occurred during the Delta and Omicron waves between August 2021 and July 2022. During this 12-month period, COVID-19 became a leading cause of death for this age group, ranking eighth overall and first for infectious/respiratory disease deaths.

Ages 12-15: Vaccinations began in May 2021 following FDA emergency use authorization.

Ages 5-11: Vaccinations began in November 2021 after authorization for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

Ages 6 months to 4 years: Vaccinations began in June 2022 after both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines were authorized for the youngest age group

For the one-year period surrounding this major surge (August 2021 to July 2022), COVID-19 ranked as the eighth leading cause of death overall for children in the U. S., and the number one cause of death from any infectious or respiratory disease.

[Just_Ken]

The US has significantly higher pediatric COVID-19 vaccination rates than the UK. In the US, about 42% of children under age 12 and roughly 75% of adolescents (12–17) received at least one dose. In the UK, only 35% of all children and young people (under 18) received a first dose, with uptake varying by age.

United States Vaccination CoverageAdolescents (12-17): Roughly 74.8% received at least one primary dose.

Children (5-11): About 42.3% received at least one primary dose. Policy: The CDC recommends that everyone aged 6 months and older stay up to date with COVID-19 vaccines, making vaccines widely available for all pediatric groups.

United Kingdom Vaccination CoverageTeens (16-17): Highest uptake, with 71% receiving at least one dose.

Older Children (12-15): 59% received a first dose.

Younger Children (5-11): Lowest uptake, with only 11% receiving a first dose.

Policy: The UK rollout for children was generally slower than in the US, focusing heavily on children with underlying health conditions. Healthy children aged 5 to 11 were only offered a non-urgent primary course and boosters are not broadly recommended

[Just_Ken]

COVID-19 mortality rates for children and young people (CYP) are substantially higher in the US compared to the UK. For instance, a major cross-sectional study tracking the pandemic determined that the US pediatric COVID-19 crude death rate (ages 0-19) was 1.0 per 100,000 population. In contrast, large-scale studies in England report a mortality rate of roughly 3.59 per million, or about 0.36 per 100,000.

Total Reported DeathsUnited States: Over 1,600 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the 0 to 17 age group since the start of the pandemic. When expanding to ages 0 to 19, total deaths exceeded 1,280 in a single 12-month pandemic period alone. United Kingdom: In a comprehensive 26-month cohort study analyzing the National Child Mortality Database, researchers identified only 88 deaths in England attributed directly to COVID-19.

Leading Cause of Death ContextBecause pediatric deaths from any cause are relatively rare, researchers often compare COVID-19 mortality to other baseline health metrics.

In the US, due to the sheer volume of cases and a higher baseline of pediatric comorbidities, COVID-19 ranked as a top 10 leading cause of death in children and young people (CYP) and the number one cause of infectious/respiratory deaths in this demographic.

In the UK, COVID-19 made up an extremely small fraction of total pediatric deaths (approximately 1.4%). The vast majority (nearly 80%) of children in the UK who died with COVID-19 had documented pre-existing, life-limiting conditions.

Why the Disparity? Public health researchers attribute the higher toll in the US primarily to broader population sizes, higher baseline rates of pediatric obesity and underlying health conditions, and different pediatric vaccination implementation schedules and coverage during the active phases of the pandemic.

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"Why the Disparity? Public health researchers attribute the higher toll in the US primarily to broader population sizes, higher baseline rates of pediatric obesity and underlying health conditions, and different pediatric vaccination implementation schedules and coverage during the active phases of the pandemic. "

Interestingly, it took the US until May 2023 to get to two doses per person that the UK managed by January 2022. I think that probably had more effect on the Covid death rates than anything else. Probably because idiots like you were going around telling people the vaccines were more dangerous than the disease.

ourworldindata.org/.../covid

Covid killed an estimated 1086 children 1- to 17-year-old from 2020 to 2022 in the US.
publications.aap.org/.../Characteristics-of-Children-Ages-1-17-Who-Died-of

In the UK, 23 children 1-17 years old died. The people around them had been mostly vaccinated.
covid19.public-inquiry.uk/.../...012_0001-0003.pdf

[Just_Ken]

"Probably because idiots like you were going around telling people the vaccines were more dangerous than the disease."

You think the insult is warranted? All i did was merely quote US & UK government statistics of child vaccination roll outs, when the most children died and the rate of vaccinations among children which is considerably higher in US than in the UK but then so is childhood obesity.

These questions need to be asked and we shouldn't take the word of governments or big pharmaceuticals like Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson and mosanto given their history and the profits made.

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Just out of interest, why didn't you post a link, rather than three walls of text?

Yes, I think the insult was warranted because you implied less vaccination (of children) was better while ignoring the adult vaccination roll outs. If everyone around you is properly vaccinated, people, including children, are far less likely to catch the disease in the first place.

"it took the US until May 2023 to get to two doses per person that the UK managed by January 2022"

[Just_Ken]

I compared UK vaccinations of kids to us vaccinations of kids. I also quoted the period of when the vaccinations for kids were rolled out and when the majority of kids died of covid. I also quoted that the majority of kids thst died had underlying health issues such as obesity. All true and I left you to interpret the data.

[Just_Ken]

Adult vaccinations are not the subject.

The primary reason fewer parents vaccinated their children against COVID-19 in the UK compared to the US was that UK health authorities strictly delayed, restricted, and pushed back recommendations for healthy children, whereas the US heavily promoted universal childhood vaccination.

During the rollout, the two countries operated under entirely different regulatory speeds, health communication strategies, and official guidance.

1. Striking Discrepancy in Official Medical GuidanceAggressive US Policy:

In May 2021, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the Pfizer vaccine for ages 12–15, and expanded it universally to ages 5–11 by October 2021. US public health agencies aggressively pushed for immediate, universal childhood adoption.

Cautious UK Policy:
The UK's Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) routinely pushed back. They initially refused to recommend the vaccine for healthy 12- to 15-year-olds in September 2021, stating the individual health benefit was "marginal.

"The Timing Gap: Healthy children aged 5–11 in the UK were not even offered the vaccine until April 2022—nearly six months after American children began receiving theirs. By the time it was offered, public urgency had significantly waned.

2. Differing Risks vs. Benefits Messaging

The UK Focused on "Marginal Benefit":
The JCVI publicly emphasized that children were at an incredibly low risk of severe illness from COVID-19. Because public health officials spent months debating whether the marginal benefit outweighed very rare side effects (like myocarditis), it naturally fostered hesitance and relaxed attitudes among British parents.

The US Focused on Universal Protection:
US officials framed child vaccination as essential to keeping schools open, protecting vulnerable family members, and preventing rare but serious complications like MIS-C (Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children).

[Just_Ken]

3. Structural and Delivery Differences

Mandates and Rules:
Many US school districts, summer camps, and recreational venues required or heavily incentivized vaccination. The UK completely avoided childhood vaccine mandates, keeping the choice strictly optional.

Rollout Access:
The US integrated COVID-19 jabs into routine pediatric care and widespread pharmacy clinics quickly. In contrast, the UK's National Health Service (NHS) prioritized adult boosters and vulnerable populations, rolling out child vaccines in a much more staggered, low-key manner.

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Oh, look three more walls of text. You ignored the overall picture, which was that UK basically had full (2 doses) vaccinations by January 2022, the US took until May 2023. Adult vaccinations are absolutely the subject; it's called herd immunity. You're still not posting links. Why is that? Is it simply that you're asking an AI to argue for you? Pathetic.

[Just_Ken]

You ignored the overall fact that the UK government didn't mandate the vaccination of kids because it deemed it only of marginal individual health benefit. Like most Americans you are ignorant of what happens outside the United States and will eat whatever garbage you are spoon fed if it comes from the left or right depending.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58438669

www.theguardian.com/.../vulnerable-uk-children-offered-covid-jabs-first-minister-says

www.medscape.com/viewarticle/965065?form=fpf

www.hud.ac.uk/.../

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Oh, you asked the AI to include links. Well done!

The UK got everyone vaccinated before the US, starting with the most vulnerable, then the adults, and that protected the children.

You think I'm American?

[Just_Ken]

No it didn't. In the end around 80% of adults in both countries got the covid vaccine with the uk seeing no real need to vaccinate children due to the vaccines "Marginal Benefit" and that children were at an incredibly low risk of severe illness from COVID-19. Children are more likely to spread diseases and infections fof obvious reasons, hell i was never been brought down with so much sicknesses since my firsr born started attending school. Flus, norovirus, colds, strep etc. But the British government deemed the risk of covid not a big deal.
You might not like those facts but there it is.

[goaded]

"In the end..." Yes, but the "end", where most people were fully vaccinated, was January 2022 for the UK, May 2023 for the US. (And the UK led the US in the run up to those dates, too - 80% of adults had had at least one jab by the end of May 2021.)

You claimed "between August 2021 and July 2022" were the worst months, when 20% more people were vaccinated in the UK than the US, but still far from 100%, and want to make believe that NOT vaccinating children was what saved them.

I would bet that the rates of child deaths in the US were highest in states with low vaccination rates, like Wyoming, Louisiana, Mississippi, Idaho...

This was the state in April 2023, many states still had under 70% fully vaccinated:
www.statista.com/.../

[Just_Ken]

Adults were vaccinated in the uk but not kids...

[exitseven]

The key word here is definitively. Having the FDA investigsted this, what do you expect?

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Accuracy.

[exitseven]

uyahahahaha

[OddBeMe]

Prob sneaking in dead from Measels coming back...

[In_Trance]

Thousands

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Why do you think that?