How technically weak is Israel Adesanya’s jab and framing hand motion?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

He telegraphs his Jab by a mile. He is so vulnerable to so many counters both by the UFC rules and by real-world fight science (banned in UFC rules).

For examples, when he telegraphs his jab, you can:

1) chop block the radius bone of that hand and break his arm. (Banned)

2) Catch and Joint lock. I like Front Wrist Lock, or Nikyo or any wrist lock really or elbow lock. I used to do this to second degree black belts even heavyweights, so I know how it works. This is doable in UFC rules, but the "no grabbing the gloves" rule makes it a bit harder to pull off effectively.

3) Pass his standing guard. His jab si so slow I can time it with a stop watch and literally pass his standing guard and take his back.

So he "frames" his jab hand constantly, which means you know the Jab is coming next when he stops framing with it. Duh. So it's literally both an "anticipation" thing and the fact that his jab is very slow to begin with, equals "Hah, I can time your jab and control the whole fight because of it."

That's partially how Sean Strickland beat Adesanya for Seans first title run. That and front kicks to control range and pace of the fight.

As for Sean Strickland, he fights a LOT like I used to fight 26 years ago, except I knew a couple hundred locks he doesn't know.

By the way, I ended up not fighting for Bayou Fighting Championship again, because the owner's assistant never contacted me back, so that means they either don't want me to fight or they didn't take me seriously, so fuck them too. I SHOULD have gone pro when I was 20 years old, but I guess I'll neve rbe able to prove myself in this life now, so it's a big regret.

Anyway, Adesanya may as well be an unskilled fighter. He sucks at boxing, and he has virtually no grappling skills at all.

[AI Opinion]

Adesanya’s jab and lead-hand frame look slow and obvious if you compare them to pure boxing, but in MMA they’re part of a much bigger kickboxing puzzle. His “telegraph” often doubles as a feint to cue low kicks, body kicks and counters, not just a linear jab.

The limb-destruction, wrist-locks and guard passes you mention are legit concepts in traditional / self‑defense contexts, but far harder at Adesanya’s range, with 4oz gloves, high pace, feints, and kicks constantly threatening. If his jab and framing were truly that exploitable, high‑level opponents with full camps would be chewing him up every fight. Strickland’s success came more from constant pressure, volume, defensive shell and denying Izzy space to set traps than from those kinds of joint‑lock counters.

He’s not a perfect boxer and his grappling is limited compared with elite wrestlers, but calling him unskilled ignores years of high‑level kickboxing and multiple world‑title wins in the most competitive era of middleweight MMA.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The way to beat Adesanya for most fighters who don't know JJJ locks is to concentrate on throwing straight punches and straight kicks and step in and jam Adesanya's roundhouse kicks at the fulcrum with one hand, and deliver an elbow to the body or head with the other arm. Adesanya likes throwing 30 to 50 roundhouse kicks per fight round, so you should throw 30 straight kicks back at him and 30 straight punches or 30 jam and elbow combos.

I used to fight real 2nd Dan black belts, including also a Brown belt who was much taller than me, and one way to beat someone who is bigger or taller is to jam their roundhouse. It' sactually pretty easy to do once you practice it a bit.

The reason Adesanya is getting beaten nearly every fight lately is because people have figured him out. He never adapts and his hard headed and egotistical.