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And you only see that with the guys here. The women are completely normal... if not oddly timid, because I don't even see complains very often.
We've got a poll in which 78% of responders said they wouldn't date a woman who'd be with ONE SINGLE BLACK GUY! at any point in their life.
Then there's the constant complaints about feminists... which I don't think is sexist in itself but really, feminists are just pretty neutral people, generally, so I find that odd.
Then there's that every single time someone makes a post about anything that women do that slightly makes things more difficult for guys, a bunch of guys assume women are doing this due to narcissism. A good example was a thread about how women often like guys that are in relationships more than single guys (which I think is true.) This could just be because women are annoyed by single guys hitting on them, and they're not trying to flirt, just have a platonic relationship with the guy. Yet a bunch of people automatically assumed it was because they want to steal people's boyfriends.
I had a responder to one of my threads state that lesbians hate men... which I find odd. I've known two lesbians, and I'm a strait guy, and both of them were very sweet, normal people.
This place is not as bad as a MGTOW or MRA group, and it's way better than many woman-hating incel groups, but it seems like it's still about the next step up.
I live in Missouri. I went to a conservative college. Most of my relatives are conservatives. This is not how conservatives talk... in person at least. I do think it might just be how online conservatives talk though.
So maybe it's like, the leftists with no lives go online to call everyone Nazis, and the male conservatives with no lives go online to be sexist. Maybe that's it.
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Sexist.
If you will notice... many appoint themselves as the moral police and put people in these "categories"... the "ists".
In this case, they have decreed they are good but all of these "sexISTS" are bad.
Probably anyone who dares to criticize anything about women must be sexist or misogynist.
Well, since almost ALL women are feminists, meaning they are on birth control, having sex with men they aren't married to, pass on marriage at 18 to instead go to college and sleep around and go to work and pass on being virtuous wives and moms, many get abortions, tattoos, piercings, are heavy drinkers visit clubs and bars regularly, are online sex workers, post endlessly on social media, post thirst traps, have 100s or 100s of men always in their DMs and expect gentlemen traditional courting from men as if they were virgin, classy ladies themselves... there is PLENTY to comment on with degenerate women of today.
You will notice most expect queen treatment and are entitled and expect men to pass 50 criteria to be in there presence but endlessly shame men if they have standards towards women. We should just accept women as they are and let them just do anything they want.
Tattoos, bar hopping, dressi g like a prostitute, guy friends... do not control them.
We are shamed when we have standards and reject women for their awful behavior. The men are controlling and insecure. Code... women are perfect as they are. Men step up your game and you get no standards.
10 million tic tok women out there posting endlessly what they really thi k and what they are really like.
I know what you mean but it also comes from both sides of the political aisle, though often more from the conservative side. I imagine they had their own personal bad experiences and misplace it on all women.
Feminism itself gets a bad wrap from these guys for sure. They think it's all about women getting more power than men when simply we just want to be treated as equals. I am one of the pretty vocal ones on here and have been blocked by quite a few people who were too weak to listen to a woman fight back against their misogynistic ramblings. All we can do is continue to speak up and drown out their voices like we did so long ago to even get voting rights.
Of course I am sure some guy will inevitably read this post, roll his eyes and become a keyboard warrior, but I am hoping not.
I agree that it comes from both sides of the political aisle. I'm, for example, subscribed to an ever-so-slightly conservative historian channel called Shadiversity who's never said anything sexist, racist, homophobic or encouraged any conspiracy theories and he gets called a Nazi and a bad father by people.
I've seen feminists I disagree with. I've also seen timid little feminists politely state a mild idea and be swarmed by a billion anti-feminists though.
You may have a point... People who can't talk to people across various groups IN PERSON, do so hidden online and spew venom. I'm pretty moderate and am here to offer moderate solutions, thoughts for people. Some are here to be angry because they can't do it in real life.
There are a few man haters too, just not as many. There is something about this site that draws in the outcasts thou…
I've noticed one, maybe. Someone said I hated women for pointing out that dating is more risky for women than men because of greater sex crime risk and that women are more vulnerable to STDs (which some professional-seeming websites say is true). I think they might have been trolling though.
So when you read a post on here that says "why do all men cheat?"
Do you agree with them? Are you trying to score some kind of goofy points? You think this is a dating site and you're going to get anywhere with this?
I've not seen that post. I've seen far more posts that are similar to what I'm talking about.
So if you did see the post I'm talking about how would you react?
I would complain about it, if I wanted to say anything.
You can complain about it all you want but it's always the pink anonymous people posting that crap.
Why do all guys cheat?
Why do all guys lie?
Why are all guys players?
You lost me with "feminists are just pretty neutral people". Sure, some are, but in my experience most are anything but neutral.
i find it interesting that people like you judge men's movements by the actions of the bad ones, but ignore the bad feminists when judging the movement.
I have not noticed it 🫶🗝️🔑 it’s a great place here
Feminists? Neutral?
Buddy, where have you been these past decades, especially this past month and a half where they have essentially devolved back to "women have no agency over their own actions while they are hormonal, including strangling her three kids to death and attempt suicide out a second story window afterwards"?
I dont believe that. I dont believe guys should put the pussy on a pedestal either.
Women are far from the saints guys are programmed to think they are (apart from my angelic wife). Women can be and often are as sexist as any man.
Meh. It seems less amplified here than other parts of the internet. It's okay for people to express opinions that you disagree with.
The turning of history.
They're not gonna fuck you for simping for them.
Damn! You took the words right out of my mouth. 😭😭😭
What the hell kind of odd mentality do you have if you believe someone is "simping" or trying to get sex by merely stating things that express concern about sexist?
Have you ever spoken to a woman before for some reason besides getting sex? Do you tip your waitress and assume she is going to screw you now?
white knighting won't get you anywhere, bro.
@shish_kebab You do realize that there can be motives to making non-offensive statements about women that don't involve attempts to get 'ur dick sucked, right? You did know that was possible, didn't you?
Have you ever said "hi" to anyone with a vagina before, while not thinking: "Okay... when will she fuck me?" Most people have motives besides that at times.
@Rorroto,
If you've read or you read in the future any of my replies to women, you will see I not only treat them like they're men, I treat them like they're a fat lumberjack. Who would flirt with a fat lumberjack? I don't mean any disrespect to fat people or lumberjacks it's just that you don't flirt with them. You might talk about the weather or bitch about your job or something like that, but you would never flirt with them.
I'm the same way in a singles bar. If a woman approaches me and asks me to buy her a drink I laugh in her face. Why should I buy a stranger a drink? What is she ever done for me? I'm sure if a fat lumberjack asked you to buy him a drink, you might want to punch him in the face. That's the way I treat women and it works every time. Women are like wild animals because they can smell fear. The minute you start sucking up to them they know you're a simp. Women don't leave the bar with sims, they leave the bar with the bad boy who didn't spend a penny on them. So I'm not really criticizing you I'm just giving you some advice.
There has been a total of zero "white-knighting."
This "white-knighting" you speak of is just having normal, mundane opinions.
Your thought process is odd.
@shish_kebab I think your paragraph here sounds basically reasonable. I'm happy for you that you seem to have success with flings. I don't have any interest in that, I don't think, but I'm glad you've had success with them.
I'm not complaining about most of the stuff in your paragraph. It's just... you seem to be about 99% focused on sex, and that's about 0% of my thought process. I am perfectly content to be a nerd, and if all the women love sleeping with you and think I'm unattractive, I don't really care that much.
I wish you the best of luck in using your genitalia as a sort of magic wand to make women happy. Have fun.
you're really telling on yourself here.
@Rorroto
I'm not a player and I never once mentioned sex on your thread. My intent was to let you know that no woman on the planet is better than you are so don't let them think they are.
If you're interested, I'll go back to my thread and tell you the story behind this site and how the founder came up with it. It's pretty interesting and clever. The founder used to have a YouTube video but it got taken down I think.
Tolga Tanriseven and his buddy came up with the idea for this site when they were having lunch in a bar. They were watching guys get shot down in flames by the gals, so they came up with the clever idea.
@shish_kebab If you're not talking about getting sex... I see no benefit to your advice.
I could understand a woman finding it sexually attractive to be the kind of guy you're talking about... but I'd rather just treat people normally because I'd find that more relaxing.
Why would I want to laugh in a woman's face for asking me to buy her a drink, for example? That can be fun to buy women drinks, because of the result, and she's probably not asking just to get the drink. She's probably interested in something more
Also, I'm pretty sure I've given no possible impression that I think women are better than me, but I'm glad you don't think women are better than you either.
There are simps out there - people who pay money to TikTok streamers and such. I am not one of them. I think I simply try to advocate, just, general intelligent behavior.
If they can see guys "get shot down in flames." I don't think those are the sorts of relationships I'd be interested in - bar hopping and such. I like intellectual competition and gaming and such - friendships and stuff. I don't get enough of that.
1. I don't care what you're looking for but just never flirt.
2. Regardless of what you're looking for you still have to approach women
3. Women find confident guys attractive in many ways, not just sexual ways.
4. Bar hopping is something you came up with on this, not me
5. Those guys getting shot down in the bar I was talking about may have been looking for a wife. Doesn't matter what you're looking for, getting shot down is getting shot down.
6. I didn't mean you need to literally laugh in a woman's face. Imagine that fat lumberjack came up and asked you to buy him a drink. What type of look would you give him? Probably a confused puzzled look. There might be a chuckle or two involved but that's up to you. The bottom line is you wouldn't buy him a drink so why buy a woman a drink?
7. You can have all the women friends you want but you still have to approach them in the beginning. The founder of this site figured out a way to do that without getting shot down in flames.
8. You said you gave no impression that women are better than you. But in the beginning you pretty much said all guys are bad. That means women are better than you.
9. You said it's fun to buy women drinks. Why don't you just walk up and hand them cash? Then they can buy the drink they want.
10. When I refused to buy that woman a drink, she got a bit defensive and bought me a drink. Then we had a nice chat because I considered us on equal ground. Then I insisted on buying her a drink. I told her fair is fair.
The night progressed, we hit it off and dated for a while. Had I bought her that drink in the beginning she would have labeled me a simp. I turned it around on her.
@shish_kebab #8 necessitates that you are weird. Nothing I've ever stated at any point on this website could possible lead anyone with a sensible thought process to believe I think "all guys are bad."
Therefore you're probably sexist. That's what I'm interested in finding out: in what ways you are sexist.
I think that lady liked you not because you didn't buy her a drink, but because you reacted to her with a calm and reasoned thought process. Another calm and reasoned thought process could have been just buying her a drink. You saved a few bucks, but I don't see that as that big of a difference.
"why are guys on this website often so sexist against women"
@shish_kebab he's a white knight - you can't reason with them.
"and you only see that with guys on here"
There you have it. You should have blasted both genders, but you didn't.
@shish_kebab You have taken my quote out of context. The full quote (keeping in mind the title) is the following:
Why are GUYS ON THIS WEBSITE OFTEN so sexist against women? And you only see that with the guys here.
So an accurate summary of what I said was that guys on THIS WEBSITE (not in general) are often sexist and we don't see similar behavior amongst women ON THIS WEBSITE.
With that in mind, what it looks like to me is that you think I hate men because I complained about sexism against women on a website on which there is more sexism against women than sexism against men.
I don't think you hate men, I just think you're trying to score points with women. I just think you're going about it the wrong way but if you disagree please continue.
As a matter of fact, if you like I will ask my own question on this topic to see if women agree with you or me. Would you want me to do that?
Let me know. I won't ask the question if you don't want me to but I hope you do because it would be fun. Besides maybe we can both learn something.
I complained about many men on this website (not in general, and not all men on this website) being sexist against women.
Apparently that is "simping."
So every single time someone complains about sexism on a website that is "simping" apparently, you wacky, zany, person.
So do you want me to ask the question or not?
@shish_kebab
#1. I'm not trying to score points with women.
#2. If I'm right... it doesn't matter whether or not I'm trying to score points with women. I'm therefore not sure why you've not just focused on whether I'm right or not instead.
#3. You couldn't know this, but favorite hobby is pissing people off. I've complained about women bullying men on a LGBTQ+ website. There, I'd say women tend to be the bigger problem. Here, I'd say men tend to be the bigger problem, so I've got nothing against men. I'm in the process of arguing with a Tiktok feminist about how she underestimates the trials men go through.
But yeah, by all means, ask your question. Go for it. I might miss it, but you can send me a message or whatever you want if you want me to see it and I don't... or just tell me on here.
Since I only have one question to ask I've decided to ask something different. Besides, it'd be too hard to explain the question I was going to ask on your behalf. But I will let you know what question I asked if you want to take a look at it.
Go to politics looks for the guy with the lavender shirt it's called tolga
@rorrotobro you need to get outside and touch some grass.