Was Nazi Socialist Social programmes the same as the Green New Deal?

[BlackFalcon03]

Someone here told me that if you have Fire departments, Police and Roads you live in a Socialist Country.

The primary Nazi social programmes and state-run initiatives included:

Welfare & Financial Aid

• National Socialist People's Welfare (NSV): The primary Nazi Party welfare organization. It absorbed or disbanded independent charities to monopolize social work. The NSV provided food distribution, operated thousands of day-nurseries, and financed holiday homes for mothers.

• Winter Support Programme (Winterhilfswerk / WHW): An annual winter charity drive managed by the NSV. It collected public donations, food, and clothing to distribute to poor Germans, serving as a high-profile propaganda tool to foster national solidarity.

• Mother and Child Relief Agency (Hilfswerk Mutter und Kind): An NSV branch providing financial aid, health care, and specialized rest homes for pregnant women and mothers.

Youth & Family Policy

• Hitler Youth (Hitlerjugend / HJ) & League of German Girls (Bund Deutscher Mädel / BDM): Compulsory youth organizations that combined physical fitness, sports, outdoor activities, and strict ideological indoctrination. The BDM specifically focused on physical education, collective athletics, and preparing young women for domestic life and motherhood.

• Marriage Loans & Child Subsidies: Financial incentives offered to newlywed couples in the form of interest-free loans, which were partially forgiven upon the birth of each child, aiming to increase the birth rate of the "Aryan" population.

• The Mother's Cross (Ehrenkreuz der Deutschen Mutter): A state decoration and social incentive program

that awarded bronze, silver, or gold medals to German mothers based on the number of children they produced

[Chazmatazz269]

Those are socialist programs and policies, that doesn’t mean that you live in a socialist country. There’s a difference.
Socialism is the opposite of authoritarianism. Socialism requires unfettered equality to all things. The instant you establish an authority to dictate “socialism” it ceases to be socialism. Full stop. No exceptions. This is absolutely how socialism functions. The closest thing we have to true socialism is labor unions. The elected president of the union has absolutely no more privileges than i have as a member. He can’t achieve anything without a majority vote and he can’t benefit more than any other member from any given policy or practice. It’s 100% achievable and it doesn’t actually limit productivity like the idiots who scream “socialism” like Chicken Little crying about the sky falling. I don’t believe it’s achievable on a large scale. At some point you have to give the governing body some authority in order to enforce policies. The problem is that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Contrary to popular myth, the US isn’t a proper capitalist state either. The rich and powerful benefit more than the less wealthy and less powerful benefit from the majority of policies and practices. You better learn to appreciate those parks and roads, and just accept lousy policing or the lack thereof, because that’s all the equality you’re gonna get in this country.
While you’re pondering things you seem to not really even care to understand, tell me more about how much you hate handouts while you justify churches and churchgoers equal access to land, police protection and fire protection, all without paying a nickel in taxes.
Give it up, mate. You are wrong. You don’t have to be. ALL the facts are out there. Read more, post less, be less wrong more often. It’s so easy even a caveman can do it.

[BlackFalcon03]

"Those are socialist programs and policies, that doesn’t mean that you live in a socialist country. There’s a difference."

Accoring to socialists in america there isn't

[Snakeyes7]

I've been saying this for years. I am glad someone else is saying it now.

Though I'd argue it is more aligned with FDR's New Deal than GND. It is in response to the Weimar era which was so bad that paper money was actually worthless.

The difference between socialism then and now is that it actually used to have pride in their country, which we made out to be a bad thing nowadays. Yes even the USSR described the country as a replacement mother figure and Stalin as the father.

[FreyaRed]

Believe me or not. Commies in eastern Germany or other Warsaw Pact states had similar programs. National Socialist were still Socialist.
But modern """socialists""" differ. They are capitalists who despise democracy, with desire for communist regime and power structures. They think in their foolish naivety they will be top dogs in such system, while they are just useful fools, exploited and then scapegoated.

Ostracizing, insulting and belittling people about their apprentice or choice of clothes is the lowest leaver they use. This goes far beyond that.

[BlackFalcon03]

Agree completly

[goaded]

You can help working people for good and bad reasons. The Nazis were doing it so they could kill millions of "undesirables", the Green New Deal was to keep global warming in check so that millions of people wouldn't die.