Can we all agree we were lied to when we were told Hunter's laptop was planted by the Russian's and the Steele dossier was real?

[Anonymous]

[MisterWack]

Yeah especially since Fox News promised to show the evidence on Election Night after everyone cast their vote for Trump, I voted Biden (former Trump supporter) and tuned in… Nothing. I see why they lost $787.5 million to defamation (settlement by the way)
All lies!

Hunter Biden’s laptop was snatched up and shown off by Republican think tanks however never showed proof that was allegedly on the laptop’s hard drive proving collusion with Russians however Trump’s own campaign manager was linked to accepting Russian money then putting it into Trump’s campaign for presidency 2020.

[MrOracle]

The FBI just admitted in open court last week that the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden, and that they've been in possession of it and had authenticated it since before the Russia story was released - even though they supported the Russia story in the press at the time. (The information came from the copy of the hard drive that the repair shop owner made before turning it in to the FBI.)

That whole story was fabricated, and the FBI confirmed it and admitted to lying about it previously. What does it take for you to realize you're being played?

[MisterWack]

@MrOracle
Exactly! The whole story is a lie & a complete fabrication. It is crazy that people still buy that sh*t. Back in 2020, I actually told people in comment sections “it is just Hillary Clinton’s email server BS again”. There was even a clip of Trump messing up confusing the two using them universally, if your cult leader doesn’t keep track of which story is which…. Probably not a good sign.

Thank you for your honesty & accuracy MrOracle, always hitting it on the nose.

[DrPepper12]

@MrOracle where this link to fbi verification?

[DrPepper12]

The Steele dossier was real. It exists. If you mean authentic then yes, 70% of it has been corroborated as accurate and factual. In fact, this March Trump was ordered to pay a six-figure legal bill to the company founded by a former British spy that he unsuccessfully sued for making what his lawyer called “shocking and scandalous” false claims that harmed his reputation.

Yeah, so there's that. 🙄

[Asker]

Can you enlighten me as to what was verified?

[Asker]

Trump was part of a "defamation" lawsuit, it in no way, shape or form has anything to do with verification of the dossier. It's literally impossible for a public person to win such lawsuit, even when it's proven to be lied.🙄

[MrOracle]

Yeah - it's the 30% that was pure fabrication that's the issue. Who cares if it was padded by 70% truths. Try to imagine the damage I could do to YOUR life if I wrote 70% true things about you and then added 30% of the worst things imaginable - and then tried to defend it as being 70% true!

A document is either true or it's false. Being 70% true means it's 30% false, which means none of it can be believed. Where are your standards?

[DrPepper12]

@MrOracle it's a dossier, not a autobiography. Ya know, sections, bullet points, page breaks...

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[DrPepper12]

The dossier's broad assertion that Russia conducted a campaign to interfere in the 2016 U. S. election to help Trump and hurt Clinton has been corroborated by U. S. intelligence agencies.
Some specific details in the dossier, such as meetings between Trump campaign officials and Russian operatives, have been independently corroborated or partially matched public accounts.

However, many salacious claims, like the "golden showers" allegation, remain unverified. The Mueller Report assessed that part as only 50% likely to be true.
The FBI found that some allegations were inaccurate or inconsistent with other evidence they gathered. Only limited information like dates, locations, and titles could be corroborated.
Former intelligence officials urged caution, saying parts were credible enough to investigate further, while other aspects seemed questionable.
Estimates vary, but British and American intelligence agencies estimated 70-90% was accurate, while the Senate concluded the FBI's efforts to verify it lacked rigor.

[Juxtapose]

Yeah dude you're bringing shit in front of us that's 30% compromised so we can't tell what is true and what is not. Come back with something real next time.

[Asker]

As you said, most of what was verified to be true or partially true, was already known and had very little to do with Trump or his campaign.

[DrPepper12]

@Juxtapose its raw inteligence not a peer vetted journal!!

[Juxtapose]

It's bullshit.

[DrPepper12]

@Juxtapose like BK says, have it your way...

[Anonymous]

Are you concerned about trademark infringement? Only Trump can lie pathologically and make up conspiracy theories about everything?

[Asker]

Can you give me an answer?

[BetaBucks]

Everything is a lie when it comes to politics and politicians. Don't invest your emotions into any of it.

[normalice]

Nope, since a republican led senate investigation concluded that we were not lied to in this regard.

[Asker]

Ah, the right wing nut job, pretending to be a left wing nut job. Please, go play somewhere else.

[normalice]

Nah, calling you ragetards on your bullshit is the only thing I can do to guard democracy from the toilet. So, I stay.

[Asker]

What bullshit?

[normalice]

Your question. We weren't lied to. Implying that we were is bullshit and I'm happy to call you on it.

[Asker]

So you're saying the laptop is Russian disinformation? And the Steele dossier was verified?

[normalice]

That has been confirmed by the senate intelligence committee when it was ran by republicans, yes.

[Asker]

Well, then Hunter's conviction will be thrown out of court and I expect charges against prosecutor's and the presiding judge. I also expect Trump to be charged with conspiring with Russia and Mueller to be brought up on charges. This is huge news!

[normalice]

More bullshit.

[Asker]

Goddamn, I need people with intelligence to join this site.

[normalice]

It would be wasted on you.

[Asker]

😂😂😂

[normalice]

🤣🤣🤣

[normalice]

Aw. I was going to take the time to find it until you let your ragetard bias show with that last sentence. Ah well.

[Wallythewalrus2]

In other words, you lied? Just say it! You can't provide a link.

[normalice]

Nope, just not going to waste my time for a ragetard who has already made up their mind.

[Asker]

You can leave me a link.

[normalice]

I already explained I'm not interested in wasting time for ragetards who have already made up their mind. Maybe don't show your hand so early next time.

[Asker]

It's really disappointing how much you lie on here. Maybe next time, think before you spew bullshit you can't back up. It's really simple.

[normalice]

But because of your brain damage you enjoy being lied to so if you are disappointed the obviously this isn't a lie.

[Asker]

🤣🤣🤣 No clue what you just wrote! I do know you do have mental problems, you've talked about it on here before. I don't make light of that, it's obvious you have problems, so I won't pick on you anymore. Liar!

[normalice]

Yeah, considering your brain damage I'm not too surprised that exceeded your reading comprehension abilities 😅

[Asker]

I love and pray for you, my friend. I do hope you are still getting help for your psychological problems. Remember, the ones that don't ask for help, are the weak ones.

[normalice]

No you don't. You just want christian nationalism and know you have to lie to get it.

[Asker]

That's just your psychosis talking! I take nothing you say serious. Nothing you say will keep me from loving you and praying for you. You may hate yourself and your life but God and I love you!

[normalice]

I suppose you can fill your troll farm quote with that gibberish but I hope you don't imagine you are fooling anyone 😅

[Asker]

I wish I was there to hold you and let you cry on my shoulder. I can't say I know what it's like to hate one's self but I can understand your pain. I love you! ❤️

[Asker]

I love you! I know you're hurt. Your turn.

[normalice]

Cute but I'm still not going to give you my credit card number 😅

[Asker]

I love you. Your turn.

[normalice]

I haven't seen a Russia troll try this angle since 2016. I genuinely thought putin had already marched you all off to rape Ukrainian kids. Or are you finished with your sevice?

[Asker]

You really are insane but I still love you! 🥰 Your turn.

[normalice]

I've heard what your love means to Ukraine kids and would rather not have it. Thanks though.

[normalice]

I'm not the one who got into a whole war just to rape some Ukrainian kids 🤷

[Asker]

I don't really know or want to know what you're into but I will say, you are the only person that brought up raping Ukrainian kids. I haven't said anything about it! You're really struggling with some serious issues. Your turn.

[Asker]

Your conversation with the voices in your head has turned real dark! You need my prayers more than ever!

[normalice]

You're not fooling anyone. At any point you people could put an end to Putin and thereby out an end to the child rape. But you won't because you enjoy it.

[Asker]

Let me guess, your family never leaves you alone with their children? Am I right? Your turn.

[normalice]

I understand you people use projection to make yourselves feel better about all the child rape but we know your whole country is garbage.

[Asker]

🥱 boring! Your turn

[Asker]

Now you're just doubling down on your fantasies. YOU are the only one talking about it and you're now trying to divert the attention on me, a classic sign of mental illness. Your obsession with getting the last word in to continue that diversion, is only making you look even sicker but that is another sign of mental illness, people that suffer from it just don't know when to keep quiet.

[Asker]

You need to come up with your own material a long with new material. You've become boring and redundant but that is consistent with people that have very low IQ's.

[Asker]

Again, get new material!

[normalice]

Your translator must be busted. I just said I don't do that for you worthless animals.

[Asker]

New material! You're boring me. Your lack of intellect is showing. I have an idea, prove me wrong and leave a link showing the committee, led by Republicans, said the Steele dossier was verified and Hunter's laptop was proven to be Russian disinformation. Come on, make me look foolish!

[Asker]

Again, I'm not going to be apart of your sick fantasies. The rest of your ramblings, as usual, are incoherent. I'll give you until tomorrow, to prove you're a liar.

[Wallythewalrus2]

Anonymous, @normalice continuously lies on here and does the same thing when he's caught. He goes off subject, in an attempt to divert attention from his lie but I've never seen him go to such a dark place before. Yes, he has talked about his mental health issues on here and I support him when it comes to that, it can't be fun for him and those around him dealing with it but I didn't know pedophilia was one of his issues. It's frightening how he is apparently obsessed with raping children! I also pray he gets or is currently getting the help he needs. Yes, I know, I'm prepared for him to project his fantasies on to me but that just shows how sick and twisted he really is.

[normalice]

Nope, I just treat you entertainment gluttons who can't process any information unless it's putting someone down the only way you can hear - by telling the truth about you as meanly as I can come up with on the spot. The promise of child rape is the main reason Russia could be convinced to invade Ukraine. That is a fact. The asker is a Russian troll. Also a fact. I prefer not to sugar coat my words, that's all..

[Wallythewalrus2]

It's a FACT the asker is a Russian troll? You are crazy! Also, you haven't given anyone any information to process! We asked for information to process and you suddenly jumped into your sexual fantasies about raping children. You are so predictable, that you have become boring. Just say you lied or show a link. Stop with your disgusting rants, they only make you look foolish and demented.

[normalice]

He hasn't even bothered to deny it despite ample opportunity. I don't put work into digging up information for rage junkies who aren't interested in being convinced anyway.

[Wallythewalrus2]

Um, he actually said he doesn't want to be a part of you sick and twisted fantasies of raping children. Quit using excuses, it makes you look weak! "Um, duh, I don't put, duh, work into, um,..." All that says, is you lied, which you continually do on here. You're pathological. Leave a link. You'll make the Russian troll and me look foolish! 😂

[normalice]

It is the cost of arguing in bad faith that you get dismissed. If you don't like stop doing it 🤷

[Wallythewalrus2]

You make absolutely no sense and you're projecting your behavior onto other's! You are the only one ranting and name calling and started as soon as you were caught in a lie! You've been given every opportunity to leave a link but obviously you can't, because there isn't one. Each time you're asked to leave a link, you predictably double down on your nonsense! Then you, as always, feel the need to get the last word in, because you think that will help you, as the asker said, "save face", and somehow make you believable and not the liar you just admitted to being. You are so easy to humiliate! 🤣🤣

[normalice]

Well, to be fair I stopped reading anything you have to saynpassed the first few words so if it sounds like I'm not responding to you ragetards it because I'm largely not. I'm just repeatedly illustrating and now directly pointing out that it doesn't pay to openly argue in bad faith.

[Wallythewalrus2]

No, you're are just showing your narcissism by trying as hard as you can to not be wrong! You're a liar, plain and simple. You have admitted as much. To cover that FACT, you have to pretend you aren't, by saying everyone is "arguing in bad faith", so you're not gonna prove that you're not a liar lol. Under that scenario, you're also a coward.

[normalice]

Yes. At this point I'm just amused at how worked up you get when you are treated with your own bad faith behavior.

[Wallythewalrus2]

That's the thing, I'm laughing at you! lol You are the only one that has name called, brought up pedophilia, rambled incoherently, then suddenly projected that behavior onto others, just because you've been made to look foolish! I mean, I get it, no one wants to admit to being caught in a lie but most people stop making ridiculous excuses after awhile in an effort to cover it, especially when it makes them look really dumb.

[normalice]

It's none of my business what retarded people laugh at, lol. But good job sharing!

[Wallythewalrus2]

It's also funny, that you were on here ALL day yesterday and as soon as I commented early this morning, you responded within a couple minutes! lol I'm guessing you haven't slept? You've been obsessed with saving your outstanding reputation? 😂😂😂

[Wallythewalrus2]

I should say, ALL day and NIGHT! 🙄

[normalice]

But again, I'm not reading any of that. I'm sure you put a lot of work into it but it's just not my problem 🤷

[Wallythewalrus2]

Incoherent ramblings. Yeah, I put a ton of work into writing a paragraph. 😉

[normalice]

Thats fine. Reading comprehension would have spared you that effort, tho.

[Asker]

Well, I've given you over twenty four hours to leave a link but of course you haven't, because one doesn't exist. You have now admitted to lying. I really have to wonder where you get your information, from the voices in your head?

[normalice]

I told you already I don't believe you Russian child rapists are capable of processing new information so why waste time looking it up for you?

[Asker]

No, you admitted to lying! Plain and simple. You can play this childish game of, "I know you are but what am I" but the fact remains, you clearly admitted to lying.

[Asker]

You disappeared for a few minutes. Must have been time for meds. 🤣🤣🤣 As a figured, just another parasite of society.

[Laciejordan]

I'm guessing after all this, it isn't true at all, as far as the Republicans verifying the contents of the dossier and them also confirming the laptop was Russian disinformation? Who would be dumb enough to believe that, is one question, and who would be dumb enough to actually post it, as if it were true? Then, to top it off, they start rattling on about raping kids! Jesus Christ!

[Laciejordan]

After reading your comments, you do need help! And the asker is right, you need new material. Your repetitive nonsense, just to get the last word in, are obvious! Goodbye, FREAK!

[Asker]

I see you suffer from paranoia also! 🤣🤣 You really don't have a life, do you?

[normalice]

I'm just used to how you child raping Russian trolls operate is all.

[MK1997]

@Wallythewalrus2 @laciejordan
He @normalice told me In private he supports middle aged woman approaching little boys for sex because they will enjoy it he says.

I told them the women would be taking advantage of them and he threw a tantrum at me and went apeshit.

He is definitely sick and twisted! And SEXIST among all!

[Wallythewalrus2]

@MK1997 I 100% believe you. I actually had another member tell me that, at first I thought it was you but I looked and it wasn't. I think his twisted posts on here speak for themselves. I just don't even wanna get involved in it! I think the Asker should think twice also.

[Asker]

I think the pedophile is getting upset! 😞 His rants are becoming less and less coherent. lol lol ha ha I just hope I don't drive you to harming anyone. I would feel terrible.

[normalice]

I probably should apologize for giving the impression I was interested in what some Russian child rapist thinks. I earnestly did not mean to.

[Drewtate]

He gets off with a slap on the wrist. Imagine banging your brother's widow and introducing her to crack.

[Juxtapose]

Even the ones defending it say only 70% of the dossier was real.

Imagine if I could freely defame you by having 70% of whatever I write be true and the other 30% is the worst things you can imagine.

[OddBeMe]

As a lefty news hound I don't remember hearing either of those being said were true. The Russia hoax wasn't a hoax. 12 people went to jail. And most right wing commentators are paid by Russian cutouts.

[ProbablyClueless]

Everyone capable of critical thought would agree with that!

Unfortunately, a lot of people on here aren't capable of critical thought.

[In_Trance]

Stop..

[Dongie]

Does it really matter. Nobody is going to get indicted unless big boy gets in safely.

[Anonymous]

Nah--we don't talk about that anymore. We're moving on!

[Asker]

So far, two opinions but no answers.

[Opinion Owner]

Of COURSE it was a lie man! lol!

[FunkyMonkee]

You didn't know that from the very start?

[exitseven]

There was never any doubt.

[jahaims]

Both sides of the government always lie. Duh