What do you think about the Norwegian volleyball team that paid a fine for not wearing a skimpy bikini? Why do female athletes have to wear skimpy outfits?

[Anonymous]

"Norway's female volleyball team have said they will not wear bikini bottoms during the Olympic Games this summer.
Players swapped the traditional bikini bottoms for shorts during a match against Spain at the European Beach Handball Championship in Varna, Bulgaria, yesterday (18 July).
And the Norwegian federation has stated that it is willing to pay a fine - potentially 50 euros per player - for their defiance of the rules.
Speaking to AFP, Norwegian Handball Federation president Kare Geir Lio said: "Of course we would pay any fine. We are all in the same boat."
"The most important thing is to have equipment that athletes are comfortable with."

Source: www.ladbible.com/.../sport-norwegian-volleyball-team-refuse-to-wear-bikini-bottoms-at-olympics-20210719

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Athletes should wear what them make comfortable. If someone wants to wear these bikinis, they can do it. Therefore should be multiple option when it comes to athletes's outfit. Athletes who wa want to wear these bikinis, can do it and athletes who who want to wear the traditional sport clothes. Male volleyball player also dont have to wear skimpy clothes when playing volleyball

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Athletes should wear what them make comfortable. If someone wants to wear these bikinis, they can do it. Therefore there should be multiple options when it comes to athletes's outfit. Athletes who want to wear these bikinis, can do it and athletes who want to wear the traditional sport clothes, can wear modest sport clothes. Male volleyball players also dont have to wear skimpy clothes.***

[Screenwriter]

It's quite telling that female athletes' teams are being fined for NOT wanting to wear overtly revealing outfits for a sports event.

Do we see male athletes wearing skimpy outfits EXCEPT for swimming? And some swimmers wear full body suits to cut drag and avoid having to body shave. So, talk about FULL coverage.

I'd love to see male volleyball players in thong-bikini, banana-hammocks during the Olympics! They'd be laughed at AND have bruised penises: not that I wouldn't be entertained watching them. I would.

But this is about that old saw: patriarchal sexism. A majority of men LOVE seeing barely clad women in whatever sports they can be barely clad IN.

The bikini is a female thing, though in Europe, as many men don them. You don't see much of this in America: home of the staid. But all you have to do is look through Sports Illustrated. Where are the MEN in the swimsuit issue? (Maybe they've started featuring them, but I haven't heard about it.)

Why not put a sexy guy on the cover for us women to drool over. Well, it's a straight guy's magazine, for the most part, about sports men are interested in, with women athletes in sexy togs tossed in like bacon sprinkled over a salad. For spice.

And check out the cuts of women's athletic gear: regular ones AND running shorts. They're high and tight. There are a few models of men's gear cut like that for longer distrance runners: 10K and marathons. What about Daisy Dukes: that short, short made to e expose the lower curve of women's butt cheeks. The hangout was the point.

So do men wear parallel outfits? Maybe in the gay world, sometimes. But it's considered outrageous for men to show their bodies for women and other men to ogle. But, as always, women remain sexual OBJECTS. Men escape this, for the most part.

I find it hilarious that a transgender woman is on the cover of "Sports Illustrated" before a male athlete in a bikini is! A male, taking hormones to look like a female! The oddest form of male privilege I've ever heard of, and yet the most convoluted refusal to place males who LOOK like males as the same sexual objects women have been for ages and remain.

If the swimsuit issue featured BOTH sexes, equally unclsd, as models for the hottest summer gear, ESPECIALLY in an Olympic year, I'd have no beef with the whole idea. But this parading women's asses and taints before the WORLD on PURPOSE for cheap thrills. Sigh. We've not come as far as we all thought, have we?

Let's suit up the men's gymnastic team in those cute wrestling suits. OH WRESTLING!!! I forgot! drooooollllll...

[alice55]

I think that's completely ridiculous, who want to play wearing panties? that's not comfortable at all, also I don't see who is it disturbing for them to play with shorts... I think the people wanting to force them to wear bikini aren't interested in the sport but only interested in watching their body / butt. That's just disgusting and gross.
Those girls are Athlete not model...

[Screenwriter]

But sadly, it's been happening so long, women have been brainwashed into thinking those outfits are normal.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

There's the world we wish for, and then there's the world we live in. I'm not saying all this to be divisive or trollish, but realist.

Sex sells. Half the world probably wouldn't watch women's volleyball if the participants didn't wear bikinis.

So let's say we change the rules. Women can wear shorts now. Great.
Attendance / Viewership plummets.
Advertisers pull commercials from volleyball and invest in other summer games.
Advertising revenue drops, much like housing, and lowers revenues in other related games.

Men still have to wear spandex penis pants in most other summer games, but since it's men that can't possibly be sexist I guess?

I actually agree that the volleyball "uniform" is distasteful and shouldn't be mandatory, but then that starts a whole new problem...

Now that bikinis are non-mandatory, some girls still choose to wear them, and they are getting more attention than girls who don't (media, etc). Now the girls who chose to wear shorts are harassing the girls who choose to wear skimpier outfits.. It turns into middle school all over again, slut shaming, etc.

Careful what you wish for. Every choice has unintended consequences.

[Asker]

Men should not be forced to wear skimpy outfits too

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Men drool over volleyball indoors too where the girls wear shorts. So to bring more money is not the reason.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Indoors are usually younger aged girls, and those same men probably also attend child beauty pageants.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Outdoors are incredible fir woman. Just because they use shorts and not thongs they will not have a significant drop in views.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Who can say? I'm just taking an educated guess at what the marketers and moneybags of the industry are thinking. Sex and money control everything at the end of the day and the olympics are certainly not immune to that culture.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I really don't believe that short shorts would dissuade guys from watching those girls. Specially because they would still use tops.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I think you missed my point - it doesn't matter what we think, it matters what marketers and owners think.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I see...

[slatyb]

A ridiculous sexist rule. It's way past tone for the Olympics to end.

[Leavesbound]

Honestly this makes absolutely no sense to me at all. In most sports, the prevailing governing body for that sport decides things like uniform design. There is no valid reason for requiring women to be nearly naked. Certain sports I could see some requirement in letting the judges see the body to judge form but Volley ball isn't about form. You score a point or you don't score a point. You don't get bonus points for scoring a point beautifully. To me, a more practical team uniform design would be something similar to what tennis players wear since the movements are similar.

[Julie_TS]

Disregarding the whole uniform mess, which is complete nonsense.
I find myself more intrigued by the fact that the sport in question isn't beach volley, it's actually beach handball. I didn't even no that was a thing, lol. I'm slightly familiar with team handball, and I assume that this is simply version of that played on the beach? Who knew, lol

[Chriscunning]

LOL, true.

[Asker]

I only post the article. I still dont understand why athletes have to wear skimpy outfits. Male athletes also dont have perform in thongs

[Asker]

So are they allowed to wear shorts. Interesting

[Asker]

Oh sorry yes it is handball, not volleyball.

[Asker]

Thank you for clarification

[Asker]

Lol.

[Julie_TS]

@hi_it_is_me123 ... no, you're totally right about the uniform issue, regardless of the sport, I was just more intrigued that beach handball is a thing, let alone an Olympic sport, lol

[BlackBeauty90]

Statistically speaking women sports draw far less fans and far less profit than male sports. It's reality. Beach volleyball which doesn't exactly require any actual talent, it's a sport teens can play well enough, is one of the least popular sports for both men and women.

I don't agree with the bikini outfit but to be blunt if they didn't wear anything of the like the sport would certainly not be in the Olympics and even fizzle out as a competition entirely. As for males volleyball they wear shorter shorts, etc. so are revealing/sexualized in their own way as again without that draw the sport really wouldn't have a leg to stand on as a serious competition.

[MalesGOD1]

Without the visual sex appeal to men the financial profits in volleyball would plummet. Spectators that dominate volleyball are men and factually volleyball is not very popular to begin with. Market annalists know full well that sex sells and without seeing/showing hot fit thin women showing the most skin without seeing nipples, pubic hair (if they have any to be shown), anus and vulva men will not be interested. In this sport if women start covering up skin the more skin covered the less men and women (should have said and women earlier) will watch and advertising dollars will be lost. Before long only a few people will watch making advertisers stop advertising volleyball matches.
Sex sells admit it and get over this..

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

In indoors volleyball they are allowed to use shorts.
Beach volleyball would not get a much reduction in income just because the girls use shorts and not thongs. Let's be real men drool over volleyball indoors too where the girls wear shorts. So to bring more money is not the reason.

[MalesGOD1]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Always someone trying to change the facts.. This is about OUTDOOR volleyball that has paying advertisers not your 5th grade girls team playing the the indoors gymnasium.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I know. I was making a comparison.
Indoor volleyball, even the one played by adult woman, has men drooling while they use shorts.
Besides, do you really think that super fit women, using tops and small shorts, are not going to lure in men to watch them? Please.

[MalesGOD1]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You can live in your dilutional world you think is real all you want.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Them respond that question...
Do you really think that super fit women, using tops and small shorts, are not going to lure in men to watch them?

[MalesGOD1]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I don't respond to people who make any kind of demands, especially directly to me.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

It wasn't a demand. We are having a discussion and I am asking you to defend your point.

[MalesGOD1]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I suggest you do a question something like this to get yourself off.

If you knew what you know now and could go back in time and do things differently what things would you do differently and how?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

You can't answer it can you? Because you know very well men would still watch them.

[MalesGOD1]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Not an answer but a fact. Men will watch any woman or group of women doing anything. MORE men will watch women doing anything the more skin they show the more men they will attract. Women's volleyball where they wear bikinis (top and or bottoms) attract a MASSIVE crowd of men.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Beach volleyball is not a massive popular sport. Aside from the Olympics you don't even hear about it. And the little crowd that sees it will still see it if they play in short shorts. Let's be real they are sexy in those too. They would not make a massive different in spectators since there isn't many anyway.

[MalesGOD1]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 When watching cable/tv and I'm flipping channels and come across things like women's volleyball I stop and watch. While watching I am exposed to the advertising that is all around the perimeter of the court. Marketing departments know that I am by far not alone when this happens. Stop trying now your only digging yourself into a deeper hole.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

And you, like many others, would still watch if the girls were wearing short shorts. That is my sole point that you are not getting.

[MalesGOD1]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 What I am getting and know for sure about you if you have a shorts fetish going on right now and your getting yourself off talking to me about them. Stroke away..

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Let's not fool ourselves. It's not about a fetish. Men drool even over leggings. So of course we also like short shorts.

[Belgie]

The IOC is a terrible and corrupt organisation that is interested in money. Sexy women in tiny bikinis gets viewers. Viewers means better advertising revenue.

I love the Norwegians for doing this, even if it does mean less sexy athletic flesh is visible. I have porn I can watch if I want to, I don't need bikini clad athletes getting exploited to get my rocks off.

[Red_Arrow]

The competition is to showcase the sport and compete in it to find the best team. Nothing in that says tits and ass have to be on display! The team should wear the same uniform, but it should be one that is aimed at comfort for the competition, not for Playboy tryouts. I fully support the team for their decision.

[God_of_Thunder]

I don't blame them at all.

The "required" uniforms don't enhance their ability to play, in any way, so the only purpose they serve is visual appeal. It's an athletic competition, not a beauty contest. There's no reason for them to wear the bikinis, if they don't want to.

[1stupidrobot]

At this point, men feel almost entitled to sexualize women at every opportunity. For the most part, women seem to capitalize on opportunities to gain an advantage by virtue of looks, and it's ruining them. I can't even tell you how many people, mostly women, whom I've stopped following and unfriended because all they post are selfies. So 'respect' to the women who value themselves enough as people to challenge men's lascivious tendencies. It should happen more often. .

[Varanus]

I agree that teams should be allowed to wear whatever they wish, provided it doesn't give them an unfair advantage. There's nothing wrong with the bikinis, or with those shorts. Having to pay a fine for this is silly.

[NYCQuestions1976]

I actually find this story funny, because a different female Olympic athlete was fined for wearing shorts that were TOO revealing! So I guess the Olympic regulations are based on the particular sport in question? Either way, the whole thing is ridiculous and silly.

[DJB72]

It's about a group of chauvinist sitting in a room jerking off to the women playing. They are less interested in the sport and more interested in keeping their tiny cocklets stiff. Norway isn't exactly known for their beaches and tropical temperatures. It's a pity the other countries don't rally round and tell the IAAF where to shove this archaic, sexist rule

[Puppystarfish23]

How sexist, I can't believe this stuff is still happening in such prestigious events in this day and age. Women athletes are athletes who are there to play a game not be objectified and told what to wear. I personally wouldn't pay the fine and if they refused to let me compete the media and my lawyers would be hearing about it.

I doubt the male volleyball team will be wearing bikini shorts.

[Qdbrown]

This is not intermural sports. It's the Olympics, and the whole program is a money-making business with expectations. It says all of that in their contracts to compete. The athletes are product.

They better be glad these are not during the early games in Greece that requires athletes to compete in the nude.

[Brett18]

I have no problem with it.

But they would have known the outfits before hand. If there is sport rules or team rules or a "uniform" (even if it's a bikini). If you don't like it, don't enter the tournament.

Doesn't matter if they like it or not, sexy girls in bikinis, sell tickets.

[Asker]

It is still disgusting and this is why they choose to get fined. I also dont understand why many athletes have to wear skimpy outfits

[Brett18]

It's likely because it sells more tickets if I had to guess.

But same as if I choose not to wear a work uniform. I would be sent home.

I have the same problem with that girl who refused the American anthem a month or so ago.

Perfectly fine to do, but if you don't like your country. Don't represent them at the Olympics. And you are free to leave if you hate it so much.

[Asker]

Would you wear a thong? Imagine you want to be an athlete but many teams or whatever wants you to wear skimpy outfits. There are few sport teams that dont expect you wear skimpy outfits sofar i know Would you wear thong when there is almost no workplace that accept you for wesring modest clothes (?)

[Brett18]

I mean the sports I play are hockey and snowboarding. So their is no requirements for skimpy outfits.(and you can look at professional hockey players and snowboarders on the female side of the sport... they don't wear anything "skimpy" compared to the males.

But look at guys in mma fighting. A lot wear very small skin tight shorts.

Different sports have different requirements and you should know that before becoming a professional athlete.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Men drool over volleyball indoors too where the girls wear shorts. So to bring more money is not the reason

[Brett18]

I stated the fact that sex sells because it has and always will be a fact.

But my point was more that if thats their uniforms. If they don't want to wear them. Then tough, they should pick a different team or sport.

Same as someone who won't support their country during the anthem at the Olympics. If you don't like the country, don't represent them.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Sex sells but...
1. As professional athletes they should not be valued as that.
2. Using shorts would not diminish the spectators that much.

[Brett18]

#1. It's irrelevant that they shouldn't be viewed in a sexual way (I agree with you). But the simple fact is that they are and nothing is going to change that.
#2. Again, I agree, but that wasn't the question. The question is that "is it okay for the players to protest their uniforms" . In this case, no. Any sort of a protest should be behind closed doors in a professional manner with the owner or management.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Why? It calls more attention if the protest is in everyone's face.

[Brett18]

So, would you be okay with the "owners" kicking them off the team for it?

If I came into work and protest my work attire rather than having a professional discussion about it... I'd be fired on the spot.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Good luck with that. They are getting enough backlash as it is. Today women's issues have lots of power. They are already under fire for giving them a fine. Imagine if they fire them.

[Brett18]

Again their issue with the uniform is irrelevant. It's the simple fact that when they joined the team they knew what the "uniform" was. It's not up to them to protest to change it. If they don't like the uniform, they can talk to ownership/management in a professional and respectful manner or they shouldn't be on the team. I'm sure there are thousands of other athletes would gladly take their spot and happily wear the set uniform.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

This can end up in nothing. But it can also end in a revision of the rules. Who knows?

[Brett18]

Again, that's completely irrelevant to the original question

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

That's outrageous, but 50 euro is a small price to pay for a national sports team. They probably spend $1000 on a plane ticket and $500 on a hotel room.

That doesn't justify the ridiculous policy, but if anything it probably just gets the public on their side for a nominal cost so,

I bet the ladies are laughing about it.

[Asker]

Yes, at least they dont pay much fine and they dont get banned.

[Anonymous]

well this is certainly awkward. I heard other female volleyball players defend those bikini bottoms, saying they're comfortable and that's what they prefer to play in. Now I don't know who to believe. Are they comfortable? or are they just one more thing that the evil male species has forced upon these women for their own enjoyment? I need a feminist to straighten me out. lol.
Are all the women who support wearing things like that because it drives attention to their under-watched sports just slaves to the patriarchy or are they empowered? Can't have it both ways.

[Asker]

"well this is certainly awkward. I heard other female volleyball players defend those bikini bottoms, saying they're comfortable and that's what they prefer to play in. Now I don't know who to believe. Are they comfortable?" The should wear what them make comfortable. If bikinis make them comfortable, they can wear it
" or are they just one more thing that the evil male species has forced upon these women for their own enjoyment? I need a feminist to straighten me out. lol. " 😃 you are cringe. Try better. I swear you guys sounds like middleschool kids who hate feminism because everyone hates. I dont support feminism due to islam, hypocrisy, lack of expression, etc. but talking about it like that is cringe. I dont even talk like this to guys who admit they are incels
"Are all the women who support wearing things like that because it drives attention to their under-watched sports just slaves to the patriarchy or are they empowered? Can't have it both ways. " please troll somewherelse. They should wear what make them comfortable. Their Performance is more important than their outfits. There should be two options between traditional sport clothes and modern sport clothes to choose. The Norwegian volleyball team wear traditional sport shorts for example and not random shorts

[Dazed0N0Confused]

It doesn't matter what the other girls think, this is a team decision & they all agreed to the shorts.

[Candymtf]

I'm a girl, but tbh the longer shorts are cuter than the skimpy cheek peek bikini the others were wearing.

But the rules are the rules and they shouldn't just be refusing to wear what everyone else is if they want to play. That's just wrong. They should have waited until all the teams were allowed to switch.

[RolandCuthbert]

I don't think it is actually an issue of making women wear skimpy outfits. Some women might actually like wearing skimpy outfits. Other women may like to wear skimpy outfits sometimes and not at other times.

Again, these are issues of control.

Who gets to decide what women should wear? Who decides what is too little or too much skin? But the only people who can win back this control are women.

Good luck.

[Arcreactor81]

I think they're so freaking brave to go against the ''rules'' to do something that they like.

And I kind of feel disgusted by that ''rule'', I mean why wouldn't you let them be comfortable?

I swear, some people just want to go to these matches to look at the girls as if they're some fookin' piece of candy, or even worse, an IRON GOLEM.

[EnglishEuropean]

Come on this is beach volleyball. If they want to play indoor volleyball that is a separate event.

I don't come to your house to piss on the carpet.

[Dazed0N0Confused]

So, because they dont want to wear bikini bottoms they shouldn't play beach volleyball? Girls are playing beach volleyball in shorts all over the world too. Whatever makes them more comfortable.

By your logic, guys should all wear speedos to play beach volleyball & not swim trunks as well.

[Asker]

@EnglishEuropean then go fucking play in thongs by your logic. Male players also dont play in thongs

[EnglishEuropean]

Nor do women.