Do you think that the United States would be a better place if only white people were allowed to live here?

[Anonymous]

Yes, only white people should be able to live in the US.

No, anybody who is a citizen should be allowed to live here.

[Levin]

I feel that immigration poses different challenges in the US and European context.

In the European one, it seems we have let in a lot of people who do not intend to integrate and they disrespect our culture. They leech on benefits, they intend to Islamise the place, and of course, we have the whole grooming gangs scandal here. There is no doubt in my mind that women and children are less safe as a result of the mass immigration in the UK in the last 30 years. Therefore, government, and the people who elect it, have failed in their most basic moral duty and responsibility.

As far as I can tell, in the US, you don't have this problem, or at least to the same extent. So what is your rationality? Is it the criminality associated with certain ethnic groups, the higher representation associated with crimes? etc? Do you feel you are losing your identity? Is it the loss of a high trust society which we are also facing in Europe?

I suppose as always, you have to balance two existing necessities. Reasonable compassion towards people. But also a need to look at the cold hard facts and respond to problems in a firm and rational way. In short, the masculine and feminine principle.

The problem we have in Europe, is we have just responded with compassion, the feminine way. Well, compassion towards people who take advantage of that compassion without appreciation, is abuse. It's how a narcissist takes advantage of weak women with no boundaries and self esteem. The analogy is perfect, if I do say so myself.

[OneViewpoint]

No, think the USA would be a better place if insecure racist morons and Evangelical Christians were not allowed to live here.

[Asker]

Yes and no. It is very much a slippery slope when you start outlawing certain ways of thinking and certain religious beliefs. If you outlaw them for the people that you don't agree with, pretty soon those people are going to be outlawing your religious beliefs as well as your political beliefs.

[OneViewpoint]

OK, now take your argument and apply it to the fascists of the 1930's in Spain, Italy, and Germany. Good people stood by and did nothing. How'd that go for everyone?

You are applying the rules that used to exist in a sane society that used to exist to a situation that has changed dramatically for the worse. This is not the 1970's - 2000 where people could have a civil discourse over policy. On the Reich Wing we have a MAGA cult unwittingly doing the bidding of the 1% while the middle class is gutted and killed off and an Evangelical Christian death cult wanting to install a Theocracy to bring about the end of life on Earth so they can ascend to their mythical "Heaven".

You can't negotiate with crazy. You can't trust extremists.

[loveslongnails]

What exactly is the "yes" part?

[Anonymous]

I absolutely wish it WERE only white folks JUST to watch them segregate into a caste system and hate on each other for a hundred other reasons. It would be hilariously fitting. They'd hate each other due to ancestry, different "shades" of whiteness, eye color, hair color, height, accent, speech patterns, shape, RELIGIONS, laughing my ass off.

It would be so fucking funny because there would be no more different colors to hate, they'd have to find some other bullshit reason for their individual superiority over one another.

So yeah... let everyone else find a great place to live on Earth, and let all the whites remaining go at each other's throats. Pass the popcorn, please.

[Asker]

Yeah, especially the religious part. I can imagine that the Protestants and Catholics would be killing each other.

[Opinion Owner]

It wouldn't take much. Religion is the most readily accessible, along with ancestry. It would be a popcorn worthy event to watch from abroad. LMAO.

[Anonymous]

DC producer James Gunn made a good argument for it with Peacemaker S2 Earth X.

The best dimension ever. A well run country with zero poverty, crime, unemployment, single mothers, abortions, homeless, obesity or dirty streets. Its what America could be if run right.

[indissoluble]

Nope. There are plenty of die hard Americans that are not White. They may not be representative of their race in general, but I'm not going to throw away the baby with the bath water.

[Joshydavid25]

Well, ultimately no, but in a way... Yes.. If it were more homogeneous then there is a chance that cultural differences would be minimal, and therefore strife would be minimal also.. There wouldn't be too much worry about any racial tension.. But at the same time it's mainly culture, history the stark but free history of America.. Much of the reason is because Marxist say that America was up and coming fairly fast and wanted to infiltrate the country as fast as they could..

[Chazmatazz269]

Marginally, sure, but a hard line against crime is what we need. The skin color of the criminals is irrelevant to reasonable people. Only the looney left thinks we should let people of color rob, r*pe and murder with impunity.

[Pterodon]

No I don’t think so. Hell just think what music would be like without blacks in America. No blues, about 50% of rock would be gone then there’s gospel and don’t forget soul, jazz, R&B etc

[strateguy632]

if you like them but i noticed a pattern 'speak rap' insted of sing. if can't do familiar dance: hop the hip hop. and if can't carry the tune: improvise with jazz. it is a pattern.

[Pterodon]

Their influence on music is obviously beyond your scope

[Cidknee]

And sports!

[KostasKouvalis]

I think so. I'd miss the ethnic food and festivals, as well as the Buddhist temples, but I think that's a sacrifice I'd be willing to make for safety, comfort and civility

[Asker]

How does excluding people because of their skin color make things safer, more comfortable and civil?

[exitseven]

I do not beleive tht. I do believe that citizens and people who intend on becoming citizens should live here.

[Asker]

So I guess the South Africans that Trump let into the country are going to become citizens of the US? Are you kidding?

[exitseven]

They are following the law and if they continue to do so they should be citizens. They are all hard workers and not collecting welfare. When did one ever get drunk and drive an uninsured car into a family and kill them all?

[Asker]

I wasn't suggesting that there was anything wrong with any of them, and I think that they probably will be good citizens. I agree with you regarding this. Why is it that you think that people from Central or South America might not also be good citizens? They aren't necessarily criminals either. Yet if I understand you or people on your side of the fence correctly, you will vociferously object to them, and if they're not documented criminals, you suggest they're going to become criminals in some way. With all due respect, I think this goes to skin color again.

[Pterodon]

You have no idea what we think but you’re wrong. We really don’t care about skin color. Your side is always the ones mentioning color. We don’t. All we care about is if they’re legal. Law is something your side has proven time and again you’re against. by the way. My fiancée is black and I’m MAGA white. So what do you have to say to that?

[blackeagle007]

Trump plays favorites. Just how he pardoned those from proud boy’s and oath keepers. That power needs to be taken away from them. And no they are not political prisoners. Most delusional load of crap ever heard

[Asker]

@Pterodon well, it's just coincidence that the people you're deporting always have black or brown skin, and you never deport people that are white. You claim that people with black or brown skin commit all the crimes and white people don't. You're really wrong about that because the studies show that white citizens commit more crimes than black or brown ones do.

So yeah, keep claiming you're not racist and keep acting like you are. That is really not very convincing.

[Pterodon]

Did you ever consider there aren’t that many white illegal aliens key word being illegal?

[Asker]

@Pterodon oh, you mean the ones that didn't fill out that little form? They don't get in trouble for that.

[blackeagle007]

Pterodon is an imbicil. MAGA always has something up their asses, thinking they are better than everyone.

[strateguy632]

not exacyly but much less crime and less violent crime.

[slatyb]

No, it would be much poorer.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@slatyb I think you mean richer.

[Asker]

@FrodoSkywalker007 I didn't really have the impression that he meant that. Do you mean richer in terms of material possessions, in terms of culture, or in what sense were you applying the term "richer"?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I assumed wealth.

[Asker]

@FrodoSkywalker007 let's ask him. I'm not sure what he meant now.

[slatyb]

@FrodoSkywalker007 no, poorer. Immigrants or their offspring invent half of everything.

[Cidknee]

No, it would be a shitty place!

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Generally yes. Look Japan that is very homogeneous

[Asker]

Is that better? If it is, what makes it better?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Clashing cultures is rarely good. Look at the UK that suffered some 250,000 cases of sexualviolence

[Asker]

Well, you know, cultures don't always clash. In many cases, cultures blend together and produce something of value. The United States has 250 years of people from different cultures building a society that, in many cases, has worked really well. I admit now it does not work well at all, but in the past it has.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

And that shows you how fragile such a system can be. Is it worth the risk? Especially when certain cultures refuse to conform

[Asker]

I think that means when certain people won't do what you want them to do, correct?

I think thatPeople have to live their lives in the way they find most satisfying, as long as they don't put the rest of us at risk. I think it would be important to respect that, don't you?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Let's say a bunch of white people immigrated to Japan. That nation has very strict immigration laws, but let's pretend they opened up their borders. If those white people started taking over regions, enforcing their culture, attempted to change laws, ridiculed the Japanese... etc would that be acceptable? Should the Japanese stand by and just let or happen?

[Asker]

I don't think the Japanese would be forcibly sending them to other countries. I think instead the Japanese, knowing them as I do, would attempt to negotiate with those people and make peace with them. In other words, help them to assimilate into the main culture of Japan. Lots of people have immigrated to the United States from other countries and have wound up living with us very peacefully and in many cases very profitably to everyone's advantage. Imagine our culture without the Irish or the Italians and what it would be like to not have their input into our mainstream culture, which is very important to us.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Yes, but that assumes all cultures assimilate. Surely you know better? Let's also not ignore the fact, in the case of Irish, Italians, german.. etc many were forced to assimilate through heavy discrimination.

[Asker]

I don't know that assimilation should be the metric that we use. We also have cultures that have not fully assimilated, and they're okay with us too, for the most part. Think of places like China Town or Korea Town in many of our large cities. Here in Los Angeles, where I live, we have whole areas of the city where the Chinese and the Armenians live in peace with the rest of us. I also know where to get good Italian food or good Chinese food in the city without going all over the place. :)

[Asker]

Many of my friends and colleagues are Chinese, Armenians, Koreans, or people from other countries. We have lots of Iranians in my profession because they come from good medical schools in Iran. I highly value the diversity and unique knowledge that these people bring to my profession.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Of course, but then you run into the issue of allegiance. Just recently a Chinese American politician was caught being a plant for the CCP. We also have to recognize the clash of cultures (think white vs black, or white vs Asian etc). Think of all the racial issues that exist. Or even consider outside forces (like Arab state investments) that negatively influence our culture, or even clear forces that fight against it openly (like Islamic culture).

[Asker]

I think in the breach that incidents like this have a lot more to do with money than they do with allegiance. That said, such incidents are so infrequent that I don't think that they should operate as a reason to not let people immigrate. At least here in the United States, I don't think that anybody is willing to control investments even if they negatively influence things, because in the United States money is more important than anything else, and I think you probably know that.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I don't disagree. If they assimilate, great. If not, then it presents problems. Nations like Japan wisely avoid this.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I think the domination of Marxism shows the severe weakness of western society and how easy it is to infiltrate.

[Asker]

Let's talk about what we mean when we use the word assimilate. I'm not exactly sure what I mean when I use it, but what comes to mind immediately is intermarriage. Of course, with that, we would get the birth of multi-racial children. Those strike me as good things from a medical standpoint because the mixture of genetics like that actually strengthens the immune system.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I'm speaking of cultural assimilation. Adopting and following customs and ethics. This can mean language, politics, social standards.. etc.