When do you think life in the US will get back to normal?

[Amy10223]

[WhiteSteve]

Depends entirely on if the Democrats have any balls. Hakeem Jeffries out here talkin’ about “The American people don’t want to get even; they want to move forward.” What a PREPOSTEROUS statement. Give us a Speaker who will TAKE ACTION. This movement was so bad and destructive to our nation, an example needs to be made and a precedent set.

We need legal guardrails installed now, because everything we just trusted wouldn’t be fucked with, because who would ever want to be so destructive…. welp, we learned THAT’S WRONG. I can’t think of anything MORE important than authoritarianism-proofing the U. S. in light of what MAGA has just tried to do in this last decade. No movement on any part of the political spectrum should ever be allowed to hijack anything to this extreme ever again, and we apparently can’t just trust that our citizens would never elect bad actors. I’ve never seen more political enthusiasm THAN this effort to elect bad actors. Truly enemies of America and everything we should stand for. Dangerous people, all of them.

So we need to radically accept that some of our people are like this, stop playing this politeness game where we entertain their fuck shit as a legitimate counter opinion worthy of consideration, and safeguard ourselves in the future from our worst citizens’ terrible decisions. Like “NO, I’m sorry, but we can’t just let you have groups like ICE running around roughing people up and killing them while being unidentifiable and shielded from accountability.” Absolutely fucking NOT; what the fuck is wrong with you for even wanting that?

Democrats need to go for the neck. And there’s only so much they can do in this term. This particular Congress won’t be able to accomplish much, nor should they be expected to; this is just corking the holes in the dike.

No progress; only preservation and prevention. Fully on defense, so I don’t want to hear anyone in 2028 complaining that they didn’t get anything done. We have two more years of MAGA, and that’s the bed we have to lie in. This is a damage control mission, solely for putting brakes on the MAGA agenda. The next two years will still be bad, and MAGA still owns the blame.

It’s gonna be a long road back. And I hope they take the right path, and deal with all of this HARSHLY; otherwise, this will just happen again.

[WhiteSteve]

I can’t really articulate it better than this kid does…
https://youtu.be/oUpUSCsTBBM

[Still-alive]

Yeah i really don’t like Hakeem Jeffries or Chuck Schumer. We need justice badly! Nuremberg trials 2.0

[WhiteSteve]

@Still-alive Saw some dude on YouTube who said it best: “I WANT MY SCALPS.”

[MisterWack]

Kick out Jeffries and Schumer!
Scalps! Scalps! Scalps!

[msc545]

It will probably be several more years since we are stuck with Trump for those years, unless of course something unusual happens.

[MisterWack]

The road ahead is long, so long because it doesn’t start or end with Trump.

We have a broken system that allowed Do Nothing Democrats to fester, Trump to rise, and billionaire oligarchs keeping the system broken with dark money SuperPACs and shady back deals to keep it broken for their self interest.

They have corporate welfare from the government, total lack of accountability for their wide spread business crime syndicates, and foreign entities who see America as an open purse to collect their dues.

Not to mention wars, drones, weaponry, missiles, etc. all for the express purpose of giving into the military industrial complex.
We have the education system broken to keep the education industrial complex.
We keep our prisons overflowed over mandatory minimum sentences over the littlest of infractions and no road to redemption as our solution to homelessness, for the prison industrial complex.

Look, America needs reform. Without that reform or laser focus towards a collective as Americans then we aren’t ever going to fix it. It doesn’t start or end with Trump, Republicans, MAGA (even though they are corporately extreme), The Left has plenty of Establishment corruption too. The Midterms gave us a taste of momentum and cementing momentum into public consciousness.

Next Primaries we need to kick out the corporate elite and replace them with Far Left, Socialist, Progressive candidates to do the will of the people, the right way by putting constituents first!

[Amy10223]

I agree with all! Especially your last paragraph.

[MisterWack]

@amy10223 Love how you agreed with my last paragraph. I find its the most important that wraps a neat bow as a middle finger to the system and encouraging our fellow man and woman to get their hands dirty and put in the work to fix it, not just leave it to ruin.

[Amy10223]

Yes, good way of putting it. 👍

[MisterWack]

@amy10223 Thank you friend! 👍

[loveslongnails]

Normal? That's not where you want to be. "Normal" for the USA was/is an unprecedented struggle for most people, and an endless treadmill leading to debt no matter how much you work. "Normal" for the USA for the past 50 years has meant the wealthy gain more wealth, income disparity grows, and mega-corporations put small business owners out of business, or they buy up any healthy competition.

You don't want normal again. You first want to stop the disease that is maga/Trump/billionaire-ism controlling all that you eat, do and think. Then you want to root out as much corruption as you can, which is an outrageous task. Meanwhile, the reputation that the US government has an ounce of sense or can be trusted needs to be established again, but you still have the Mango Molester for 2 more years.

I realize that "just having them stop" might feel normal again, but it's still far from workable to pick up where we left off in January 2025. The US was still cleaning up from the first Trump debacle then, and now this term is a full blown 9.6 Richter scale disaster affecting the whole world.

[Amy10223]

By normal, I mean no more ICE, no more military troops in large cities, bringing back the thousands of people who were fired or laid off because of DOGE and Elon Musk declaring he was "saving money" but getting rid of important government jobs, and getting rid of MAGA and their agenda. Hopefully they will die out like a phase.

[loveslongnails]

Like I was saying, I realize that will be great and feel great just to be rid of their idiocy, but things are still a very long, long way from a good normal even after that's over. It will definitely be a relief, I agree.

[Amy10223]

Yes, I see. And, we were never a "great" nation to begin with, we have a violent past, as many other nations do. Beginning with taking land from natives and killing them off, taking land from Mexico, taking islands from the Spaniards, bombing of Japan with an atomic bomb; slavery (yes they had slaves in other countries, but they didn't lynch them if they "acted up"); violent attacks on Black cities (Tulsa Race massacre of 1921), 1960 riots and Jim Crow laws. We are far from perfect, and so a large part of the world admires us and fears us as well. I did mean the current administration. The only "good" thing that ever came from it, is that it showed us how divided the nation is, how people can be controlled by the mind of a man who is like them, and how dense many Americans are.

[loveslongnails]

Agreed, but that's the plan. Elitists don't want an educated populace, which is why our schools are designed to produce laborers. The problem now is that automation is eliminating the need for people in factories, and any necessary labor is cheaper overseas. So what do you do with humans when AI and robots replace them in the work force? Birth rates go down, but you still have too many uneducated people. Hmmm... you send the men and boys into wars? It's a new, real dilemma.

[lightbulb27]

some good points from the father but what normal. if you mean like my grandparents eeking out existence out of their garden... good chance we get back there within 20 years for most.

you mean where the border was porous and nyc was housing thousands in hotel rooms?

The problems are worse now as trump weakens, currency declines, market declines, debt rises.

If you were a corporation about to put $50 billion into a factory in USA because of tariffs... you gonna go foward with that investment when dems are going to change policy and go opposite?

I think our new normal will be more like a violent ocean.

[Amy10223]

They are all good points on the part of the Father.
1- The border was porous-- when are we going to make it easier for people who want to come and work here to make a decent living easier? That's why they try to come illegally. And even when they do--they DO pay taxes, and they DON't get medical assistance or gov't benefits like most think. Also--Greg Abbot was the one who sent those people to NYC as revenge for the"liberals".
2. Tariffs were and still are a terrible idea, which isn't good for our economy as well as the world, and few people know how they work. Those tariffs are road for any the US taxpayers, bit by the corporations.
I'm hoping and thinking we will heal slowly but surely.

[Amy10223]

** the tariffs are paid by taxpayers, not by the corporations.

[lightbulb27]

some good topics but likely only by talking, too hard to write and get any progress.

Be great if people could actually talk through these issues. I do think it will come down to capacity... we are out of housing in my area, so where would they go what jobs can they take etc..

Tariffs and limits essential to save our auto industry, or china wipe us out.

[lightbulb27]

It's certainly more "christ like" to open and make welcome others. It may be impactful to many, so countries control it. Some govts, did more outsourcing and forcing of creating of jobs... like creation of planned obsolscence... which ensures things get thrown away vs repaired. I think there's same philosphies going into pets... to ensure the pets die sooner than they would if they were treated optimally.

One could argue the entire globe should be leveled... so people of simililar productivity are paid the same. that be a hard discussion and change for some. people don't like to lose stuff (power and wealth), but it's what happens in these cycles.

[lightbulb27]

not easy being a human... harder trying to live to a higher calling and ethic.

[CaptainObivous]

Thanks to the extremely toxic far left and far right the answer is likely never and it's designed to be this way so we fight among each other instead of the corrupt elite.

[Still-alive]

Its gonna take awhile but enforcing the law and locking a lot of these Trump people up would be a great start. We need justice badly

[unfaltering]

Ha! You lefties think you actually won. This is such great comedy. Reality is going to hit like a sledge hammer to the chest. :)

[AgentG111]

As soon as we get all the Muslims and POSs out of our country who are constantly trying to ruin us. Lock down and remove church from state and follow the Constitution.

[Anonymous]

Hopefully not far into the future if Republicans win next election. Unfucking Bidennomics takes time, and now the Dems are going to prolong the time until we back to normality.

[832loverboy73]

People are still gunning down people, so U. S. life IS back to normal !!!

[Anonymous]

It will take some time for sure. We all just want normal and stop the crazy.

[_Jenny_]

@amy10223 Not soon, maybe a depression

[Paige2006]

I don't even remember when it was normal

[Anonymous]

Nope the war is not over