Now that science has determined that lower cognitive ability is linked to strong Christian nationalist views, what can be done to reverse this?

[yulbsari]

https://www.psypost.org/lower-cognitive-ability-is-linked-to-stronger-christian-nationalist-views-even-after-accounting-for-education/

[jennifer_bloom]

As a Christian, I do not believe that nationalists represent Christian views. I am not an American, but I do not believe that any kind of bigotry is Christian. I may not endorse or encourage the LGBT community, but I believe you can treat them with respect and let them make their own choices, without beating them up or shaming them in public. I do not take a set of handcuffs and force my non-religious friends into church against their will. I respect their right to disagree with me.

[yulbsari]

Thank you for being fair, rational and open minded!

[Anonymous]

Religion inherintly requires a lack of critical thinking to believe things without question. And as far as Nationalism, well, Trump loves the poorly educated for a reason. Mindless followers galore there, who also won't question him.

[GothEgg]

I've met some very next level intelligent atheists but the majority are morons deluded themselves that they are.

What i noticed about people with real high IQs is that they never insult others who aren't as smart as them or even dismiss their opinions. Whereas insults about intelligence is usually the go to of someone projecting their own insecurities about their own lack of intelligence.

[yulbsari]

I'm skeptical when I hear someone say that the majority of atheists they know are morons. Do you say that because they don't believe as you do, or challenge your beliefs? I would prefer to hang out with atheists over condescending religious fanatics any day. Christian nationalism is truly frightening to me. There are strong undertones of misogyny and racism as most Christian nationalist leaders proudly espouse such viewpoints. This conclusion was based on a sound study. You might want to actually click the link and read the study.

[GothEgg]

No i say it because they can't think for themselves and get upset that others disagree with them. Atheism has become a religion to them.
So are Christians in Africa racist? Is the Pope nationalistic? Are those female bishops and ministers in the Anglican church misogynistic?
There are 700 Christians in africa. 80-90% of African Americans are are Christian. Large numbers of African Americans are both black nationalists and Christian.

[yulbsari]

Atheists can't think for themselves? Are you anti-science and ant-critical thinking? How can you possibly have a rational discussion with someone who believes that "God" created the Earth in 7 days and needed to "rest" when there are countless galaxies in the Universe, or who believes that women came from the rib of a man, or that somebody "rose the dead" (has not been repeated)? We just laugh at children who believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus, but believe these stories? Also, you are NOT PAYING ATTENTION! The post question and linked study are about CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM, NOT CHRISTIANITY. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING! Racism and misogyny PERMEATE CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM! Please understand the differences!!!

[GothEgg]

Most people can't think for themselves, atheists are no different. For instance Critical thinking. Most atheists will use it as well as many other buzzwords because they think it makes them sound like they've a very high IQ.
Yet none of them will apply to core elements of Critical thinking such as

1. Questioning assumptions.
They never question their own assumptions.

2. Recognizing bias
They never recognise their own bias.

3. Evaluating evidence
They never evaluate any evidence

4. Considering perspectives.
They very arrogantly never look past their own viewpoint.

Do you use critical thinking. If you aren't honestly following these four points then you are not?

Those that equate Nationalists who are Christian as white supremacists stems from bias related to political ideology and Godwins's Law. They see White Supremacy everywhere in everything. Have you seen the long list of what is now being called White Supremacy?

Going to church
Nationalism
Mathematics
Proper Grammar
Proper Spelling
Lord of the Rings
Going to the Gym
Not liking the smell of Body odour
Having motor insurance
Owning a home
Having a technical degree
Drinking Milk
Eating meat
Having parents that are married
Christmas
Not watching porn

The list goes on and on. Recently women having bare nails instead of painted or fake nails.

[yulbsari]

So, Christian nationalists follow your 4 "core elements of critical thinking" and atheists don't? I'm sorry that you are not able to think for yourself. Life is very difficult if you're not able to do so! Your statement points to you being a religiius fanatic. Also, please cite the sources of where you are getting your "list" of the components of Christian nationalism. Your list strikes me as being absolutely baseless.

Facts and sources are important when making an argument.

[GothEgg]

I dont know if Christian Nationalists follow these core elements of critical thinking, but generally like most people whoch includes atheists id say no.
To be clear its not my core elements. You can't say you are using critical thinking unless you are applying these.

One of the grear thing about Critical Thinking is that it promotes intellectual humility and openness to adjusting your views when presented with new facts. Does that sound like you?

The list is from various university papers and studies done over they years. You should read up on the subject. The latest one bare nails.

[yulbsari]

Yes, it does sound like me! You claim you presented "new facts" to. me, right? What university paper? From what universities? Once you present actual facts, then I can give you a cogent response.

[GothEgg]

The burden is on you to educate yourself on the subject. Use what we call critical thinking.

[yulbsari]

Like I thought, you have nothing. It's not a good look just making sh!+ up to make yourself appear informed. Don't embarrass yourself any further. Critical thinking doesn't involve pulling nonsense out of your @$$ and calling it facts. Have a nice night!

[GothEgg]

When thinking critically intentionally look for facts and opinions that contradict your personal beliefs.

[yulbsari]

I simply asked you to provide citations for the "evidence" that you are presenting. Clearly, since you are not able to do that, you are telling me that it's my responsibility to "look for facts and opinions that contradict your personal beliefs"? Do you understand that opinions and facts are not the same? Again, please provide the sources for the "facts" that you are presenting! It's patently ridiculous for anyone to look for proof for assertions that YOU are putting forth! Am I supposed to do your homework because you can't do your own? This is simply more proof that religious fanatics are not comfortable when someone questions their beliefs based on facts! This is why so many scientists were tortured and murdered by religious leaders throughout history for proposing facts like the Earth is not the center of the Universe, and the Earth is not flat! These same religious leaders burned women at the stake claiming they were"witches"if they didn't like their behavior! ! Isn't it interesting that they weren't burning men at the stake? I wonder why? Waving around religious texts and calling them "facts" is the behavior of unhinged lunatics! No wonder we have had and continue to have so many wars based on religion!

[GothEgg]

I can't provide you links to anything as im new. The information is freely available anywhere. The BBC recently pulled a story about how bare nails are white supremacy.

As for burning people at the stake. That is human nature. If you look at Witch trials of the past what was the main reason for the witch burning? If burning people at the stake was legal today do you not think people would do it regardless of religion for say that black juror on the Lyndsay Clancy trial or for Ed Sheeran not supporting Gaza? Mass Hysteria and witch hunts are still a thing in the west without religion jusg look at Covid, we just currently dont burn people at the stake

[yulbsari]

Please don't insult my intelligence by telling me that the reason you can't cite sources is because you're "new." You're 21 years old (allegedly) and were born in the Internet age. If the information is "freely available anywhere", then provide the citation. What is the title and date of the BBC story claiming that "bare nails is white supremacy"? You can at the very least research that and provide the information.
In the US, religious leaders in conjunction with political figures (usually the same people) burned women at the stake claiming they were agents of Satan. Again, you have avoided my question as to why no men were burnt at the stake for being agents of Satan? I detect obvious misogyny there... misogyny persists in Christian nationalist circles... including a revised movement to take away women's right to vote. Christian nationalism is fueling hatred against many groups. The KKK identifies as a white Christian organization... of course, that's a contradiction, but they still do. What "witch hunts" and "mass hysteria in the West" are you specifically referring to. I guess I shouldn't expect any sources from you on those topics either because you're "new," right? Again, you're simply giving your opinions... no facts.

[GothEgg]

Type "BBC bare nails" you should get the guardian newspaper.
In the US and Germany prominent atheists supported and enacted eugenics programmes such as the mass sterilisation of women of colour, the poor, criminals, mentally unwell and disabled.
2 men as far as I know out of 14 were burned at the stake at Salem. There were other reasons for the Salem witch trials other than religion though religion was used as the device. Again mass hysteria is a human condition as is greed and power. How many people would purdge their neighbours or enemies if crime was legal. We saw the ugliness of human nature in Rwanda with the hutis and tutis. In the soviet union and warsaw pact where people reported their neighbours to the kgb. In nazi occupied Europe where people reported their neighbours to the Gestapo and later stole their property and moved into their homes.
The KKK and other white supremacist groups are being funded by groups like the Southern Law poverty centre.

[GothEgg]

Think on this. Its off topic slightly but my grandparents in the 60s and 70s used to work in a huge asylum. What they said was that there were people put in there that were not crazy for years sometimes for their entire life so maybe a relative like a sibling, guardian, uncle, step parent or whatever could gain control of their land or money they inherited or made. Girls or boys that had been raped by a relative or high standing member of society to stop them speaking out. Sometimes lobotomies were performed. Unexplained pregnancies were common, as were abortions and stds. One women who had been abused by her judge father and committed was actually being raped and got pregnant by him, he adopted the child.

[yulbsari]

White supremacy groups funded by the SLPC? Are you totally insane? Atheists enacting genocide? Do you mean Nazis? Are saying that atheists were responsible for genocide in Rwanda? WTAF are you talking about? Where are you getting this garbage? Again, how do you spew this nonsense without any citations to back it up? The more you go on and on, the crazier you look!

[yulbsari]

What the hell do your off-topic comments have to do with my initial premise? Are you saying that atheists are responsible for all of these atrocities? I'm really beginning to question your mental stability here. What is your educational background? Where are you from? Are you really 21 years old?

[GothEgg]

I was surprised too but them I used to spport the BLM until found out about the mansions they bought.

In April 2026, a federal grand jury indicted the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) on charges of wire fraud, bank fraud, and conspiracy to commit money laundering, alleging that the group secretly funneled over $3 million to individuals associated with white supremacist and far-right extremist groups.
According to the U. S. Department of Justice (DOJ) and a subsequent House Judiciary Committee inquiry, the donor funds were allegedly directed to leaders and members of several specific extremist organizations:
• Ku Klux Klan (KKK)
• United Klans of America
• National Socialist Party of America (American Nazi Party)
• National Socialist Movement
• Aryan Nations (including the Aryan Nation Motorcycle Club)
• American Front
• Unite the Right National Alliance (including payments allegedly made to an organizer of the 2017 Charlottesville protest)

[GothEgg]

Nazi atheists & communist atheists.

Im trying to illustrate the dark side of human nature. How regardless of any particular religion how fast people will turn on each other or join in on a witch hunt if its socially acceptable. Critical thinking my friend.

[yulbsari]

Ahhh, so now you learned how to cut and paste from articles? Did you just learn how to do that today since you're "new"? Do you know the difference between an indictment and a conviction my friend? Look it up. I'm sure you just learned how to do that too, right? I'm certain the case will fail. It should come as no surprise that the Trump Administration is targeting SPLC. There are just one of Trump's many enemies.
With regard to the "BLM mansion" deal, this might give you more insight:
www.mebere.com/inside-black-lives-matter-mansion-controversy-transparency-finances-and-movements-real-impact
You have done your best to distract from my initial question about the study I cited about Christian nationalism... bouncing from one topic to the next. You're arguments pointing at other groups and saying it's all just "human nature" doesn't give Christian nationalism a pass. If anything, you have just proven that Christian nationalism is just as dangerous, if not more. You veered way of course. I was expecting an intelligent response to my original question and the study I linked here.

[moddy_the_mod]

lol. "science".