With young White girls being targeted by racist Pakistani rape gangs all over England why is there silence from the #METOO movement? (Page 2)
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Isn't #metoo a thing where victims of sexual assault/harassment post their stories online? You make it sound like it's an advocacy group that actively goes out and champions women's rights. That's not the case. Or am I incorrect?
You are 100% correct. It is not the job of Feminists to force victims of rape to step forward into the public spot light. That would be cruel to say the least.
Sorry is it not the job of so called feminists to speak out against the mass gang rape of young white girls or does it only matter when it's the victim is a minority or a middle class feminist?
Those people have already gone to jail. What more is there to say about it without wasting time you could have spent on the remaining issues?
@Soteris some of those people have gone to jail, there's still more to go.
All the ones we know of have gone to jail. Job well done, lets get back to the bigger picture which is oh so much bigger.
@Soteris the bigger picture is the gang rapes that are happening right now, rather than pretending it all went away with a few convictions and a pat on the back job done.
First off, I want to point out that you lifted the text of your question from this article, verbatim.
blogs.spectator.co.uk/.../
Secondly, Feminist groups, just like all political and activist groups, all have slightly different agendas. It's not the mission of #metoo to publicize things like this.
Third, I agree. Feminist groups are oddly silent about this case (despite the fact that the whistleblower who called attention to all of this is a self-described Feminist). The folks over at Reddit seem to think it's due to the fact that when Feminists *do* bring attention to this, the Right turns it into a case of "all brown people are pedophiles/rapists/criminals", and that doesn't help anybody.
So why is it not the mission of #METOO to publicise things like this, is it because the victims are young vulnerable working class white girls bring preyed upon by Pakistani men?
Well that's not their mission. It's like asking why chemical engineers don't build bridges. They're engineers, aren't they?
So #METOO is only for college educated women with wealthy parents who's boss made a sexist remark?
I'm not really sure how that's what you got out of what I said. Not what I'm saying _at_all_.
Hey the way I see it is if you are going to immigrate to this country it's one thing to bring your customs but it's another thing if your Customs involved murder. People are moving into our country from other places so they should accommodate themselves to our way of life for the most part, because I know if I moved to another country like across Seas or South America I would not expect 2 has everyone be okay with the way I act. No that's just not the way it is I would have to assimilate myself into their culture learn their language, but it's extra bag when people's customs are excuse me for saying this but they are downright medieval there is no excuse to bring that to a modern country.
The biggest problem with this is the girls involved. A lot excare girls even some escape the care home to get s better life. . They only come forward when things go pear shaped. I agree it needs to be stopped but a lot of the time the police hands are tied...
You're asking something you already know the answer to. #metoo was never about protecting women. It's about weaponizing rape allegations so white women can gain more power in government and hollywood.
This is such an interesting and informative post. I had never heard of grooming gangs and sexual trafficking of minors in the U. S. is barely on the radar with all of the other stupid political issues that keep getting forced to the top of our news cycles. Thanks for bringing this up.
#MeToo has been co-opted and integrated into feminism , which is itself a sub branch of Cultural Marxism. White Europeans , esp the males , are responsible for all the ills of the world... and must be destroyed !!
I hate that kind of fake demands for respect or claims of bigotry.
Anyone, or any group that hurts folks needs to be publically called out, not to do with race, religion, culture, ethnicity, but for the behavior!!!
Vile bullshit.
Because it might be run by the left. Now if the right was involved. They would be all over it. Like flies on shit.
Because the MeToo 'movement' is a sham orchestrated by the (((oligarchy))), a weapon against men of power. Used to destablize, and demoralize, white countries.
Metoo is an American based movt. Nobody knows other country struggles
Not true. #METOO is global.
Metoo always was just a way to attack white men, and only them, which is what the modern feminism is.
The rest could do anything, they wouldn't be targeted, as feminists see them as victims.
I agree seems like anything a white man do is like a worldwide threat that needs to be addressed
Why exactly do you invite me to your horrible posts? You're clearly a white supremist who's doing nothing more than complaining about what's going on. You really want to help? Call the authorities, start a movement, create help groups, start female self defense classes, etc. Don't just sit around complaining about how white women have it bad because last time I checked complaining does nothing unless you're going to do something.
Trolls gonna troll.
Where the fuck are the white guys?
Tired of all these fag white guys letting their countries get over run, then they cry and bitch.
White girls are the prize for the conquering people.
Women will follow strength. These paki guys are stronger than the English men. So just get ready to be harrassed by brown guys your whole life, because white guys aren't gonna ever do anything about it. They are too busy jerking off to runaways who fuck strangers on camera for jewish money
Because the perpetrators where not white men. They ignored female perpetrators they ignore immigrant/migrant perpetrators because it hurts the narrative.
I originate from victorian britain and pakistan and I don't know what you mean? Was born in the UK and have never heard any of this? Even growing up through high school?
You've never heard of the Rotherham grooming gang? The Huddersfield grooming gang? The Rochdale grooming gang? Derby child sex abuse ring? Oxford child sex abuse ring? Telford child sexual exploitation scandal? Banbury child sex abuse ring? Bristol child sex abuse ring? Newcastle sex abuse ring? Halifax child sex abuse ring? Peterborough sex abuse case?
I've never heard of any of these lmfao? What's these rings doing? Right now everything is all about brexit brexit brexit.
Same lmao
Yeah, they were put in jail.
@MoscowMitch Who was?
Child sex rings.
@MoscowMitch Oh, so these are child sex rings? Weird because I was nearly kidnapped in high school at about 17 could have been one of them.
They are silent as far as I'm concerned. I've been hearing about it. However, I'm in America, and what takes place in America is more prominently reported and talked about.
the MeToo movement is for all the Hollywood prostitutes who agreed to sit on the casting couch.
Never heard this story could you post up some links so we can be informed about it?
she is clearly ignoring that lessons have been learned fro rotheram and rochdale and the cases are shut down but also proceedures been put in place to hopefully stop this happening again. she is famous for out of date headlining without considering whats behind the headline and whats happened since... maybe next week wi wil get a story about being overun by danes and having our village women being raped by them and how its all jeremy corbyns fault for not creating a time machine and building a wall all along the coast of norfolk and lincolshire in the late middle ages or thos fucking italians coming over her and building castles and straight roads and how labour just let it happen
@wankiam your not a woman who has to deal with the threat of rape everyday, you can't understand. The problem continues to this day despite the sparse number of convictions.
so vote labour and get the police back on the streets because if you think boris is going to do that you are mistaken
@wankiam this went on in cities with Labour councils and started during the Blair era. Pakistani labour mp Naz Shah believes the victims should shut up in the name of multiculturalism. More police won't help if they won't prosecute even when they have all the evidence.
Also Corbynites shut anyone down who raises the problem, like labour mp for Rotherham Sarah Champion who got forced out.
No wankiam I know this already I have seen her before post up information that was mostly incorrect and outdated in what seems to be attempts to cause fear
How is it outraged when it's happening right now? You think they threw a few in jail and all of a sudden the gang rapes stopped?
No off it didn't logicly stop but that you are saying one group is doing it is a lie you act as if all Pakistanis just left the country rape would no longer happen which again is silly again inform people the more people know the better we as a whole can deal with it but don't twist news stories and mix up dates and places if it's as rampant as you say use the stories that you know are happening
did i say its stopped? i thought i said mechanisms have been put in place to stop it happenig and since doing so we see that there is a rise in violence from far right groups which fortunately are being tackled by the same law
Rape is a pretty bad thing to happen to any young girl but I dare say bein raped by up to 20 different men on multiple occasions is much much worse.
Britain is a multicultural soceity and yet it's not the Indians, Jamaicans, Africans, Jamaicans, eastern Europeans, arabs or others that are prowling the streets looking to gang rape young white girls.
did any of us condone rape or gang rape? i must have missed that
@wankiam by dismissing the reality of it you are condoning it.
i didn't do that but since you are a professional site troll i do struggle with your deflection techniques... you ever thought about addressing things people actually say instead or are you just here to troll and nothing else?
Lol so every other racial group rape but not the British sure thing
and lets not get started on the seventies lol
Oh no we can't speak about that or the still developing cases of rapes connected to the Catholic church but no it's just the coloured people
indeed... now i see we have a double troll situation as russian bot guy joins in lol
Do you really think he is a bot
he says he isn't lol but these things go the same way... never answering a direct question but going off on a tangent with further rhetoric and vitriol
The Catholic church has over 1billion people, it's not all white people. It's growing hugely in Africa and Asia, then of course there's central and South America.
Point is by dismissing what is happening to young white girls in Britain right now in the present simply because the perpetrators are non-white muslims you are indeed condoning rape.
But I never at any point dismissed what you said simply asked you to provide proof when you post this stuff to which you have a issue doing
are you seeing the deflection technique now that i mentioned before?
Yeah I see what u mean
@wankiam stating facts is a deflection technique? I'd say calling someone a troll or bot because you don't want to believe what a person is telling you is a deflection technique.
so why when someone gives you figures or a counter point do you insist on going off on a tangent... it was clear what bb was saying about the catholic church and the issues its had in Ireland for example but you started going on about africa like it was somehow rellavent
@wankiam Ireland is not England. Also the same thing went on everywhere with the Catholic church not just Ireland. Many Catholic priests were abused in manouth. The Catholic church in Spain was stealing babies and selling them to wealth American countries.
Ireland is not part of England no?
so are the Spanish black? if not you are just proving my point
No Ireland is not England. Like I said the Catholic church is a global organisation. Are you saying that all Hispainics are white?
Ah seems I'm the fool it's not lol even if we disregard the churches crimes how can you disregard cases like Jimmy savel and the amount off effort by the law to cover it up
Jimmy Savel was a celebrity just like Bill Cosby or Micheal Jackson or R Kelly. Why the Jimmy Savel thing was covered up is an important question but then again labour counsellors covered up thousands of gang rapes in Rotherham alone for years.
Also disregard the church crimes? The Catholic church crimes in central America, South America, Africa and Asia haven't even been touched on. Maybe it doesn't matter to some when the victims and priests aren't European or American
@wankiam The funny thing is there were instances of the police arresting fathers who were trying to get their girls back from the rape gangs.
Half the point of the scandal is the police knew what was happening and didn't do anything.
But a typical lefty thinking the solution is to bolster a government that already doesn't do jack shit.
@Celtero if you read my other posts i quite clearly stated that it was wrong and lessons have been learned and laws changed and more regulation of local authorities employed since these cases came to light... no one on the left condones any of the actions of the gangs or the authorities handling of the situation i can assure you
@wankiam... yet it still continues
where? im not asking to be obtuse... i would genuinely like to know where this is still carrying on and why if you have knowledge of it you haven't been to the police who are now under orders to be proactive in this area. you know just like they are with sex trafficking of eastern europeans etc
@wankiam Uh huh, though I suspect if I suggested they get deported instead of sitting in prison with 3 hots and a cot by the teet of the taxpayer then I'd be called racist by you and your ilk.
@Celtero deported to where though... they are second or third generation and so are British citizens only. the law is quite firm on this sorry, nothing to do with marxism
Wait as long as they are not born British citizens that would not be a issue But you can't depart someone that's born here because where would you deport them too lol
@Celtero youalso seem to be ignoring the fact its the tory government that have cut police numbers by half over the last ten years so whilst many of these cases are indeed over historic abuse its also a big challenge to police them today... the same reason we se a rise in reported rape but less prosecutions. either that or women are lying more but you can argue that with yourself... i just want to address the fact you and the asker only want to blame the left for this.
@wankiam same reason knife crime has gone up cuts the youth centres and programs whilst cuts to police so less cops on the streets
@wankiam this has been an on going problem since before the Tories were in power, all the town's and cities this happens in have labour councils. What's the use in more police if they are told to ignore in because they don't want to look racist? What's the use when the police actually arrested fathers trying to get their children back from these rape gangs?
Where or when has any police been told not to make arrests when they have evedance against them now that will be somthing interesting to read
@asker i just addressed that in my previous comment. you need to read more
The police had shown a lack of respect for the victims in the early 2000s, according to the report, deeming them "undesirables" unworthy of police protection. The concerns of Jayne Senior, the former youth worker, were met with "indifference and scorn". Because most of the perpetrators were of Pakistani heritage, several council staff described themselves as being nervous about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others, the report noted, "remembered clear direction from their managers" not to make such identification. The report noted the experience of Adele Weir, the Home Office researcher, who attempted to raise concerns about the abuse with senior police officers in 2002; she was told not to do so again, and was subsequently sidelined.
In one incident in March 2000, he and a local taxi driver—who later became a Rotherham councillor—are alleged to have arranged for Arshid Hussain, arguably the gang's ringleader, to hand a girl over to police at a petrol station "in exchange for immunity"
no one is disputing that... what we are saying is laws and regulation and attitudes have changed since then but now the more obvoius issue is the cuts to police numbers which is a tory thing so we need to get away from the he said/she said rhetoric and look at fixing that
@wankiam... yet it still goes on and anyone who calls it out is called racist.
no they aren't... we saw what hapened and learned from it...
@wankiam I don't really want to blame anybody for it, and in a way the British invited it upon themselves by creating a multicultural nation as a result of their imperialism, but it's amusing seeing the left's reaction.
They always go on about how terrible rape culture is, and how men need to quit participating in toxic masculinity, but suddenly it's non-whites victimizing white girls and they do their best to sweep it under the rug. They will never admit the harm that their identity politics create.
And even you should admit that politically correct culture fostered some of these horrors... when minorities become such a protected class that they can gang rape underage girls with impunity, or as I said before, in some cases even protected by the police while they carry out such atrocities.
@Celtero well im a lefty and i dont think that and neither do most of us... that woman was thrown out of the labour party for a far more complicated reason but just ignore me if you just want to be amused by headlines rather than having a real interest
@Celtero yet we've plenty of Indians and Muslims from different countries yet despite being the tiniest minority Pakistani men are the biggest problem.
This seems to be almost like the thing in India termed as love / sex jihad. Muslim men go after Hindu women for sex and love convert them and use them for life till they get old.
Because I guess that multiculturalism is more important than women's rights.