Is it time to recognize women have agency and can be accountable for their choices?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Feminist Professor DROPS The MIC on Cornell 7 Debate / Amala Ekpunobi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq7ptKp-LUU

It has truly become a sad standard held in our society.

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Honestly, it's sad when old school Democrat feminists have to explain this reality. We live in such a backwards world. Please watch the video before answering or making assumptions.

[Lesbologist]

Imagine being her that's faught for all this shit for her gender... only to watch the power they got out of it being pissed away just to justify trash.

The average woman with basic morals are going to start to not be on board with the things being pushed. If not... it will only get worse until they deus vult the shit out of it themselves and I'm surprised they haven't already against some of these agendas.

What agendas? I don't know, you think every woman out there wants to have the shit beat out of them in sports because women can be men? Is it just cool now to kill your toddlers just as long as you're a woman? What's the latest one with this chick that snorts drugs of dick and gang bangs just to accuse everybody of SA when she starts getting made fun of for being a slut...

The average chick with basic morals... she's not on board with this shit man. But that's the shit being pushed.

[Chazmatazz269]

There’s this war cry from the left. An expectation that all good men must stand up and fight against the evil patriarchy. If we don’t, then we are automatically part of the problem. Even “average men with basic morals”.
So it’s perfectly fair for men in turn to expect that “average women with basic morals” stand up and oppose the nonsense narratives and agendas of their boisterous sisters in the sisterhood of man-haters. Otherwise they automatically become part of the problem. Right?
Are we equals or are we not? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. No?

[Lesbologist]

@Chazmatazz269 Pretty much... all I fear more is it's just not going to happen and jusitice is going to slap them all like a tone of bricks.

[Chazmatazz269]

It absolutely is, especially now that the dirtbag Letitia James is involved.

[Lesbologist]

@Chazmatazz269 Like it wasn't already bad enough... It just keeps getting better in a bad way. lolz

[Just_Ken]

Imagine i took a bunch of drink a drugs and went out and fucked multiple people in a gang bang. Would my wife acknowledge that I was raped or call my a cheating manwhore?

How about if I took a bunch of drugs and drink and decided to drive my car through a McDonald's? Would the arresting officer realise that I being intoxicated and drugged up can't consent to being arrested? Would the court accept that I was too drugged and drunk to be held accountable for my bad decisions?

[Just_Ken]

How many times have I been raped over the years as I was too intoxicated to consent?

[shish_kebab]

Fro, I watched the video because I didn't want to be one of those people who never watch the video and then give an opinion that has nothing to do with the question.

I would be lying if I said I had many threesomes shortly after high school. However, me and my homies had many foursomes, fivesomes, sixsomes and sevensomes.

But let me explain;

Myself along with five of my homies were really shitty at picking up women. We didn't have the gift of gab like Craig did. Craig was a pickup artist. So while the rest of us brought pizza and beer to our weekly parties, Craig took care of the "party favors."
The party favors were Robin, Carrie and Tammy. Only one of them would show up to a party at a time. I can't remember there ever being more than one of them at a party.
So us homies would watch MTV, drink beer and eat cheap Tony's microwave pizza. When the mood hit us, there was always a party favor waiting on the living room carpet.
These parties were weekly and sometimes twice a week. Craig's parents had two houses and they stayed in the fancy one and let Craig have the lesser of the two. This went on for about a year until we all went off to college. And those party favors came back again and again and again. There was no gun to their head, this is what they wanted and liked.
Back then it never even occurred to us that we could be accused of something nefarious. The truth be told, we would have had just as much fun at the party without the party favors. They were just a little something extra that Craig managed to get for us.

Your video is quite shocking because she actually went to bat for the guys in that scenario. Even the host of the video was shocked by that.

I don't know if you followed the Brett Kavanaugh hearing, but he was accused of a rape that supposedly happened 30 years prior.
It was all bullshit that the Democrats concocted because they didn't want a conservative supreme Court justice. The Democrats said if a man is accused of rape, he's guilty until he can prove his innocence. How can you possibly prove you're innocent of something that happened 30 years ago? The so-called rape victim said she doesn't remember who raped her, but she did remember seeing Brett Kavanaugh near the punch bowl, so it must have been him. The scumbag Democrats got ahold of Brett's college yearbook and found out that he liked beer in college. Can you imagine a college man liking beer? Oh my God that's just crazy.
To this day, Brett is on the Supreme Court but Harvard fired him at his teaching job and he was no longer allowed to be the coach of a women's soccer team.

[Chazmatazz269]

We have two options. We either give them all of the responsibilities, accountability and sacrifices that they have long deflected in their campaign for supremacy. Or we take away all of the power, freedom and privilege that they enjoy as a result of the same.
I didn’t watch the video because it didn’t load properly and your question doesn’t necessitate that to formulate an informed response. I will say that i have lost respect for most prominent feminists. Camille Paglia and Christina Hoff Sommers are the chief exceptions. Both remain steadfast in their understanding of equality and the rights and responsibilities of both sexes in maintaining it.
Many people forget that Warren Farrell was the first man elected to the board of the New York branch of the National Organization for Women, and the only man elected three times to the board. Like other prominent feminists, he has been marginalized but more so. It’s easy to vilify him because he’s a man. Feminists just have to stop talking about the OGs like Paglia and Sommers, and hope that they go away.
I follow Amala. I’m sure i’ll come across the video soon enough. You might also like Arielle Scarcella, if you don’t already follow her.

[Screenwriter]

As Paglia and Amala say, there is the reality of the consequences of actions. The drunk, drug addled teen who consented to sex with two men at the frat house room, and should not have been drinking period, because she was underage, nor taking drugs because it was inadvisable since she was drunk, nor consenting to have sex at a drunken, drug addled frat house party, put herself in harm's way.

She did not deserve to be raped by the five other men who rain a train on her. But she was SO out of it, she did not have the wherewithal to get to an emergency room to havea rape kit performed to have evidence of what was only referred to in the men's texts.

She cannot blame Cornell University for her putting herself in a precarious position. She can sue the bar for serving her, if that could be proved. She might be able to sue the frat house for serving alcohol to her as a minor. But the problem, again, is proof.

The only person who can take care of you, is YOU. Don't put yourself in the position to be victimized and expect anyone else to rescue you. This is unfortunate, but what is..

[Chazmatazz269]

https://youtu.be/yVM1_MDYGTQ?is=K2-BUE7EBhO0a7V3

[Screenwriter]

@Chazmatazz269 I think someone who is severely inebriated and drunk cannot give informed consent. And the man who advertized her for sex and the men who assaulted her were also drunk and drugged. This is an 18 year old, not a mature adult woman and I'm sure there is emotional, mental confusion on her part. Drunk people do not act rationally and there is evidence that she could not remember everything that happened, which I'm sure is true for the men involved too.

There are many gray areas here, mostly because of the youth and inebriation of all of the parties. The school has responsibility, the bars where she was served alcohol, her sorority house where she was served alcohol, the frat house and the university where this behavior was unmonitored.

if one or two actors had halted their behavior, this would likely have not happened. But young women must protect themselves more than anyone or anything outside of themselves. Young men need to be trained not to take advantage of what looks "easy." Schools and frats are supposed to protect their members. Lots of wrong to pass around because the very young are not full fledged adults.

[Chazmatazz269]

The problem is that the standard suggests that only women are relieved of accountability for their wrongs when under the influence of drugs and alcohol. The boys involved have claimed that they too were too drunk to consent, and therefore also victims. The state will only pursue charges against the males though. No state in the US has EVER charged a woman with rape for having sex with a man who was under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs. Do you think that it’s never happened? The travesty of justice isn’t that a bunch of young people indulged in questionable decision making while under the influence. The travesty of justice is that only men and boys are held accountable for their actions involving crimes that women and girls are committing just as frequently. Did you know that multiple states have allowed women who raped little boys, and got pregnant, to take their child victims to court for child support? Instead of using the pregnancy as evidence of sex crimes against a minor, they used it as evidence that an underage male wasn’t taking legal and financial responsibility for a child that he literally couldn’t consent to helping create!
The left wants a world in which boys are more harshly punished for a night of MUTUAL indiscretions than a woman who murders her children in cold blood. And they are getting it!

[Screenwriter]

@Chazmatazz269 There were two men who the young woman consented to having sex with. There were five others she did not consent to. She did not force herself on any of the men involved and they willingly chose to force themselves on a drunk, person despite her protests. e. She indicated that she cried and protested. But in her state, she couldn't get up and leave or push them away and in their state, they just fell on her. Neither were innocent. A lot of wrong went on.

I don't know if punishement other than school punishment can be meted out. There is no proof of rape other than admissions by some of the men. Because of the states of all involved, and the ages, there is some lessening of culpability. This is similar to the culpability of the state of the Clancy woman. Psychosis means disordered thought: hearing voices that don't exist, thinking things that aren't true about yourself, drastic things: because I am a bad mother I should end my children's suffering by killing them.

She is not the first mother or parent who has killed their children. Many men and a few women have done the same. It is usually preceded by custody battles with revenge in mind. This isn't the case with Clancy. And psychotic people are still able to execute plans. Another misapprehension in the Clancy case.

Drunks: unable to sensibly do much. Gray gray gray areas...

They should all be suspended from Cornell, true.

And the issue with the Clancy case is another rarity. This woman didn't kill her children in cold blood. She had a history of mental illness and it was exacerbated with post partum depression. She had told her husband several times that she wanted to kill the children because she was a failure as a mother. The father said he didn't think she was going to do anything like that... She said voices were telling her to kill her children.

[MrChinaski]

Woman gets inebriated. Things happen much of what is disputed.

The key issue is that 2 1/2 weeks pass in which she became aware that peers were gossiping about her in derogatory terms. And THEN she reports she was assaulted.

I don't know what happened that night. I don't know whether and to what extent she did and did not consent.

I do think that men's lives shouldn't be ruined because someone changes their mind when it becomes socially convenient for her to do so.

And I'm sure there will be abuse incoming... from somewhere...

[gasman70]

yes, there was a movie with Jack Nickulson, and he was a writer of women's novels. He was told that he wrote women so well, and how could he do it. He said all I do is take a man, and take away any responsibility and accountability and you have a woman.

[shish_kebab]

The movie was "As Good As It Gets."
It's one of my all-time favorites and I highly recommend it.

He hates dogs and gays. But when it gets to know them, he likes them. 😜

[gasman70]

@shish_kebab thanks for reminding me of the name of the movie. That second part is hilarious. I just never forgot that line though, about women, and how they are. Then near the end, the woman says, I just want a normal boyfriend, and the older woman says, there's no such thing as normal.

[shish_kebab]

Jack was spot on about his view of women.

[gasman70]

@shish_kebab absolutely, thats why it was memorable

[Chazmatazz269]

Boy, you really messed that up. Here’s a refresher.

https://youtu.be/pBz0BTb83H8?is=PGhn4aJPbb20zQUb

[shish_kebab]

@Chasmatazz269

He said "responsibility" instead of "reason."
To you that means he really messed it up? You're seriously going to nitpick like that?

[gasman70]

@shish_kebab thank you, it was something that I remembered off the top of my head from not watching the movie for 7 or 8 years. I mean, geeze, it's a very similar idea, in fact, reason is more of a indictment of a woman's personality than mine.

[shish_kebab]

You nailed it.

[gasman70]

@shish_kebab thanks my man

[strateguy632]

i wonder. they get post abortion depression and post birth depression. and lindsey clancy can't be held responsible -can she?

[Anonymous]

Absolutely. Last year I had sex with 5 different guys. I regretted it after, enjoyed it during but I was t raped.

[Paige2006]

Yes and it should have always been

[sirderpsalot123]

Believe all men!!