Which military conflict has been the most destructive to the world overall?

[behnamhb1999]

Which conflict do you find more destructive?

US-Iran War

Russia-Nato/Ukraine War

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Please also tell why.

[Just_Ken]

WW2. As much as 80 million people died on all sides.

20 million in WW1, it could be argued that WW1 was more deadly because out of it came the spainish flu which killed 100 million people between 1918-20 & along with the Russian revolution 1917-21 which killed 12 million.

I would say the Russia-Ukraine war is more deadly than the US-Iran war but really you should be including Israel, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen in all that as that all really kicked off with the October 7 attacks in 2023.

[behnamhb1999]

As for WWII, we can even say, one reason it started lies in the Treaty of Versailles where Germany was literally humiliated, lost territories (with German-speaking populations), had to accept all responsibility for WWI, had to pay reparations, had to limit it's army and also it economy was crushed. So, that's that. WWI, the mother of all wars.

But claiming that everything started on October 7th in the Middle East, really contradicts your meticulous approach you had towards WWI!! Gen. Wesley Clark told in an interview in 2002 or 2003 (not sure), that in 2001 there was a complete plan to literally take over the Middle East. The Pentagon came up with a list of countries to be taken over and their governments toppled. The list included Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and Iran. All of these countries were attacked. So the plan was already there. It's not right to say everything started on October 7th. We can even go back further into history. We can't deny the turbulence that the establishment of the Zionist regime created in the Middle East and caused all the subsequent conflicts. We can't deny the genocides perpetrated by the Zionists, such as Sabra and Shatila, Deir Yassin, Qana Massacre and etc.

All these conflicts took place one after another, and now here we are, the war with Iran, which, God willing, will once and for all put an end to the Zionist regime.

[Just_Ken]

Well Afghanistan hosted Al Queda. The US military fought Alqueda in Afghanistan along with the Taliban starting in 2001. If you want to go back you could argue that the 9/11 attack and invasion of Afghanistan goes back to the 1991 gulf war where Osama Bin Laden objected to foreign US lead retaking of Kuwait.
The invasion of Iraq could be argued goes back to the 1991 invasion of kuwait.
Syria was a civil war that NATO interfered in as was Libya. Yemen is a proxy conflict between Saudi Arabia and iran about installing a friendly government or a Jihad government that will ally with iran and attack ships which theyve done. Somalia is a shit show thats been going on for 40 years.
If you want to go back then you could go back to the Iranians invading the old kingdom of Judah.
Point is this latest conflict with Gaza all goes back to October 7th when Iranian proxies Hamas butchered Israeli citizens and their other proxy Hezbollah in Lebanon got involved.

[KostasKouvalis]

US-Iran for sure.
Russia-Ukraine is at least contained and mainly impacted Europe

US-Iran on the otherhand, the war spread into places I never imagined would have war. It crippled the oil and gas market, and made almost the entire world hate us.

[behnamhb1999]

An even worse war with Iran is coming.. we gotta prepare ourselves. Both us, Iranians, and you Americans, and the whole world. 🤦

[_Jenny_]

@behnamhb1999 Iran 🇮🇷

[AviatorTom]

The Russian-Ukraine conflict is more destructive. Thousands of people have died in the conflict, yet it's unclear what motivation each side has to initiate and continue the conflict, one that neither side is likely to win.

Compare that to the conflict in Iran. Casualties have been low, and there is a clear understandable motivation... 1) Prevent Iran from having nuclear weapons, 2) Eliminate a terrorist regime that has killed thousands of its own people, as well as sponsoring terrorism across the world.

[goaded]

"it's unclear what motivation each side has to initiate and continue the conflict"
No, it's not. Russia initiated by invading, Ukraine is continuing in order to survive, like Britain in 1940.

[AviatorTom]

@goaded Yes, but what's the reason Russia invaded in the first place?

[goaded]

Wanting more land. Like Hitler did in 1939, Netanyahu in 2025.

Is your neighbour not wanting to be attacked by you reason to invade them? As Iran has proven, NATO is not an aggressive alliance, it's a defensive one.

[goaded]

Why would you call it the "Russia-Nato/Ukraine War"? Russia attacked Ukraine. NATO is not involved at all, except many of their members are affected by the illegal invasion and providing support to keep the war from their borders.

Both wars were started by assholes who over-estimated their military capabilities.

The invaders, Russia and the US, are the bad guys in this scenario.

[Zack-Bann]

If we consider what Israel is doing to its neighbors as part of the US Iran war then it’s definitely that one.
It’s not even close


But if we’re just talking about the few weeks of air raids compared to the years of ground warfare in Ukraine, it’s definitely the European war that’s most destructive.

[strateguy632]

i can only think of u. s. iran. trump is the worst war ever. but that is not truth.

from these 2 which of them is most destructive. ukraine is much more destructive. the most destructive to world was WORLD war 2!

[strateguy632]

wow iran export fell 90% from 36 million barrels month to 3million 1/12 gasp.
meanwhile thanks to trump venezuela is renewed and boosted oil exports! with new investments coming.

[behnamhb1999]

Iran's oil export has fallen 90 percent, and Trump is still literally begging Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz? 🫤 Since when the Strait was even an issue? Trump is trying to solve an issue which wasn't even there before the war started!!

[Lesbologist]

The two options given... joke post? ... or you just live in the here and now?

[behnamhb1999]

Why friend? What's wrong?

[Lesbologist]

Out of all the wars... those are the only choices. With the qualifier of "right now" or "currently" it makes sense as a question though.

[behnamhb1999]

Yes, I mean "currently". Not out of all the wars in the world. The most destructive was of course WW2.

[Lesbologist]

Now it makes sense, that's why I had to ask. As for your question... I don't know so I asked Venice AI and it says, "The Russia-Ukraine conflict has been significantly more destructive to the world overall, by virtually every measurable metric."

... And then it gave a shit ton of it's supporting evidence. I'm glancing over the evidence, and it checks out. I'll be voting for the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

[behnamhb1999]

Ok. Venice AI? What is it? I haven't heard of it.

[Lesbologist]

I think most of the people voting Iran-USA are probably politically motivated and I bet if I peruse the opinions given to you here... I'll bet I'll get a couple doses of TDS. Every and anything orange man does is the end of the world for them. lolz

[behnamhb1999]

So, you mean the Trump haters?

[Lesbologist]

Venice is like Grok or chat GPT but with less bias and isn't trying to collect data on you.

Yes, I mean the Trump haters... you know, the ones that ignore that over 50% of the population voted for deportations and that their hero Obunga deported more, because they just hate it now because the orange man is doing it... they didn't hate it before, but now they do.

[behnamhb1999]

Obunga and the Orange Man and all other presidents, were the same. All of the caused wars and destroyed the world.

[Lesbologist]

Maybe, but I'm still going to poke fun at those that allow CNN to dictate what they like and don't like. You're obviously not one of them.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Aw man, you didn't' include the second war of the Greeks and Persians!

[behnamhb1999]

Oh, tell me about it. What do you mean? When did it happen? And why do you think it was destructive?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

At the time, that was the biggest war in human history. It was like WW2, except with swords, pikes, bow and arrow, and "Greek Fire".

[behnamhb1999]

Oh, things are getting interesting. Give me a keyword so that I will search about it. So, WW2, was actually WW3?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Google "War of Greeks and Persians 490 BCE and 480 BCE"

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The greeks sank around 600 Persian ships in one of the two wars, I get them mixed up actually. But it was like the greatest fleet ever built, and the Greeks sank the entire fleet.

[behnamhb1999]

Oh, how was that a world war friend?

[Snakeyes7]

Iran war but I like it because it hurts the major scumbags of the world far more because Iran was such a major source of their oil.

[Godihateyou]

The US civil war. After the US won had Lincoln not been assassinated by Democrats all the blacks would have been shipped back to Africa

[Anonymous]

Both

[behnamhb1999]

Which one do you think is more destructive?

[In_Trance]

Neither.

[behnamhb1999]

Why do you think so? For example, hasn't the rising gas price been problematic because of the US-Iran War? Or for example, isn't the blockage of the Strait of Hormuz destructive to the economies because of the likely energy crisis?

[In_Trance]

I don't see anybody's economy crashing because the strait is blocked.
How about the fact that war keeps a lot of people employed?
Can you imagine what a disaster it would be to bring all deployed Soldiers home? There isn't enough jobs to support that kind of manpower.
How about the fact that American manufacturing only exists because of the US Army?

[behnamhb1999]

So, you like wars happening in the world?

[In_Trance]

Did you read what I wrote?
I didn't say I liked it or disliked it

[behnamhb1999]

Yes, I read it. In brief, you said "war is a good thing for economy". And I asked whether you like it or not?

[In_Trance]

It's essential for economic development.
Never said i liked or disliked

[behnamhb1999]

I know you didn't say that. I asked to know. Do you like war?