Currently, Internet standards leave "live" Internet music collaboration platforms limiting players to having to jam out with a full musical measure delay from each other. As the forecast 6G standard would in theory allow actual practically truly live collaboration, hearing each other at just a thousandth of a second after the fact, one side of the planet to another, at such a time or thereafter, could Earth to moon and back musical collaboration be fast enough to adopt the current terrestrial musical measure delayed mode? Could moon station residents actually jam out with those on Earth as Earthbound ones do, time delayed, with each other now?
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An Internet post on a search engine page claims Earth is about thirty Earth-widths away from the moon on average, which is maybe about twenty times as long as a satellite grid would be from one side of the Earth to the opposite location in such a grid. But if distance itself was not an issue, how could the relays from the Earth to the moon be kept practically in place from here to there? Even so, it'd still be like a twenty millisecond delay--not quick enough for perceptually live interchange.
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A NASA post claims a laser averages 2.5 seconds Earth to moon back to Earth.
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I have no idea what you are talking about but it takes a little over a second for light to reach the moon and several 1/1000th seconds delay will not change that much.
More than 3 milliseconds delay and it tends to start throwing some musicians. Eleven milliseconds is like the outside limit, it seems.
If you're wondering, jammr. net is a linux and Windows music collaboration platform. Apple has their own.
As far as the quantum satellite relays, some people have found already that it is possible to link light particles held five miles apart (at one point in history not too far back), in such a way that allows communication via the link between the two at a far faster rate than light travels, itself. Such telecom is called quantum because it utilizes quantum physics, the sub-sub-atomic particle physics. So if you put a grid of five mile quantum runs, linked by laser circuits or some such in each relay to hook up two photons each linked (quantum entangled) to another photon in opposite directions, and so on along a circuit, the thinking with me had been that this would permit this 6G the tech websites are forecasting. Unfortunately, with some nations already keeping all of society under a microscope, and many other nations rapidly approaching such a way, it could soon be doable for people on one side of the planet to have a millisecond delayed movie on their livingroom wallpaper, of a map of yours or my gut bacteria diversity, or some people's real-time thoughts and emotions as detected in a real-time functional MRI of the brain (already being done), well on the other side of the planet, and to respond back individually or en mass to affect the situation of the person being analyzed (or even an AI circuit could be utilized, capable of responding far faster than the person being affected could have a chance to begin to respond). Human ethics being highly diverse worldwide, it could become a very difficult world to live in at least some times in some places for some people.
I have no idea what quantum is but I doubt things travel faster than light. However, I read that after 1 second post-big bang, our current observable was universe was 17 light years in diameter. That seems impossible too. Anyway, it sound like fantasy to me.
As for the online live-ish music collaboration apps, the ones geared toward Apple devices seem to be AcapellaApp and Jamkazam. For other devices, ninjam-js is web based, and jammr for standalone use on linux or Windows.
no, there is nothing identifiable traveling between the quantum entangled particles, yet the change which takes place over miles of distance, is much faster than it would take for light to travel that far. It seems that there is some other dimension in which this connection is held together besides the three dimensional space between the particles. It sounds like sci fi, but the basic presumptions of the physical world have been found not to apply in quantum physics.
@lautistnaturist Not that is possible for me understand, even if you can explain it, then (assuming it is true that the universe was 17 light years in diameter, one second post big bang) how could that be true unless during that 1 second matter traveled a half billion times faster than light.
that part's unknown to me, in current state of recollection with me now. In recent times for me, the only seemingly reliable point of reference relative to this is that someone specified on another forum that the current total spatial diameter of the volume occupied by all current perceivable matter is such, relative to the size of a sub-sub-atomic particle called a quark, which is essentially the gear in the wristwatch of quantum physics, can each be described, both, by a decimal fraction fifty digits long. So, maybe if 1 was the size of everything measurable now, a decimal point with 48 zeros and then a 1 at the end, would still be enough range to describe both something that small and something that big. Black holes are weird, too, in that matter in one can seem to occupy less space than it would out of one. Then there's the old saying that matter nor energy can be created nor destroyed but only converted one form to another. Still, x-ray radiation constantly emanates from black hole poles and they seem to be constantly scooping up and packing in more matter. Maybe it has something to do with the wave-particle duality of nature that makes for light being both waves and particles. The world we live in and are comprised of does have its quirky sides, for sure. According to some pop magazine periodical or something, someone proved once mathematically with laws of quantum physics that something the size of a volkswagen would every so seldom as to be perceived for us practically as "just once," melt through something the size of a garage wall, and each be unaffected, but present on opposite sides of each other than they had started. There are things on record such as seas splitting with dry land where the water had been, and billowing fiery clouds speaking with booming voices to crowds of people with such magnitude as to be terrifying, yet plainly real. Best to Love as a rule and stay hopefully optimistic any chance we can, seems to me.
Someone referred me to another online time-delayed live music collaborative performance app that seems geared to all three of the main desktop OSs: jamulus dot io