As Americans, do you truly feel independent and free in the US?

[Anonymous]

[NaultD]

So there's "positive" freedoms where we CAN do things freely and usa is the gold standard fuck ya let's go make it work some way or another. That's unbelievably badass as fuck.

There's also "negative" freedoms. It's hard to describe but bear camp in this video embodys very well.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/gHfZ2972mr0

To live as hard and have as much fun as bear camp you do need to be responsible and help your neighbors partying or passing by. If we can grow this "negative" freedoms and respect it as much as we have positive freedom we would be the shining temple on the hill we promised to be and then some.

[msc545]

These people are paranoid and gun crazy.

[NaultD]

@msc545 fair enough for the first group.

I want to focus on the bear camp people. Live for Tuesday not doomsday group. They want to party hard and to do so they have to work twice as hard. That's the negative freedom of duty and diligence that come together into positive freedom.

[NaultD]

@msc545 let's also look at the first group for a bit. They have the positive freedom to live in a compound like that. That's pretty badass if they had true freedom to do so.

Problem is they feel forced into this life from lacking "negative" freedom. From the uncertainty of the government. Which these people are overly goofy the logic still stands a little bit.

[msc545]

Those people are obsessed with guns and they don't care about much of anything else. They are crazy.

[NaultD]

@msc545 when your only tool is a hammer all your problems become nails.

Is that a decent analogy to connect to these lunatics?

[msc545]

Yeah, I think it is. It's also sort of a shared delusion that things are much more dangerous than they really are, and that's not unusual. I've seen it in other people.

[msc545]

No, I do not feel independent or free.

We have ICE storm troopers in our streets. We have a corrupt Supreme Court and an exceedingly corrupt President who is now threatening to eliminate or rig elections if they don't go his way and who tried to reverse a legitimate election several years ago, when it didn't go his way, and decided to riot at our Capitol. Most recently, he just engaged and continues to engage in an illegal war that was not declared by our Congress, as it says to do in our Constitution, which he also ignores. He is a convicted rapist and criminal who has not been honestly punished because he became president instead.

The person would have to be in psychotic denial or incredibly stupid, or both, to feel independent or free in this country at this time.

[usernameobvious]

For all it's Constitution, surely those Americans everyday Americans must feel like, sure are a lot of rules on the daily they have to still abide by.

📜 Laws made by Congress, state and federal, laws made by Judges (court rulings) etc.

[usernameobvious]

Sounds not much different than a typical country with three branches of Government

[Just_Ken]

Yes. Im from Britain. So much freedom in the us compared to Britain.

[DirtyOldMan777]

less and less the more liberals get into power. but compared to other countries I've been to by far yes.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes. In fact America gives too much freedom.

Love it.

[Pterodon]

Definitely especially compared to the rest of the world

[Bricealan]

Why would I now feel free and independent?

[Bricealan]

That was supposed to read.."Why would I NOT feel free and independent"?

[Abbycado]

Nope.

[Levin]

What if you have money? Is that not what makes the difference?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Yepppp